Israel - A Rant

[Strontium]

Just like you're not being critical of Israel? What's good for the goose?

I've often been critical of them, but even if I hadn't, that doesn't explain your curious double standard.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

You’ve gone double daft, never go double daft. I was referring to you popping up wherever I post. You being the wider ‘you’ of course.

Maybe just say what you mean then?

 

It's not 3-2-1

 

I can't believe that hardly any of you have an issue with 13 unarmed demonstrators being murdered. Unbelievable stuff. If it was in Venezuela, I'm sure you'd manage to be critical then. And somehow blame Corbyn.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I've often been critical of them, but even if I hadn't, that doesn't explain your curious double standard.

There is no double standard. Just an unfounded assumption on your part. Namely that (a) I'm only critical of Israel; and (b) that just because I haven't criticised Russia on here, that means I haven't criticised them on other platforms.

 

We all know what the cheap insinuation that you're trying to make is. I'm used to it from lazy Hasbara merchants. As I've said before, it's a calculated tactic to delegitamise the person, rather than tackle the point being made.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

If I had been repeatedly kicked out of my house after peacefully letting in the baylifts the next time I got a place they would not get past the front gate.

But, you still wouldn't be justified in shooting the bailiffs dead if they were unarmed and 200 metres away from your gate.

 

Another terrible analogy.

[Rico1304]

Maybe just say what you mean then?

It's not 3-2-1

I can't believe that hardly any of you have an issue with 13 unarmed demonstrators being murdered. Unbelievable stuff. If it was in Venezuela, I'm sure you'd manage to be critical then. And somehow blame Corbyn.

It’s horrific.

[Anny Road]

But, you still wouldn't be justified in shooting the bailiffs dead if they were unarmed and 200 metres away from your gate.

 

Another terrible analogy.

Yes probably is a shit analogy but I can understand if not totally condone it.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Yes probably is a shit analogy but I can understand if not totally condone it.

I can't understand it. They were unarmed protestors and of no threat to the 100 snipers hundreds of metres away.

 

What you're "understanding" sounds a lot like advocacy of collective punishment.

[Anny Road]

They are defending what they see as the security of their own people. From people who want to take it away. The rights and wrongs of that are a separate issue but I can understand them doing what they do.

[Lee909]

They are defending what they see as the security of their own people. From people who want to take it away. The rights and wrongs of that are a separate issue but I can understand them doing what they do.

You can understand them shooting people who are not a threat to them.

 

I have no issues with Jews or Israeli's as individuals. My issues stems from the far right in Israel and the government. Both complete cunts. Quick to label anyone against the anti semites and use the evils of the past as a excuse to poor evil on some pretty desperate people while stealing there land rights.

[Anny Road]

Israel’s actions in the Middle East and probably further afield stink. The are often barbaric. Facing down stone throwers with automatic weapons. I’ve no time for them politically.

Understanding something and the reasons they have for doing it does not condone it.

[Lee909]

Fair enough

[SammyAftershave]

Who is going to keep the unchecked ultra-right-wing Pro-Semites in check? Y'now, without the automatic 'anti-semite' card block confronting anyone who dares challenge it?

[Strontium]

I can't believe that hardly any of you have an issue with 13 unarmed demonstrators being murdered. Unbelievable stuff. If it was in Venezuela, I'm sure you'd manage to be critical then. And somehow blame Corbyn.

If it happened in Venezuela, you wouldn't see fit to mention it. Because it happens all the time in Venezuela, and you don't mention it.

 

But yes, keep calling people who point out your double standards agents of Israel, that really helps your argument.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

If it happened in Venezuela, you wouldn't see fit to mention it. Because it happens all the time in Venezuela, and you don't mention it.

 

But yes, keep calling people who point out your double standards agents of Israel, that really helps your argument.

Hasbara.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Stop storming the border would help them escape death to.

You can't seriously be shrugging off a massacre of unarmed civilians at a peaceful protest.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

If anyone deserves the right to be a bit touchy it is the Jews.

Fucksake.

 

"The Jews" didn’t commit this massacre. The Israeli military did.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

They are defending what they see as the security of their own people. From people who want to take it away. The rights and wrongs of that are a separate issue but I can understand them doing what they do.

Palestinians have been evicted from their homes. Refugees are denied the right of return (contrary to international law). Hundreds of them attended a peaceful protest against that injustice.

 

I'm not aware of any Israelis being evicted from their homes in Israel by any Palestinians. Ever.

 

Your analogy is completely the wrong way round.

 

Nothing justifies this atrocity.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I'd like to retract all my comments on today's events.

 

The IDF have spoken to clarify things.

 

It wasn't Israel's fault. Again. They were the poor, attacked victim.

 

It was a "Hamas march" and "17,000 Palestinians rioted." Plus, there wasn't a single child attending a peaceful protest. Any child present was being used as "a human shield" by "terrorists."

 

We should, once again, praise the brave IDF boys for their wonderful restraint for not calling in the jets in the face of such unprecedented aggressive flag waving.

[SammyAftershave]

How many innocent illegal Israeli settlers died on these troubled streets today?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

If it happened in Venezuela, you wouldn't see fit to mention it. Because it happens all the time in Venezuela, and you don't mention it.

 

Does it?

[Jairzinho]

They are defending what they see as the security of their own people. From people who want to take it away. The rights and wrongs of that are a separate issue but I can understand them doing what they do.

Your timeline of events appears to be missing a bit.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Haha. The state of this. The sheer fear of telling the truth in case the you know what card gets played. Embarrassing.

 

"stellacreasy

 

@stellacreasy

 

Terrible scenes in Israel-nations have right to defend borders but responses 2 violence must be proportionate. death and injuries of Gazans as well as those few protesters intent on harming Israeli civilians must be condemned & Egypt, hamas & Israel must work for peace together.

 

7:37 pm · 30 Mar 2018"

[Jairzinho]

I hope she condemns herself.

[Anny Road]

Palestinians have been evicted from their homes. Refugees are denied the right of return (contrary to international law). Hundreds of them attended a peaceful protest against that injustice.

I'm not aware of any Israelis being evicted from their homes in Israel by any Palestinians. Ever.

Your analogy is completely the wrong way round.

Nothing justifies this atrocity.

Show me where I have attempted to justify it.

[Anny Road]

Your timeline of events appears to be missing a bit.

The rights and wrongs are not what I was discussing. Israel is bang out of order.

I can however understand them not giving a fuck about anyone else and looking after themselves.