This VE Day thing.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Haven’t been to a wedding for years. Last time I was invited to one I fucked it off and went to some boxing instead. 

Much of a muchness for a Runcorn wedding. 

[s(k)aturation]

22 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

But, we shouldn’t be too hard on the old fascists as they weren’t all real fascists they were tricked.  I mean, who hasn’t been tricked into operating death camps? But we’ll be ok because all the Nazis get punched but at the same time they are taking over. 

 

And all those Nazi housewife whores, tricked into being raped as the victors swept into Eastern Germany to liberate Europe.

 

Celebrate good times. V for victory.

 

 

 

[Rico1304]

Just now, skaro said:

 

And all those Nazi housewife whores, tricked into being raped as the victors swept through Eastern Germany to liberate Europe.

 

Celebrate good times. V for victory.

 

 

I’m struggling to see your point here. 
 

Is it that we shouldn’t have defeated the Germans? 
 

On one hand we shouldn’t be too fucking cocky about winning the war because it was the Russians who really won it for us but then it gets a big fucking tricky because the Russians were horrific when they got into Germany and Poland? 

[Captain Turdseye]

3 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Much of a muchness for a Runcorn wedding. 

It was a Berkshire wedding actually. The last time I went to a wedding in Runcorn, I’d spent the night before in St Anne Street cells and got on the 82 bus to Speke with a quarter bottle of brandy and two cans of coke that a newsagent opposite Lime St sold to me at ten past six in the morning.  
 

Coincidentally as far as this thread goes, I’m fairly sure it was on the same day as those evil German bastards beat England at the 2010 World Cup.  

[A Red]

7 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

It was a Berkshire wedding actually. The last time I went to a wedding in Runcorn, I’d spent the night before in St Anne Street cells and got on the 82 bus to Speke with a quarter bottle of brandy and two cans of coke that a newsagent opposite Lime St sold to me at ten past six in the morning.  
 

Coincidentally as far as this thread goes, I’m fairly sure it was on the same day as those evil German bastards beat England at the 2010 World Cup.  

It was the 82c you fucking wool

[A Red]

26 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Some wonky dot-joining here.

You were referring to corona virus leading to a rise in fascism, a bit like sleep giving you cancer, everyone knows that.

 

It was others making the link to flying the flag on VE day to being fascist

[Captain Turdseye]

7 minutes ago, A Red said:

It was the 82c you fucking wool

You clearly know nothing about working class bus routes, you big Tory twat. 

[Creator Supreme]

Just been flicking through channels earlier on, and World at War was on. Talking about the firebombing of Dresden! Fuck me there were some appalling sights, and some of the survivors just looked haunted, and that was 30 years or so after the event! Just awful!

[Bjornebye]

3 hours ago, Ben Sherman said:

Your one sad cunt. Probably gutted the nazis didn't win. You'd have had s United Ireland and the Jews would have ended on Madagascar. The only socialist you are is a national socialist. Rule Britannia. 

Grinch took it too far as usual but you are one bad nobhead. 

[Pureblood]

28 minutes ago, A Red said:

You were referring to corona virus leading to a rise in fascism, a bit like sleep giving you cancer, everyone knows that.

 

It was others making the link to flying the flag on VE day to being fascist

I'm still at a loss as to the point you're trying to prove.  It's probably not all as nefarious as you're making it sound.  As far as I can tell, most people on the thread are at ease with VE Day celebrations whilst at the same time expressing concern about where it's all going in today's political climate.  That's a perfectly reasonable outlook to have, it doesn't all have to be seen through a binary left vs right prism. 

[Rico1304]

28 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I'm still at a loss as to the point you're trying to prove.  It's probably not all as nefarious as you're making it sound.  As far as I can tell, most people on the thread are at ease with VE Day celebrations whilst at the same time expressing concern about where it's all going in today's political climate.  That's a perfectly reasonable outlook to have, it doesn't all have to be seen through a binary left vs right prism. 

You’d really hope so wouldn’t you? 
 

But had JC won the last election I’m absolutely convinced that the same street parties, the same fly last of the red arrows and the same TV programmes wouldn’t have been seen as a being a concerning reflection of today’s political climate.  Same people, doing the same thing. 

[s(k)aturation]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

I’m struggling to see your point here. 
 

Is it that we shouldn’t have defeated the Germans? 
 

On one hand we shouldn’t be too fucking cocky about winning the war because it was the Russians who really won it for us but then it gets a big fucking tricky because the Russians were horrific when they got into Germany and Poland? 

