Israel - A Rant

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Jurgen Knows said:

Occupy their houses, humiliate them, kill them, arrest them, mock them … and when they exercise their “right to defend themselves” just call them terrorists:

 

 

 

Yeah but Saudis can't protest? 

[Poor Scouser T]

4 hours ago, Jurgen Knows said:

Some more meaningless stuff with no context here:

 

https://x.com/shayxea/status/1719742681876930632?s=46&t=rTM5huSAdkyumn9JrNS_MQ

 

 

Stop being a tit. You know the point I was making. random images mean nothing without the context  in which they were taken. We all know the Israelis are acting like maniacs  not sure who you are trying to convince. Again and again.

[Poor Scouser T]

Hamas Covenant. Not sure how you negotiate with this.

The Covenant proclaims that Israel will exist until Islam obliterates it, and jihad against Jews is required until Judgement Day. Compromise over the land is forbidden. The documents promote holy war as divinely ordained, reject political solutions, and call for instilling these views in children.

 

 

[Kepler-186]

26 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

 

The replies under the Thatcher loving scouse ex army major are basically calling for the imposition of a dictatorship, for the bizzies to get tooled up and slagging off modern Tories for being too soft and not racist enough. 
 

 

[Gnasher]

They're fucking potty.

 

 

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

I hope IDS falls under a steam roller!

[Poor Scouser T]

Here is a idea to the ruling elite who lecture us about poppies. Stop sending lads to war. Then they wont get killed.

 

Plus why are Footy teams having poppies on the shirt and the bugle played before kick off. What has that got to do with sport? Most of the lads are foreign anyway and most could not tell you what decade the war was in. Do we have a minutes silence at  the start of Eastenders or the 6 o'clock news or homes under the hammer?

[an tha]

10 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

They're fucking potty.

 

 

 

 

Another cunt who has hijacked the poppy and remembrance day - his profile pic says it all.

[Bjornebye]

Nile Gardner the kid toucher who spends his time attacking Meghan markle. Another little cunt who needs to fuck off 

[Poor Scouser T]

Isn't the whole principal of remembrance Sunday to remember and not make the same mistakes again. Best day for a march to bring reality home not just bowed heads and poppies.

[Bjornebye]

15 minutes ago, an tha said:

Another cunt who has hijacked the poppy and remembrance day - his profile pic says it all.

 

Same cunt probably killed more people in this country than the germans 

[Arniepie]

14 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

Isn't the whole principal of remembrance Sunday to remember and not make the same mistakes again. Best day for a march to bring reality home not just bowed heads and poppies.

Yep

[Arniepie]

40 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

They're fucking potty.

 

 

 

 

It's quite heart warming how much Lineker annoys the bootlickers 

[Arniepie]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/04/plans-to-redefine-extremism-would-include-undermining-uk-values

[an tha]

16 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

Same cunt probably killed more people in this country than the germans 

[an tha]

17 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/04/plans-to-redefine-extremism-would-include-undermining-uk-values

I look forward to right wing extremists like Suella Braverman being fucked by this....oh hang on....

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Kepler-186 said:

The replies under the Thatcher loving scouse ex army major are basically calling for the imposition of a dictatorship, for the bizzies to get tooled up and slagging off modern Tories for being too soft and not racist enough.

 

Yeah the "pro-hamas" marches and the general response to the Israeli gov's bombing have definitely wound up a fair amount of twitter right wingers that seem to have turned quickly towards fascism on this subject even though they won't admit it.

[Kevin D]

Never see numbers like that during a national crisis.

[Red Shift]

2 hours ago, Poor Scouser T said:

Hamas Covenant. Not sure how you negotiate with this.

The Covenant proclaims that Israel will exist until Islam obliterates it, and jihad against Jews is required until Judgement Day. Compromise over the land is forbidden. The documents promote holy war as divinely ordained, reject political solutions, and call for instilling these views in children.

 

 

we know that Hamas stinks like a cess pit, and we also know that Hamas gained power in a vacuum, and they are not representative of the Palestinian people generally.

