'You should have stayed at a big club'

[a stoner]

Winners medals tally.

 

LFC 1- El Traitor 0

 

Now fuck off.

[Guest San Don]

Winners medals tally.

 

LFC 1- El Traitor 0

 

Now fuck off.

 

Nice and succinct.

[a stoner]

Probably wouldn't have won it if he was still here.

[Guest San Don]

Probably wouldn't have won it if he was still here.

 

Nah. The King would have subbed him if he wasnt arsed.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

What next for Sad Nando? | Life's A Pitch

 

(anyone who works Patrick Bateman into a football report has my respect)

 

28Feb

What next for Sad Nando?

 

by Jim Campbell

 

Fernando Torres has now been a Chelsea player for a little over a year, and in 48 appearances he has scored just five goals. Prior to his £50million move from Liverpool his form was such that many Reds supporters were happy for the club to cash in, and his poor run of form has now lasted for around two years. He’s even been dropped from the Spain squad for the friendly against Venezuela, and aside from Gervinho’s head, this is the most baffling situation in football today.

 

Though Torres is clearly shorn of confidence and, seemingly, enthusiasm, the most galling thing is that he just looks so sad, as if he slinks off home after training to sit in his room and listen to The Smiths while writing poetry by candlelight.

 

There are many theories on why this has happened and I have a few myself. The first is simple: he’s dead. He looks like a sad ghost, he disappears a lot and often can’t connect with the ball properly as he’s not fully of this realm.

 

Another possibility is that the real Torres is injured and that this guy is an actor, playing him in a forthcoming movie and standing in to research the part. While the resemblance is striking – apart from the hair, they can’t get the colour quite right – the role has been miscast. Both Chelsea and the producers would have been better off going with an actor like Christian Bale, someone method. The man known as Patrick Batman (to me at least) would get so into character that he’d score a ton of goals and everyone would be happy.

 

I just don’t know – nobody does – so inexplicable is his chronic averageness, but what can be done to get him out of this melancholy lull? It seems that he’ll never be the player he was at Liverpool while at Chelsea, and not just for semantic reasons.

 

The beleaguered André Villas-Boas recently said that he won’t change Chelsea’s style to accommodate Sad Nando, but with the Portuguese manager’s tenure under threat, this also puts Torres’ future in limbo. Will a new man come in and get more out of him? If that doesn’t happen, will Roman Abramovich cut his losses and decide that his team can’t afford to waste any more time trying to make this failing relationship work; that they’d both be better off seeing other people?

 

Where would he go? Inter traditionally have more money than sense so can’t be counted out and Paris Saint-Germain also fit the bill, especially as Javier Pastore would be there to provide him with ammunition, but would Carlo Ancelotti be willing to gamble on him again?

 

His status has slipped so dramatically that a move to one of Spain’s big two seems unlikely, though Real Madrid may be tempted to sign him so they can play him solely against Atlético, dangling their former idol in front of them as a gloating expression of their toxic affluence. Málaga could afford him, and being a big, depressed fish in a small, rich pond may help his rehabilitation, but it’s a huge step down. There are obstacles at every turn. No wonder he’s sad.

 

His exclusion from the Spain squad is the clearest indication yet that, at 27, his career is in terminal decline. So far people have made excuses for him because he’s so well regarded, but the buck has to stop with Torres himself. He needs to take a look at himself and use his international blackball as motivation to work much harder or seriously consider making a fresh start away from England. It hasn’t been working for a long time, and with Chelsea facing their own troubles the choice may soon be out of his hands.

[navbasi]

He's cursed at club level. He was at Athleti all those years and he didn't win fuck all. He moves on and they immedidately win the Europa League.

 

He's at Liverpool and we win fuck all. He moves on and we immediately win the Carling Cup.

 

For some reason I would still have him back but only if he left his curse at Chelsea.

[Guest San Don]

What next for Sad Nando? | Life's A Pitch

 

(anyone who works Patrick Bateman into a football report has my respect)

 

28Feb

What next for Sad Nando?

 

by Jim Campbell

 

Fernando Torres has now been a Chelsea player for a little over a year, and in 48 appearances he has scored just five goals. Prior to his £50million move from Liverpool his form was such that many Reds supporters were happy for the club to cash in, and his poor run of form has now lasted for around two years. He’s even been dropped from the Spain squad for the friendly against Venezuela, and aside from Gervinho’s head, this is the most baffling situation in football today.

 

Though Torres is clearly shorn of confidence and, seemingly, enthusiasm, the most galling thing is that he just looks so sad, as if he slinks off home after training to sit in his room and listen to The Smiths while writing poetry by candlelight.

