Keir Starmer

[The Guest]

1 minute ago, clockspeed said:

Welcome to 20 years of Tory rule. 

We’ve already had 40.

[ZonkoVille77]

 

[Bruce Spanner]

2 minutes ago, The Guest said:

We’ve already had 40.

This is just fucking stupid.

[Red Phoenix]

2 minutes ago, M_B said:

A political masterstroke from his point of view. Pins the blame on Corbyn and cements his position on the throne. If Corbyn leaves to form a new party, then Starmer wins again because the media will target Corbyn.

 

If Corbyn formed a new party Starmer would have zero chance of getting anwyhere near winning an election without some type of coalition. Would be great if that happened just to see him grovelling for help from Corbyn to get into number 10. Fuck him anyway, the trilateral cunt.

[Bjornebye]

17 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Jezbollah.

 

 

[M_B]

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If Corbyn formed a new party Starmer would have zero chance of getting anwyhere near winning an election without some type of coalition. Would be great if that happened just to see him grovelling for help from Corbyn to get into number 10. Fuck him anyway, the trilateral cunt.

Not with antisemitism associated with it. The media would ensure that it would die a slow death.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, ZonkoVille77 said:

 

Wow. Do they realise that Corbyn was in the party every single day that New Labour was in power? Every single day Blair was Prime Minister, Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell (elected in 1997), and Dianne Abbott were sitting in the same places they’re sitting now. It’s daft. It’s a reaction to a thing that has happened. 

[clockspeed]

2 minutes ago, The Guest said:

We’ve already had 40.

See what you did there very good.

 

I won't happen but surely voters will look at the younger cretins in the conservative party. Johnson will be viewed as a bumbling fool some of the JRM Wannabees are nothing short of evil in their thinking.

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If Corbyn formed a new party Starmer would have zero chance of getting anwyhere near winning an election without some type of coalition. Would be great if that happened just to see him grovelling for help from Corbyn to get into number 10. Fuck him anyway, the trilateral cunt.

Well if that’s the case, get it done. Corbyn made hardly any impact on politics whilst leader of the Labour Party and is now is the position to have people come grovelling to him - the big ol’ king making beaut - so why not just start a party and bring the world to its knees? 

[Kevin D]

This guy.

 

This is not my kind of guy.

[skend04]

Imagine the scenes if Corbyn had actually achieved something in the 40 odd years he's been an MP, like proposed and got acts on the statute book rather than just get a few youths at Glastonbury to sing his name whilst he got within 60 seats of Theresa May once. I'd be outraged at his treatment then. 

[Carvalho Diablo]

3 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Well if that’s the case, get it done. Corbyn made hardly any impact on politics whilst leader of the Labour Party and is now is the position to have people come grovelling to him - the big ol’ king making beaut - so why not just start a party and bring the world to its knees? 

His impact on young first time voters was very real, as was his impact upon disenchanted socialists numbed by the stark choice of right or hard right.

 

Very curious to see what happens to the votes of those people. Curious and saddened.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Carvalho Diablo said:

His impact on young first time voters was very real, as was his impact upon disenchanted socialists numbed by the stark choice of right or hard right.

 

Very curious to see what happens to the votes of those people. Curious and saddened.

They’ll be able to vote for Jezbollah. 

[Gnasher]

I dont think Corbyn will or should leave  the Labour party and why should he? The country may have rejected him and  he did the right thing by resigning from being leader but the Labour party voted for him by some margin.

[Kevin D]

58 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Glad I got out. Joke of a party now. 

 

I agree.

 

I voted for Labour in the last two general elections and I won't be doing that again.

[ZonkoVille77]

Keir Starmer, a man more Tory-like than Tony Blair could ever have wished to be. It's a no from me. But I will enjoy the collective orgasm of centrists on twitter and the MSM today, celebrating a phantom moral victory. 

[The Guest]

21 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

This is just fucking stupid.

