BBC headline: DIC to bid for whole club

[TommyW]

cunts, all of em

[lfc4eva99]

Spot on Bobhorse, exactly what i was wondering as well...

 

Its going to be interesting to see how they get another 300m for the club when we need it for the 2nd phase of construction of the stadium.....

[Section_31]

Where the fuck is Tim!?!

[hamstrung]

I think it is straw clutching to be honest, though I'm all for it.

 

You're probably right, but as Bobhorse says, I don't see the point in Hicks releasing this sort of information for no reason. Its not like he is doing it for our benefit.

[RedinSweden]

I think it is straw clutching to be honest, though I'm all for it.

 

I'm happy to grab a handful.

[TommyW]

Hicks likes to talk that's why he's released it, he also probably enjoys the fact that its two fingers up at us

 

the cunt

[Mr T]

This is just a little taster for us, they will change the way its structured after they have tested the water and not had too bad of a reaction, posters on here are even warming to the idea already, apathy will rule again.

 

Spot on. A few clever words here and there in the Echo, and people will start softening on them, phrases like this will start to occur on forums:

 

What do you expect, they are businessmen they want a return.

DIC would have been the same anyway.

Moores and Parry had no choice, they have helped us out.

We are only loaning whatever players we buy.

 

Infact I have just read this on another forum: "At last things are starting to sort themselves out. Let's hope the stadium plans look good." :wallbutt:

 

Apathy rules, the Echo has a lot of LFC fans by the balls.

[Rashid]

Kop Limited has only one investment - Liverpool FC it doesn't matter if they have the debt of LFC has it. What a fucking shite article by Barrett. He should have outed them for what they are, shysters.

[EmilHamilton]

Whether it's 105 million or 350 million it's debt, and it should not, under any circumstances be on the club.

 

If we wanted debt we would've held onto Moores and just gone forward with loaning money to build a stadium.

 

Rash, it's evident the club's controlling what Barrett can write. I wish Bascombe wrote for an every day newspaper, because he'd be under no such limitations and we'd know exactly what was going on.

[theRedHorse]

The club will take on £105m,

Kop Investment will take on £190m

Co-owners asked to put up £55m of their own money.

 

There's no way the owners are going to pay the interest on that £190m. I don't care how they do it, or what name they give to it, but they'll find a way of that money coming from the club.

 

I also expect them to remove their opponents from the board the first chance they get.

 

People seem to have missed that line from the article...

 

Is Tony trying to tell us something?

[WaltonRed]

Will they both put up 55m each? I cant see it.

[Best Believe It]

Our club is fucked.

[billybonzo]

Ynwa has its fair share of idiots doesn't it, that idiot Huyton Sissoko thinks we have been done up by the papers and the yanks are acting in the best interests of the club.

[theRedHorse]

But should the duo be removed from the board for any reason at any point in the future, there would be nothing to stop the entire debt from being shifted onto the club.

 

That sentence, there.

[Guest The Chimp]

Our club is fucked.

 

Only for a bit mate, we'll outlast these cunts. I just hope the pressue on them intensifies.

[Turkish Delight]

Whether it's 105 million or 350 million it's debt, and it should not, under any circumstances be on the club.

 

If we wanted debt we would've held onto Moores and just gone forward with loaning money to build a stadium.

 

Totally agree. I'm sick of hearing how we need the new stadium to compete as well. With football people in charge I would completely agree but with these cunts it will be them reaping the benefits in terms of extra profits and not us in terms of there being more money for the team.

[billybonzo]

Lets face it lads, the loan goes through, hidden behind the fanfare for the new stadium, which they cant even afford, and the uneducated fans out there who dont read internet forums will be right behind the yanks 100%, the PR for the new stadium will outweigh the negativity of the loan, the fuckers have us by the short n curlies

[Liverpoolway]

Kop Limited has only one investment - Liverpool FC it doesn't matter if they have the debt of LFC has it. What a fucking shite article by Barrett. He should have outed them for what they are, shysters.

 

Of course it matters.

 

It's a question of where the risk is placed.

 

By definition it's irrelevant how a project is financed (Miller & Modigliani). Equity isn't free as it comes with an assumption of profit (from dividends).

 

Exception for foundations, but they don't look for investors.

 

Liverpool had a substantial amount of debt when the americans came in, so £105 million of debt put on the club is not the end of the world.

 

What I personally want from investors in Liverpool FC is investement where profit comes as growth, not dividends.

[rebel23]

'Moores and Parry, who remain on the Liverpool board, refused to budge from this position and their stance was one of the main reasons why the financial restructuring deal is only now nearing completion.

 

Had they capitulated, the likelihood is Liverpool would today be saddled with a debt of £350m.

 

But should the duo be removed from the board for any reason at any point in the future, there would be nothing to stop the entire debt from being shifted onto the club.'

 

look, it's only a matter of time until that is fully loaded on to the club not to mention the extra 250m minimum (assuming no cost overruns) to complete the stadium. next year they will seek to do another refinance.

[theRedHorse]

Of course it matters.

 

It's a question of where the risk is placed.

 

By definition it's irrelevant how a project is financed (Miller & Modigliani). Equity isn't free as it comes with an assumption of profit (from dividends).

 

Exception for foundations, but they don't look for investors.

 

Liverpool had a substantial amount of debt when the americans came in, so £105 million of debt put on the club is not the end of the world.

 

What I personally want from investors in Liverpool FC is investement where profit comes as growth, not dividends.

 

Can we have that in l'anglais please...

[sh#t waffle]

Can we have that in l'anglais please...

 

Hicks is a penis.

[Cardie]

It shouldn't matter what re-financing is done or what debt is placed on the club, if DIC are interested they'll bid no matter what the situation.

[billybonzo]

'Moores and Parry, who remain on the Liverpool board, refused to budge from this position and their stance was one of the main reasons why the financial restructuring deal is only now nearing completion.

 

Had they capitulated, the likelihood is Liverpool would today be saddled with a debt of £350m.

 

But should the duo be removed from the board for any reason at any point in the future, there would be nothing to stop the entire debt from being shifted onto the club.'

 

look, it's only a matter of time until that is fully loaded on to the club not to mention the extra 250m minimum (assuming no cost overruns) to complete the stadium. next year they will seek to do another refinance.

 

 

Wait till they announce the groundshare then we will all have something to be thankful for.:wow:

[JustTosh]

This is it fellow Redmen, Today, January 23rd 2008, Liverpool F.C. died. Thank you for all the sweet memories. We walked together.

 

Some day a new Liverpool F.C. will rise from the ashes. LFC is dead – Long Live LFC!

 

R.I.P.

[Best Believe It]

Only for a bit mate, we'll outlast these cunts. I just hope the pressue on them intensifies.

 

We may well outlast them, but what's stopping them from selling to another group of shithouses? With Moores and Parry at the helm we mistakenly believed that when selling they would do what's best for the club. However we now have owners who will do what is best for them. They'll rip the club apart if it'll suit them. They're not Liverpool fans, they couldn't give a toss about the history or traditions of our club.