 

There are many theories on why this has happened and I have a few myself. The first is simple: he’s dead. He looks like a sad ghost, he disappears a lot and often can’t connect with the ball properly as he’s not fully of this realm.

 

Another possibility is that the real Torres is injured and that this guy is an actor, playing him in a forthcoming movie and standing in to research the part. While the resemblance is striking – apart from the hair, they can’t get the colour quite right – the role has been miscast. Both Chelsea and the producers would have been better off going with an actor like Christian Bale, someone method. The man known as Patrick Batman (to me at least) would get so into character that he’d score a ton of goals and everyone would be happy.

 

I just don’t know – nobody does – so inexplicable is his chronic averageness, but what can be done to get him out of this melancholy lull? It seems that he’ll never be the player he was at Liverpool while at Chelsea, and not just for semantic reasons.

 

The beleaguered André Villas-Boas recently said that he won’t change Chelsea’s style to accommodate Sad Nando, but with the Portuguese manager’s tenure under threat, this also puts Torres’ future in limbo. Will a new man come in and get more out of him? If that doesn’t happen, will Roman Abramovich cut his losses and decide that his team can’t afford to waste any more time trying to make this failing relationship work; that they’d both be better off seeing other people?

 

Where would he go? Inter traditionally have more money than sense so can’t be counted out and Paris Saint-Germain also fit the bill, especially as Javier Pastore would be there to provide him with ammunition, but would Carlo Ancelotti be willing to gamble on him again?

 

His status has slipped so dramatically that a move to one of Spain’s big two seems unlikely, though Real Madrid may be tempted to sign him so they can play him solely against Atlético, dangling their former idol in front of them as a gloating expression of their toxic affluence. Málaga could afford him, and being a big, depressed fish in a small, rich pond may help his rehabilitation, but it’s a huge step down. There are obstacles at every turn. No wonder he’s sad.

 

His exclusion from the Spain squad is the clearest indication yet that, at 27, his career is in terminal decline. So far people have made excuses for him because he’s so well regarded, but the buck has to stop with Torres himself. He needs to take a look at himself and use his international blackball as motivation to work much harder or seriously consider making a fresh start away from England. It hasn’t been working for a long time, and with Chelsea facing their own troubles the choice may soon be out of his hands.

 

Almost had a tear well up in my eyes there!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, not one bit!

[FrenchEyeGlass]

I used the hate the cunt, as recent as last month. But I realised that people make mistakes. Obviously leaving us was a grave one. Or was it?

 

Personally, I hope he discovers his form (whilst, Chelsea still lose obviously). He was a great footballer and a joy to watch, and thats something that theres not enough of.

 

I do think he cared about us/our club. I just think he cared about a winner's medal more. The way he left and a couple of soundbites after don't reflect well on him. But thinking back to the season we pushed for first, something that he helped us achieve, I cannot help but cease my vitriol towards him.

 

He had a very close bond with Benitez and signing Suarez (who wasn't widely recognised as world class at the time) or not, seeing our squad slowly disassembled must have stuck in his throat. Seeing a world class coach (one who had finally gotten the best out of him) leave made him feel that good faith and belief was no longer enough. Unlike us he is not a fan. He has a career. It is delusional to suggest he should have adopted blind faith.

 

A year on, he hasnt done much, but its not like we've done a whole lot either. Our team is largely uninspiring and we're struggling for fourth. We won a Carling Cup which, though commendable, is hardly admirable. As much as we sit here and laugh, I doubt he'll be thinking "Yeah, you're right. I should have stayed so I can play alongside Charlie Adam and Jordan Henderson." or "I wish I was at the club caught in the middle of that racism storm, that's totally what I care about".

 

At this very moment, he has a better chance of winning the Champions League than any of our players do. At 27 years old, 28 in a month, I think that is a very important factor.

 

All in all, I find this thread of collective "ha-ha's" a bit pathetic. Including the posts I contributed to it. Fuck him for leaving us but thats the devoted fan talking. The reasoned commentator would say it made sense. If any of us played for Inter and Juve came calling, I doubt we'd say no.

[Guest TK-421]

Ha-ha. He's shit.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

I'm not having a go at you as a person but most of what you wrote there is shite. Substitute Torres for Owen and it's the same scenario in most of the points you wrote.

 

I used the hate the cunt, as recent as last month. But I realised that people make mistakes. Obviously leaving us was a grave one. Or was it?

People do make mistakes, but leaving a team that was built around you is nothing less than deliberate. His mistake was the karma he is now experiencing.

 

Personally, I hope he discovers his form (whilst, Chelsea still lose obviously). He was a great footballer and a joy to watch, and thats something that theres not enough of.