I grew up on a council estate in Liverpool and I’m nearly paying the same as the higher rate of tax on a basic rate wage and I’m on of the lucky ones because I started uni before the top up fees were introduced.  I worked in a supermarket on £3.83 an hour because the minimum wage they introduced didn’t apply to me.  The country is a fucking mess because Tony fucking Blair sold the Labour Party and the country’s Crown Jewels.  New Labour are fucking right wing.  They’re even as corrupt as the tories are.  They’re the same people.  The idea that Blair and this version of Labour have been good for the UK is absolutely mental.

[skend04]

4 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

Keir Starmer, a man more Tory-like than Tony Blair could ever have wished to be. It's a no from me. But I will enjoy the collective orgasm of centrists on twitter and the MSM today, celebrating a phantom moral victory. 

Which of his manifesto policies are Tory-like?

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, The Guest said:

I grew up on a council estate in Liverpool and I’m nearly paying an the same as the higher rate of tax on a basic rate wage and I’m on of the lucky ones because I started uni before the top up fees were introduced.  I worked in a supermarket on £3.83 an hour because the minimum wage they introduced didn’t apply to me.  The country is a fucking mess because Tony fucking Blair sold the Labour Party and the country’s Crown Jewels.  New Labour are fucking right wing.  They’re even as corrupt as the tories are.  They’re the same people.  The idea that Blair and this version of Labour have been good for the UK is absolutely mental.

Yup, still stupid.

 

Keep screaming in to the void true believer, for you are the real voice of all the left.

[Captain Howdy]

23 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

This is just fucking stupid.

Aye, I see he talks about as much sense in politics as he does football.

[Red Phoenix]

2 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Well if that’s the case, get it done. Corbyn made hardly any impact on politics whilst leader of the Labour Party and is now is the position to have people come grovelling to him - the big ol’ king making beaut - so why not just start a party and bring the world to its knees? 

 

Corbyn said "the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media." So Starmer just kicked him out for stating a fact. If you want to pretend that was justified, fair enough. I can't blame Corbyn if he doesn't make a new party either after all of the shit he endured as Labour leader.

 

Corbyn made a big impact on politics as leader too which is obvious to millions of people. That's why he was attacked for years on end and it's also why he's now suspended. Another thing is also obvious though : if Corbyn created a party now and didn't give a fuck what the media said or did, Starmer would never be elected at the next election without some type of coalition. I think we all know that, even if some of us don't like to admit it.

[ZonkoVille77]

4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Which of his manifesto policies are Tory-like?

 

Who mentioned policies? I didn't. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, skend04 said:

Which his manifesto policies are Tory-like?

Scratch that. What has he ever said or done that is ‘more Tory than Tony Blair’. Is it his pledge to renationalise mail, rail, energy, and water? Probably not. Increasing the top rate of tax? No, probably not that either. Scrapping of benefit sanctions? No, that sounds like Corbyn, so probably not that one either. It would be nice to know why this guy is a Tory so I can finally see the light. 

[The Guest]

22 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If Corbyn formed a new party Starmer would have zero chance of getting anwyhere near winning an election without some type of coalition. Would be great if that happened just to see him grovelling for help from Corbyn to get into number 10. Fuck him anyway, the trilateral cunt.

I think the reality is if Corbyn set up a new party then it would split the left vote considerably and because of first past the post the tories would win by a landslide.  I think if you’re any Corbyn to make a new party you have to accept that’s the reality.  The hope is that in years to come the economically left wing people in this country of which there are many would eventually vote for the new party in enough numbers.  It’s depressing but not as depressing as watching the slow destruction of the country by the baton passing between the two right wing establishment parties pushing each other further and further right while the left which isn’t represented is continually blamed.

[Bruce Spanner]

Maybe The Messiah could call his new party something pithy like, I don’t know, ‘New Labour’?

 

Maybe pick a few nostalgia votes up.