Dalian Atkinson Killed by Cops

[Mendoza]

[matt1983]

As long as they don't get grease on the snooker table.

 

(joke by the way)

Snooker and beers is after dinner and a porno.

[RJ Fan club]

I'm not justifying the blues as there is no justifying it but I'm equally not ruling out that their call just got cancelled.

 

Taking firefighters off a fire engine to collect a takeaway will affect the availability of that machine. If they go together, they stay available.

 

Spare food sounds like a good solution. Maybe the taxpayer can foot the bill for stuff that doesn't get eaten but is kept lying around on the off chance. Or maybe they can just pick up a takeaway while available for calls once in a while.

Don't get me wrong I genuinely don't care what they do. But public perception and being seen to be disciplined, clean and fair is important. Otherwise they and all who serve get labelled the same.

 

Everyone needs to eat, and in their job especially need to be rested, be alert and ready to go.

 

But i won't justify what I saw. Perhaps it was different time, but I would hope that now such things simply wouldn't occur and that procedures are in place to safely allow a member to leave the station, and that they would be more discreet in picking up a takeaway.

[RJ Fan club]

So they shouldn't eat? Or they should only eat stuff you consider to be appropriate?

That one was a joke. Lighten up

[matt1983]

That one was a joke. Lighten up

Fair enough, hard to tell on the Internet.

[Cardie]

Varying circumstances granted but it's not like trivial things like this never happen.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1535035/Pcs-dash-to-Chinese-takeaway.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3544793/Police-officer-gets-parking-ticket-leaves-riot-van-disabled-bay-BURRITO.html

[matt1983]

Don't get me wrong I genuinely don't care what they do. But public perception and being seen to be disciplined, clean and fair is important. Otherwise they and all who serve get labelled the same.

 

Everyone needs to eat, and in their job especially need to be rested, be alert and ready to go.

 

But i won't justify what I saw. Perhaps it was different time, but I would hope that now such things simply wouldn't occur and that procedures are in place to safely allow a member to leave the station, and that they would be more discreet in picking up a takeaway.

That's all fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion of course. Personally I don't see why they should have to be discreet but each to their own.

 

I only got on my high horse because you called them cunts.

 

Hug?

[matt1983]

Varying circumstances granted but it's not like trivial things like this never happen.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1535035/Pcs-dash-to-Chinese-takeaway.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3544793/Police-officer-gets-parking-ticket-leaves-riot-van-disabled-bay-BURRITO.html

I won't give these websites clicks but judging by the links it looks like the old bill are finally interacting positively with ethnics minorities.

[RJ Fan club]

That's all fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion of course. Personally I don't see why they should have to be discreet but each to their own.

 

I only got on my high horse because you called them cunts.

 

Hug?

Cunts was a throw away comment, not a fine moment I grant you, but it's so ubiquitous here I never gave it a second thought. I'll rescind that.

 

TBH, I don't think it looks good to be in uniform or using a seriously expensive piece of kit to fetch your dinner. Rock up in an unmarked car, I'm sound.

 

I've worked for government for years, such use of resources is just not good PR.

 

I'll hug, but keep your hands to yourself like!

[matt1983]

Cunts was a throw away comment, not a fine moment I grant you, but it's so ubiquitous here I never gave it a second thought. I'll rescind that.

 

TBH, I don't think it looks good to be in uniform or using a seriously expensive piece of kit to fetch your dinner. Rock up in an unmarked car, I'm sound.

 

I've worked for government for years, such use of resources is just not good PR.

 

I'll hug, but keep your hands to yourself like!

I'm a married man, I'll take any chance I can for a fondle to be honest.

[Charles Penrose]

Varying circumstances granted but it's not like trivial things like this never happen.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1535035/Pcs-dash-to-Chinese-takeaway.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3544793/Police-officer-gets-parking-ticket-leaves-riot-van-disabled-bay-BURRITO.html

There's an absolute chasm between people parking illegally or speeding and people sticking blue lights on and driving on the wrong side of the road.

[Cardie]

There's an absolute chasm between people parking illegally or speeding and people sticking blue lights on and driving on the wrong side of the road.

I'm more than happy to go with your cancelled call theory.

 

As others have said with similar stories it's a cheeky fuckers rather than filthy pigs reaction.

[Carvalho Diablo]

My next door neighbour's a copper.

[General Dryness]

My old mans a dustman.

[Curly]

I remember on bommie night when I was about 15 the fire brigade were on strike and the army were standing in. A green goddess stopped outside hunts cross chippy and one went in for chips and told them to make it quick as they were on their way to a fire.

  

Most of the fights are around the chippies and kebab shops to be fair.

Absolutely howling laughing at these.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

My next door neighbour's a copper.

 

One of my mates is an ex copper (the bloke with MS) and his brother still serves. Every time my mate has a party there are at least 4 or 5 serving officers there, decent blokes but they all drink and drive. Our daughters boyfriends father is also a copper pretty high up in the Bielefeld criminal police department and he also fucking drinks and drives. 

