Leicester (A) - 8pm, 27/02/17 - Huzzah Tarquin, let's go orf for a spot of foxhunting harrumph!

[El Rojo]

MARIOCART

[Faustus]

I honestly don't know where to begin. It just feels like some recurring nightmare. The worst thing is, it's one you can see coming a mile off; like knowing that piece of Danish blue before bed will give you some fucked up dreams, but you go ahead and scoff it anyway.

 

First off all, the in-game management from Klopp and the players is fucking rank. I'm honestly baffled at how bad it is because I've watched Sunday League teams with more nous than this shower; hungover and overweight amateurs who know precisely how to play the game as it's unfolding. From the kick off it was apparent Leicester were coming out all guns blazing to get the crowd onside. How about slowing things down, taking the sting out of proceedings? Not a fucking chance- ignore how it's unfolding, allow yourself to get harried and then play a hospital ball gifting them possession. It's a fucking joke how thick our lot are. Take your time on throws, win a few snide free kicks, even give away a couple in inconsequential areas of the pitch to kill their momentum. It's fucking basic. Just ride the storm, quieten the crowd and get yourself into the game. Same old though- we give a shite team encouragement and an incentive that they can get something out of the game by playing into their hands.

 

Although Swansea and Hull were nowhere near as aggressive when they played us, the same applied in that we gave them encouragement by failing to raise the game. We were stood picking our arses on dead balls, playing passes directly into feet instead of giving the man something to run on to, there was no letting the opposition know that you're there; the kind of pedestrian game that teams lacking in confidence relish because they can ease themselves into it. It's like this brain dead shower are wired into doing one thing and one thing only and they shit themselves if the game isn't panning out as they liked.

 

It's got to get better from the players and it's got to get better from Klopp on this front.

 

Also, the midfield: what a fucking aberration. Lallana and Wijnaldum look great against teams that want to play against you because they can harry and hit that quick ball on the turnover, but against alehouse sides they're fucking useless. You badly need a specialist in there who can get his foot on the ball, knit things together, drive with a bit of conviction. Against the shite, we're like the Chuckle Brothers in there: 'to me, to you'- as if the ball's a fucking hot potato. How many midfield specialists have we signed in the last 4-5 years? Can and Allen, is it? Absolutely appalling.

 

I often think there's a real smart arse culture at this club. We're looking for short cuts that simply aren't there and when we have a good spell, we start patting ourselves on the back, before shit reverts to type. There's no getting away from it in this League: to compete you need a fucking spine. Chelsea this year have had it (and traditionally have under Abramovich), it was the Mancs' staple under Ferguson and even bloody Leicester City had on last season. At the very least, you can look competent by having a keeper who can bail you out the shit once in a while and a lad at the other end of the pitch who can chip in with 20 a season. We've got a turd keeper and another who has not covered himself in glory, one centre half worth a carrot, two number 10s playing in midfield with a lad who was a box to box player now in the holding role, and a bloody false 9 because one striker- when he's not injured, that is- can't run and the other seemingly won't. It's a fucking mess in the cold light of day.

 

No matter how many times we as fans try to spin things, stats virgins try to justify the point of their new pet, money men make a case for X over Y because of things like age and sell on value, or managers just insist on flogging a dead horse, you ultimately can't get away from the fundamentals of the game.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Carragher is right, Teams know how to beat Liverpool now and everyone of them are having a go and most are successful, surely we need to change the way we play is that not common sence or am i being nieve?

December 2016 wants its insights back.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Cheers for the info. Hopefully we can sign Sonic the hedgehog then. We need a bit more pace in the side.

Run rings around the opposition.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Carragher for me. Or Gerrard. I think they'd do a managerial double act anyway.

 

How often is our problem down to a lack of effort and bollocka?? Those two wouldn't stand for softarses in the team.

 

Klopp needs a kick up the arse. 1 win in 7.

Neither of them have ever managed anything.

 

Graeme Sounness was a top quality player who never stood for softarses.  He was also a shit manager.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Carragher is spot on their highlighting the very similar goals conceded against Hull, Burnley and tonight.

 

We're not good enough to play that high a line. Plus, it's exposed without a specialist ball winner in front of them.

[Trumo]

The first 10 minutes gave us all a clue as to which side was more fired up. From the kick off, the ball was played long to their wide player and found him. Not only that, but he battled to keep the ball. Then it seemed as though they could launch a long throw-in into our box every minute or so. Incidentally, we must be the only team in the world who have neither a player who can hold the ball up under pressure, nor somebody who can threaten from a throw-in. That's in addition to being fucking clueless at both ends when dealing with corners.

 

We have completely fucked up the rest of our season in 2017. We have no momentum and could feasibly finish outside the European places once again. Considering we were being talked up as title contenders not so long ago, the tail-off is alarming. If the first XI aren't at the races, we have nobody on the bench who can make an impact at present.

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

Carra fucking nailing it again.

 

I'd love him to tell this shit to Klopp's face.

[an tha]

We defo haven't entered change the manager territory yet! If we still have the same problems this time next year with another two transfer windows passed then for me the question about have we got the right manager/is he working under conditions that he can make things work in have to be asked.

[Liverpool lad]

ANYONE SUM THIS UP?

[El Rojo]

Carragher for me. Or Gerrard. I think they'd do a managerial double act anyway.