 

I do think he cared about us/our club. I just think he cared about a winner's medal more.

 

Just like Owen. We should care more about our future than offering Nando a rehabilitation programme back at Anfield.

 

The way he left and a couple of soundbites after don't reflect well on him.

 

Just like Owen.

 

But thinking back to the season we pushed for first, something that he helped us achieve, I cannot help but cease my vitriol towards him.

 

Good, retain fond memories and block out reality.

 

Are you sure your vitriol isn't being tempered by how shit he is?

 

He had a very close bond with Benitez and signing Suarez (who wasn't widely recognised as world class at the time) or not, seeing our squad slowly disassembled must have stuck in his throat. Seeing a world class coach (one who had finally gotten the best out of him) leave made him feel that good faith and belief was no longer enough. Unlike us he is not a fan. He has a career. It is delusional to suggest he should have adopted blind faith.

 

Let him follow his career. Let us plan for the future and get better players in. We are not a fucking charity.

 

A year on, he hasnt done much, but its not like we've done a whole lot either. Our team is largely uninspiring and we're struggling for fourth. We won a Carling Cup which, though commendable, is hardly admirable.

 

FUCK RIGHT OFF.

 

As much as we sit here and laugh, I doubt he'll be thinking "Yeah, you're right. I should have stayed so I can play alongside Charlie Adam and Jordan Henderson." or "I wish I was at the club caught in the middle of that racism storm, that's totally what I care about".

 

Really? Fuck right off with that shit.

 

At this very moment, he has a better chance of winning the Champions League than any of our players do. At 27 years old, 28 in a month, I think that is a very important factor.

 

All in all, I find this thread of collective "ha-ha's" a bit pathetic. Including the posts I contributed to it. Fuck him for leaving us but thats the devoted fan talking. The reasoned commentator would say it made sense. If any of us played for Inter and Juve came calling, I doubt we'd say no.

 

As others have said: Ha ha, he's shit.

[MLB]

Even by the law of averages you would have thought he'd have had a few more goals by now. I wrote him off ages ago when a fair few people were still saying he would come good, but if I'm honest I still thought he would end the season with about 10 league goals or something like that. I can't recall a player ever having fallen so far so fast. Is there a striker with a worse goals-to-game ratio in the league right now? One who plays regularly, that is?

[Section_31]

You couldn't have written a better script really, if you'd have asked me when he fucked us over what I'd wish for him, it'd be that he'd score no goals, get dropped by Spain, and be laughed at in the street by small children.

[Randy Marsh]

I'd have him back in a heartbeat, and I bet he would crawl over broken glass back to Liverpool.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I'd like to shit on his breakfast. Everyone on here would absolutely hates him if was banging the goals in?

[Harry Squatter]

Even Evertonians pitied the fool when he played at Goodison the other week. Evertonians have abused Florent Sinama Pongolle, Traore, Titi Camara and Gregory Vignal yet they couldn't be arsed hating him.

[Jairzinho]

I'd have Pongolle back here.

[fowler9]

I'd have Pongolle back here.

 

I wanted him to stay at the time as I thought he could've had a future but he has gone right off the rails since leaving Recreativo

[WaltonRed]

Torres can lick my left nut

[Duff Man]

Boas was compaing him to Kezman earlier in the week. Way to boost his confidence there, André.

[Ted]

Sorry, but if you'd still have him back you need your fucking head testing. Aside from the fact he royally fucked us he's finished as a top level striker.

[Scousa Tomo]

and aside from Gervinho’s head, this is the most baffling situation in football today.

 

 

Quality.

[Duff Man]

Sorry, but if you'd still have him back you need your fucking head testing. Aside from the fact he royally fucked us he's finished as a top level striker.

 

It's beginning to look that way. Odd, really, as apparently he's fitter than ever. If it's all in his head then a change of club / country could be all it takes. It's painfully obvious Boas doesn't fancy him and nobody will be more aware of that than Torres which I'm sure is a big part of it.

[navbasi]

If it is all in his head then what better man manager than Kenny to get him firing again?

 

I wonder if Torres wanted to come back and Chelsea were willing to sell at a knock down price whether Kenny/Comolli would even be interested, I'm not so sure, I think that ship has sailed and we are moving on to bigger and better targets this summer.

[Duff Man]

I'm not sure he'd be interested in coming back to be honest. Similarly I doubt Kenny would want him back (I'm sure some ITK's alluded to Kenny being more than a little ticked off with him when he left). Italy, and quite possibly obscurity, beckons

[Unrighteous]

It'll be funny when Lukaku moves in front of Torres in the pecking order.