The £16m pay off to Benitez.

[Captain]

I heard he wants the 16m in used 5'ers without consecutive serial numbers.

 

:laugh:

 

As for Rafa going, the only 'concrete' mentioning I've seen on the matter is that he is not resigning. I.e., they'll have to fire him.

 

Who knows, maybe Rafa's view is that it's payback time for those two cunts for the stunt they pulled on him last summer.

[zigackly]

 

"They can't afford to sack me".

[WaltonRed]

Can of worms that Zig...

[zigackly]

I know, I'm feeling evil.

[Captain]

I think you're too late, it's been done already today with that exact pic.

[TheHitman]

I think that belongs in exactly the same place as Simon's theory Hitman.

 

Was it Simon that suggested it, if so go Simon.

 

As a few people have suggested if the owners thought Rafa was doing such a poor job it is almost selfdefeating to keep him as he is the man in charge of running their "eight hundred million pound business"

[Guest PurpleNose]

They can't afford to sack me you handwashing freak.[/quoteIT]

 

 

 

You can get fucked as well.[/quoteIT]

 

 

You've found the money you say?[/quoteIT]

 

[zigackly]

I think you're too late, it's been done already today with that exact pic.

 

Ssssh, I was trying to get away with using it twice.

[zigackly]

Was it Simon that suggested it, if so go Simon.

 

No, Simon thinks Rafa has thrown the season to try to get sacked.

[Unrighteous]

No, Simon thinks Rafa has thrown the season to try to get sacked.

 

It sounds crazy, especially considering the source of the theory, but we literally were THAT bad.

[Red Mist]

We should have inserted a clause in his contract that would nullify such a big pay off for sacking him as a result of not qualifying for the CL. He should not continue to get rewarded for failure, even when sacked.

[Funkasy]

No, Simon thinks Rafa has thrown the season to try to get sacked.

 

if thats true, Gerrard is in on it and they will split the money.

[grazywalker]

Nobody knows , apart from Benitez, the board and the respected lawyers involved.

 

But are they Real Lawyers ?

[birkenhead]

If Parry can pull off a 4.3m raid on Anfield, why do some think its inconceivable for Rafa to get 16m or 11m after 1st July pay off if sacked?

[Delmar]

More pertinently, our experience with Hpoullier and now Benitez does suggest we give our managers too much leeway and make them bomb-proof. Showing loyalty is one (and highly commendable) thing, but making a manager unsackable for non-footballing reasons is another.

 

The manager would not be unsackable if the club was run professionally as the club could afford the even this clause, and to begin with the clause would not be like it is rumored to be.

 

Equally, the manager would not need a clause like that if the club was run professionally, as there would be more trust. There would, even if the club was run professionally, be a golden parachute. Zola apparently should get about 3m, what do you think guys like Mourinho would get?

[coop]

Ballague did an article a couple or so months ago saying that another team could buy Rafa out of his contract for £10m.

 

At the time and in all fairness i still do think that was an advertisment by Ballague on behalf of Rafa to let other teams know what the price at the time was to get hold of him.

 

Personally i think the club will come to some agreement with Rafa and the manager will leave to possibly become the AC Milan manager.

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see the club pay Rafa something in the region of £4m and AC Milan to pay likewise as a signing on fee.

[WaltonRed]

I hope you are right Coop

[Torvald Utne]

I heard he wants the 16m in used 5'ers without consecutive serial numbers.

 

I think you were trying to say non-sequential....your shit wouldn't fly in the movies.

 

 

(He's not going anywhere)

[Delmar]

Personally i think the club will come to some agreement with Rafa and the manager will leave to possibly become the AC Milan manager.

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see the club pay Rafa something in the region of £4m and AC Milan to pay likewise as a signing on fee.

 

Here's a man that speaks wise words. Many meetings with Broughton, Leonardo out, Sacchi connection, a team needing rebuilding. All we need is the ugly evil fascist dwarf to loosen the purse strings...

[Jose Jones]

Ballague did an article a couple or so months ago saying that another team could buy Rafa out of his contract for £10m.

 

At the time and in all fairness i still do think that was an advertisment by Ballague on behalf of Rafa to let other teams know what the price at the time was to get hold of him.

 

Personally i think the club will come to some agreement with Rafa and the manager will leave to possibly become the AC Milan manager.

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see the club pay Rafa something in the region of £4m and AC Milan to pay likewise as a signing on fee.

 

There's no way a club will pay a "transfer fee" for Rafa at the moment when it could be very likely that he gets sacked by the current owners, or the club gets bought and new owners bring a new manager in. It'd be a waste of money when you could wait a few weeks or a year and he'll be a free agent.

[JohnnyH]

There's no way a club will pay a "transfer fee" for Rafa at the moment when it could be very likely that he gets sacked by the current owners, or the club gets bought and new owners bring a new manager in. It'd be a waste of money when you could wait a few weeks or a year and he'll be a free agent.

 

What you need to remember is that Rafa is still hugely respected in the European game and is seen as one of the top managers out there. In Europe Liverpool Football Club is seen as a basket case that God himself couldn't make challenge and while a lot of Liverpool fans have a go at Rafa for the 86 points the season before last, it is seen as an achievement by a lot of fans in Italy that he was able to take our Soap-opera club to so close to the title. And of course, the 2 champiuons League finals, the semi-finals and his success with Valencia is also seen as proof of a very good manager. The season just gone outside of England is seen as a blip in another wise impressive career. Real fans voited himn as the man they want most to take over, and I bet you if Inter and AC Milan had a fans vote that Rafa would feature in the top 1 or 2 of that also. Why do you think Juve fought for 4 months to get him? And you can be damn sure the Milan clubs will have already contacted Rafas agent.

[redinoz]

 

"They can't afford to sack me".

 

Pretty sure he was more sinister in his delivery...

 

[lfc4eva99]

You mean like whn Houllier took the Lyon job the day after his pay off arrangement with us expired?

 

Didn't know this, can you elaborate further?

[WaltonRed]

What you need to remember is that Rafa is still hugely respected in the European game and is seen as one of the top managers out there. In Europe Liverpool Football Club is seen as a basket case that God himself couldn't make challenge and while a lot of Liverpool fans have a go at Rafa for the 86 points the season before last, it is seen as an achievement by a lot of fans in Italy that he was able to take our Soap-opera club to so close to the title. And of course, the 2 champiuons League finals, the semi-finals and his success with Valencia is also seen as proof of a very good manager. The season just gone outside of England is seen as a blip in another wise impressive career. Real fans voited himn as the man they want most to take over, and I bet you if Inter and AC Milan had a fans vote that Rafa would feature in the top 1 or 2 of that also. Why do you think Juve fought for 4 months to get him? And you can be damn sure the Milan clubs will have already contacted Rafas agent.

 

there is a hell of a lot wrong in there and i'm not even going to attempt to decipher it.

[JohnnyH]

there is a hell of a lot wrong in there and i'm not even going to attempt to decipher it.

 

My main, and pretty much only point, is that Benitez is still hugely respected in Europe and teams will want him as their manager and would be willing to pay.

 

You disagree with that?