 

There’s never going to be a two state solution within the area of Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. Never. Israel refuse that emphatically, regardless of what Hamas’s doctrine is. 
 

So what’s the solution? Any ideas?

[Poor Scouser T]

Just now, Red Shift said:

we know that Hamas stinks like cess pit, and we also know that Hamas gained power in a vacuum, and they are not representative of the Palestinian people generally.

 

There’s never going to be a two state solution within the area of Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. Never. Israel refuse that emphatically, regardless of what Hamas’s doctrine is. 
 

So what’s the solution? Any ideas?

No idea. But if say the Welsh were intent on the destruction of England. Backed by the Scots, the French, the Dutch, the Norwegians, the Germans and Iceland and launched missiles at London. 1000's of them. Burned families alive, raped killed and slaughtered. What do you recon we would do.

That is not to down play the horrendous treatment the people have suffered but what would we do? We would wipe them out, as we have done in Africa and India in the past. 

We gave the Jews Israel we need to shoulder our responsibility.

[Red Shift]

23 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

No idea. But if say the Welsh were intent on the destruction of England. Backed by the Scots, the French, the Dutch, the Norwegians, the Germans and Iceland and launched missiles at London. 1000's of them. Burned families alive, raped killed and slaughtered. What do you recon we would do.

That is not to down play the horrendous treatment the people have suffered but what would we do? We would wipe them out, as we have done in Africa and India in the past. 

We gave the Jews Israel we need to shoulder our responsibility.

Based on your reply then, can I ask you if you believe that the displaced Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank should have a national identity and self determination, on an area of land in keeping with the original 1947 UN resolution?

[Poor Scouser T]

1 minute ago, Red Shift said:

Based on your reply then, can I ask you if you believe that the displaced Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank should have a national identity and self determination, on an area of land in keeping with the original 1947 UN resolution?

Absolutely. Whatever was agreed in 1947 should have been enforced. The Palestinian people have been shat on, abused and will be destroyed. Completely unacceptable.

 

However if your enemy has an stated aim to destroy you, regardless of time, consequence or negotiation. You have little choice but to destroy them before they do it to you. 1000's of rockets and dead would tip perspective.

Yes Israel are cunts, we know that, we gave them the licence. US renews it.

[Red Phoenix]

18 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

we know that Hamas stinks like a cess pit, and we also know that Hamas gained power in a vacuum, and they are not representative of the Palestinian people generally.

 

There’s never going to be a two state solution within the area of Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. Never. Israel refuse that emphatically, regardless of what Hamas’s doctrine is. 
 

So what’s the solution? Any ideas?

 

Eventually it might all become too much of a burden for the US establishment if they become more isolated due to their support of this. If that happens they might be able to push for a peace deal that actually works. US politicians often like to preach about how they're the leaders of the free world and this clearly destroys that image and is going to be remembered for a long time so I don't think it's beyond possible that we'll actually see some decent change eventually.

 

It could easily go the other way as well where this carries on like it is doing but I'd rather hope for something better happening even if it might not seem realistic at the moment.

[etho]

30 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

No idea. But if say the Welsh were intent on the destruction of England. Backed by the Scots, the French, the Dutch, the Norwegians, the Germans and Iceland and launched missiles at London. 1000's of them. Burned families alive, raped killed and slaughtered. What do you recon we would do.

That is not to down play the horrendous treatment the people have suffered but what would we do? We would wipe them out, as we have done in Africa and India in the past. 

We gave the Jews Israel we need to shoulder our responsibility.

 

Ok but what if the majority of Welsh people weren't, less than 0.02 percent of them were, and they happened to be the ones who harboured those views and had the guns (let's not get into why they haboured those views to cloud the argument) And over  half the 2.2 million innocent welsh were children. We would go and wipe them out? What does that make us?

[cloggypop]

32 minutes ago, Poor Scouser T said:

the Dutch

 

They've already taken it. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution#:~:text=The Glorious Revolution is the,facto ruler of the Dutch