 

I'm being a pain in the arse because I'm struggling with the notion of "celebrating" and "victory" that you seem to not be struggling with.

 

It's very much my issue and problem, and not yours.

 

But that's an internet opinion forum for you, eh.

 

 

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

13 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

For a bunch of people keen on punching Nazis you’d have thought defeating them in a war would be a bit more popular. 

'Celebrating' the deaths of millions of people 75 years later is a strange thing in my book. Showing respect and gratitude is a much better way to look at it for me. Especially since those things that ignited it still exist in the world today.

[Rico1304]

10 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

'Celebrating' the deaths of millions of people 75 years later is a strange thing in my book. Showing respect and gratitude is a much better way to look at it for me. Especially since those things that ignited it still exist in the world today.

It’s celebrating the end of the deaths. Who anywhere is celebrating the deaths? 
 

Contortionists are work again.  

[Grinch]

8 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

Just been flicking through channels earlier on, and World at War was on. Talking about the firebombing of Dresden! Fuck me there were some appalling sights, and some of the survivors just looked haunted, and that was 30 years or so after the event! Just awful!

The good guys did that, be thankful. 

[VladimirIlyich]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

It’s celebrating the end of the deaths. Who anywhere is celebrating the deaths? 
 

Contortionists are work again.  

Bunting and street parties are celebrations are they not? Entirely appropriate 75 years ago but not appropriate now,in my view. You really have a problem when people disagree with your tory voting,anti muslim views and never seem to let up until you believe you've achieved some kind of internet win. Strange.

[Captain Turdseye]

The most important thing to remember about VE Day: It’s gone, get over it. 
 

 

Everyone get back to the Coronavirus thread and reignite some shit in there. 

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Bunting and street parties are celebrations are they not? Entirely appropriate 75 years ago but not appropriate now,in my view. You really have a problem when people disagree with your tory voting,anti muslim views and never seem to let up until you believe you've achieved some kind of internet win. Strange.

I’ve no issue with people disagreeing with me, but I like to call bullshit when I see it.  Which I am.  
 

It’s funny, when I call Catholicism or Scientology a load of old bollocks no one minds.  Ever. 

[Section_31]

One of the things that's impressive about how the British did in the war was that they were undermined by stupidity and bad leadership since well before the war, yet still emerged victorious due to the general hardness of the average British bloke.

 

Consider it was the biggest empire the world had ever seen yet found itself up against panzers with tanks that looked like they'd been built by Compo from last of the summer wine. Or the fact they had to be evacuated from Dunkirk in rubber dinghies and the south Cornwall rowing club. 

 

We were selling parts to the german aircraft industry right up to the start of the war even though we had a fair idea of what was going on, we also taught the Japanese how to wage naval warfare (they built a brick-by-brick replica of Dartmouth naval college in Japan.) One of their admirals famously witnessed us enacting an air attack against a warship and took that back with him as a model for the future. We didn't, obviously. When it kicked off in the far east we sent our pride and joy - two ships of the line - the repulse and the prince of Wales - to take law to the savages, but both were promptly sunk en route by, you guessed it, torpedo bombers. Churchill later recounted that this was his 'darkest hour'.

 

The British had to wage what was almost a guerilla war. The SAS were forged in North Africa and they used to do shit like ride hundreds of miles behind the lines and garote top german army officers in the middle of the night. Because we had no shells that could pierce the armour of a king tiger, they used to dig ditches and wait for the tank to pass over, cut its fuel line, and when it trundled to a halt they'd pour a Jerry can (arf) of petrol over it, set it alight to draw the oxygen out, then gun down the crew when they came up for air.

 

It seems to be a trait of ours that we depend on the hardness and graft of our own individual soldiers and sailors rather than gear. At Trafalgar, our galleons were smaller than the french and Spanish, but our crews could climb rigging and load guns far faster

 

In the Second World War think too of all the poor sods in the Merch, making trek after trek across the Atlantic, sat in the engine room waiting for that 'boom' in the middle of the night. 

 

Britain's success was also won by the individual genius of clever people, inventing radar and computers, cracking nazi codes.

 

Our espionage was also second to none, as was the support for resistance groups, often encapsulating traditional British eccentricity. The Special operations executive used to train in a Scottish manor house and one of the tests involved allowing new recruits to drink whisky until they could barely stand, then when they were on their way to bed someon would jump out of the wardrobe with a sword and they'd have to defend themselves.