 

How often is our problem down to a lack of effort and bollocka?? Those two wouldn't stand for softarses in the team.

 

Klopp needs a kick up the arse. 1 win in 7.

Agree. Gerrard and Carragher, with Alan Curbishley as director of football.

[Russ Atmosphere]

ANYONE SUM THIS UP?

[Paco]

Carragher is spot on their highlighting the very similar goals conceded against Hull, Burnley and tonight.

 

We're not good enough to play that high a line. Plus, it's exposed without a specialist ball winner in front of them.

That first Vardy goal is proof of that. I know wijnaldum has put it on a plate for drinkwater but it's too easy for him to slide that ball through because we have zero protection in front of our centre backs.

 

It's just so obvious that if Klopp decided he was keeping the majority of these players last summer and was going to continue to play this formation, he absolutely had to bring in a defensive midfielder to stop that sort of thing happening so easily.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

Carragher for me. Or Gerrard. I think they'd do a managerial double act anyway.

 

How often is our problem down to a lack of effort and bollocka?? Those two wouldn't stand for softarses in the team.

 

Klopp needs a kick up the arse. 1 win in 7.

If that's the kind of management you believe in I'd rather go for the proven solution and hire fat Sam.

[El Rojo]

Carra fucking nailing it again.

 

I'd love him to tell this shit to Klopp's face.

I'd love to see him try to manage a football club.

[Arl arse]

ANYONE SUM THIS UP?

[Paco]

The first 10 minutes gave us all a clue as to which side was more fired up. From the kick off, the ball was played long to their wide player and found him. Not only that, but he battled to keep the ball. Then it seemed as though they could launch a long throw-in into our box every minute or so. Incidentally, we must be the only team in the world who have neither a player who can hold the ball up under pressure, nor somebody who can threaten from a throw-in. That's in addition to being fucking clueless at both ends when dealing with corners.

 

We have completely fucked up the rest of our season in 2017. We have no momentum and could feasibly finish outside the European places once again. Considering we were being talked up as title contenders not so long ago, the tail-off is alarming. If the first XI aren't at the races, we have nobody on the bench who can make an impact at present.

I knew we were in trouble when I saw the bookies adverts on tv before the game. Liverpool 3-1 14/1. Both teams to score liverpool win 5/2. They done their homework and knew what was coming. Lots of money.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

If Klopp thinks he can do it here without major investment then good luck to him if he is telling the truth and not just being hamstrung by the owners. If he knew the situation when he signed his new contract that money was at a premium which looks likely then he has a job on his hands.

He needs to lose the stubborn, kick the shite out, and get some men in the team, fed up with girly haired tattooed shithouses.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

I'd love to see him try to manage a football club.

Or a pub.

[3 Stacks]

If that's the kind of management you believe in I'd rather go for the proven solution and hire fat Sam.

 

Honestly, there's no point in trying to play good football anymore. We've seen that the players aren't good enough to win things or even finish in the top 4 trying to play fluid, attacking football. It exposes them for the frauds they are. Whoever we go for next and whenever that may be, I think we should get someone more conservative.

[JoeBuck]

Is Jurgen Klopp not just some loveable fraud - in his 16 managerial seasons, he has won trophies in two of them. I can see why - we thought the Basel implosion was the exception not the rule, but maybe it's not a coincidence that he's not won any of his last 5 finals.

 

After fielding the disgraceful under strength team in the last winnable trophy - we're Liverpool Jurgen,we like to win stuff- we have a weekend off in La Manga when the fraudulent non- winners like Lallana and Henderson start talking shite like Redknapp did 20 years ago - we can do this , that. Tonight, not one player showed up and had half the fight of a Leicester player.

 

So much for the winter break excuse Jurgs. Or bless them , maybe they lacked match sharpness because they hadn't played.

 

We've had these romantic, perceptive false dawns for 20 years now - Evans, Ged, Kenny, Rodgers, Klopp.

 

Maybe just bring back the one guy who turned us back into a genuine European force and who has so much integrity to go from Real Madrid to a Club even in the championship that most resembles us in terms of romance.

[billypilgrimnz]

Okay, so we have a proven manager. Is it now that everyone realizes that our squad is utter, utter shit? And that it is probably going to stay that way for the foreseeable future?

[Mathewbet1]

We've been in relegation form in 2017, klopp may be too stubourn but he's the right man no doubt. Our fall since new year's Eve has been catalismic, guess what we beat arsenal this weekend

[jimmycase]

Neither of them have ever managed anything.

 

Graeme Sounness was a top quality player who never stood for softarses.  He was also a shit manager.

 

This.

 

Loved Jamie to death and he talks a good game. Just like neville and look how his management spell turned out.

 

People can call Klopp if they want, its their right. But they are misguided. Klopp has been let down by his team tonight. Our players should have beaten that lot tonight whether lucas played in defence or not.

 

What did we create? We created the sum of fuck all. Is that lucas' fault? No, we need to look at Milner, Coutinho, Bobby, Mane, Wijnaldum.

 

Klopp needs to find an enforcer type player to be in his players faces all game.

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Okay, so we have a proven manager. Is it now that everyone realizes that our squad is utter, utter shit? And that it is probably going to stay that way for the foreseeable future?

 

No, we have been consistently realizing this for the past fucking half decade and our 'proven manager' has done the square root of absolutely fuck all to improve it.