 

The Americans, late war Soviets and germans achieved what they did with equipment and tactics, we seemed to have neither. It's incredible that we triumphed and it's to that generation's eternal credit.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

We'll meet again in the ICU?

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

15 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

One of the things that's impressive about how the British did in the war was that they were undermined by stupidity and bad leadership since well before the war,

I think I read somewhere that Mad Alf Heatlump later admitted that the game would have been up if the British or French had fired a single shot in opposition when he remilitarised the Rhineland in 1936. The French Government were too panicky and divided to respond effecively and the pervasive British Government attitude was "I suppose they can do what they like in their own back yard". The chance was missed and bad shit happened.

[A Red]

10 hours ago, TK421 said:

I'm still at a loss as to the point you're trying to prove.  It's probably not all as nefarious as you're making it sound.  As far as I can tell, most people on the thread are at ease with VE Day celebrations whilst at the same time expressing concern about where it's all going in today's political climate.  That's a perfectly reasonable outlook to have, it doesn't all have to be seen through a binary left vs right prism. 

VE day is celebrating the end of a war that beat fascists, I just dont see how people can think that it in anyway contributes towards a rise in fascism. Its a positive, no need to raise concerns (or sneer), its our previous generations equivalent of todays shouting, punching and chucking food at fascists. It is the ultimate anti fascist celebration.

 

 

[Section_31]

Just now, AngryofTuebrook said:

I think I read somewhere that Mad Alf Heatlump later admitted that the game would have been up if the British or French had fired a single shot in opposition when he remilitarised the Rhineland in 1936. The French Government were too panicky and divided to respond effecively and the pervasive British Government attitude was "I suppose they can do what they like in their own back yard". The chance was missed and bad shit happened.

Yep, Hitler instructed his troops to pull out if they met any resistance but they didn't. 

[Rico1304]

33 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

One of the things that's impressive about how the British did in the war was that they were undermined by stupidity and bad leadership since well before the war, yet still emerged victorious due to the general hardness of the average British bloke.

 

Consider it was the biggest empire the world had ever seen yet found itself up against panzers with tanks that looked like they'd been built by Compo from last of the summer wine. Or the fact they had to be evacuated from Dunkirk in rubber dinghies and the south Cornwall rowing club. 

 

We were selling parts to the german aircraft industry right up to the start of the war even though we had a fair idea of what was going on, we also taught the Japanese how to wage naval warfare (they built a brick-by-brick replica of Dartmouth naval college in Japan.) One of their admirals famously witnessed us enacting an air attack against a warship and took that back with him as a model for the future. We didn't, obviously. When it kicked off in the far east we sent our pride and joy - two ships of the line - the repulse and the prince of Wales - to take law to the savages, but both were promptly sunk en route by, you guessed it, torpedo bombers. Churchill later recounted that this was his 'darkest hour'.

 

The British had to wage what was almost a guerilla war. The SAS were forged in North Africa and they used to do shit like ride hundreds of miles behind the lines and garote top german army officers in the middle of the night. Because we had no shells that could pierce the armour of a king tiger, they used to dig ditches and wait for the tank to pass over, cut its fuel line, and when it trundled to a halt they'd pour a Jerry can (arf) of petrol over it, set it alight to draw the oxygen out, then gun down the crew when they came up for air.

 

It seems to be a trait of ours that we depend on the hardness and graft of our own individual soldiers and sailors rather than gear. At Trafalgar, our galleons were smaller than the french and Spanish, but our crews could climb rigging and load guns far faster

 

In the Second World War think too of all the poor sods in the Merch, making trek after trek across the Atlantic, sat in the engine room waiting for that 'boom' in the middle of the night. 

 

Britain's success was also won by the individual genius of clever people, inventing radar and computers, cracking nazi codes.

 

Our espionage was also second to none, as was the support for resistance groups, often encapsulating traditional British eccentricity. The Special operations executive used to train in a Scottish manor house and one of the tests involved allowing new recruits to drink whisky until they could barely stand, then when they were on their way to bed someon would jump out of the wardrobe with a sword and they'd have to defend themselves.

 

The Americans, late war Soviets and germans achieved what they did with equipment and tactics, we seemed to have neither. It's incredible that we triumphed and it's to that generation's eternal credit.

Does TK know you’ve nicked his avatar? 

[Gnasher]

31 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

We'll meet again in the ICU?