[Hades]

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[Section_31]

One of my mates is an ex copper (the bloke with MS) and his brother still serves. Every time my mate has a party there are at least 4 or 5 serving officers there, decent blokes but they all drink and drive. Our daughters boyfriends father is also a copper pretty high up in the Bielefeld criminal police department and he also fucking drinks and drives.

My uncle was at Speke police station once in the late 90s reporting something and mentioned he lived in Widnes and the desk sergeant said he hated Cheshire police.

 

He said the reason was that they used to play each other in darts tournaments and that when they came to Liverpool they would get 'escorted home' on the roads by a patrol because they were pissed up.

 

He said when they visited Cheshire they were about to get in their cars and an inspector said he'd have them arrested but they all started laughing, and he said 'no, I mean it'.

[Rico1304]

One of my mates is an ex copper (the bloke with MS) and his brother still serves. Every time my mate has a party there are at least 4 or 5 serving officers there, decent blokes but they all drink and drive. Our daughters boyfriends father is also a copper pretty high up in the Bielefeld criminal police department and he also fucking drinks and drives.

 

Then report them.

[Charles Penrose]

When I joined in 2003 it was more common than it is now. I've known three people sacked for it whereas back then you'd lose your license but keep your job.

 

There are rumours about one lad I know but nothing confirmed. He'll get his in the end. A few years ago I got let down for a lift home on a Christmas do. It was -5 and I was shitfaced. I ended up sleeping in the back seat of my car with my keys stashed under a brick in someone's front garden over be road. The 'drunk in charge' offence can be a real bitch to defend.

[VladimirIlyich]

One of my mates is an ex copper (the bloke with MS) and his brother still serves. Every time my mate has a party there are at least 4 or 5 serving officers there, decent blokes but they all drink and drive. Our daughters boyfriends father is also a copper pretty high up in the Bielefeld criminal police department and he also fucking drinks and drives.

I noticed a generally more liberal attitude to drinking and driving in Germany when I have been over there,but it has been ten years since my last visit so maybe attitudes have changed since then.

[Captain Turdseye]

One of my birds mates has been a copper in the Met for nearly 20 years and a big part of her job is searching the houses of suspected terrorists and nonces. Some of the things she's told me, specifically about the paedos, make me realise it's not something I could ever do.

[Captain Turdseye]

I'd have a constant hard on.

[Paul]

Leader of black police officers warns against Taser rollout proposals

 

After Dalian Atkinson death, Black Police Association president says Taser use damages cohesion and will not stop terrorism

 

The Guardian

Anushka Asthana and Jamie Grierson

Wednesday 17 August 2016

 

The president of the National Black Police Association has expressed concern about the disproportionate use of Tasers against ethnic minorities in the wake of the death of former footballer Dalian Atkinson.

 

In an article for the Guardian, Janet Hills said it was too early to understand what had happened during the incident in Telford, West Mercia, which demanded a thorough investigation.

 

But she warned that black and ethnic minority people were three times more likely to be on the receiving end of the weapons when discharged by officers, according to official figures, and the situation is not improving.

 

Hills urged forces to resist calls for every officer in England and Wales to be given the option to be armed with a Taser in the face of the heightened terrorist risk.

 

She said large-scale attacks, such as those in Belgium and France recently, would not have been stopped by officers carrying Tasers, and while increased use felt like an easy option, “we must always be aware of the concern they are causing in communities already filled with mistrust and fear about their interactions with police”.

 

Atkinson, 48, died on Monday about 90 minutes after an incident outside his father’s home in Telford, Shropshire, involving two officers in which he was reportedly tasered three times.

 

The Liberal Democrats have accused the government of “sitting on a report” about the safety of Tasers that was completed for the Home Office in December but has not been published.

 

The independent inquiry, by the scientific advisory committee on the medical implications of less-lethal weapons (SACMILL), was commissioned after the death of Jordan Begley, a 23-year-old factory worker from Manchester, was linked to the use of a Taser last year. The Guardian understands that the study was completed in December but officials have claimed that it was not a formal assessment and was never intended to be a public report.

 

In her article, Hills questioned some of the assumptions about the safety of the “less lethal” weapons.

 

She said that as a police officer she had been told that Tasers would protect her colleagues and communities. “[i was told] that they could literally stop a raging bull, take down the strongest attacker and keep us safe. When first introduced, we were assured that they were the ‘soft’ option.”

 

But she said it was now clear that there had been a number of fatalities. “In a controlled environment, with medical care on hand and with a volunteer who is fit, healthy – and not on drink or drugs – everything does seem fine, but on the streets where officers patrol, that benign scenario rarely exists.”

 

Instead, she warned of mental health, drink and drug issues, with some of the factors being more prevalent in parts of the black and ethnic minority community.

 

“I still believe our best hope is to stick with the core of what we do best here in the UK, policing by consent, with support of the public and the communities that make up the UK.”

 

Asked about Hills’s comments, a Home Office spokesperson said: “It would be inappropriate to comment on an ongoing Independent Police Complaints Commission investigation [into Atkinson’s death].”

 

Sources have suggested that the findings of the SACMILL report have been communicated to police forces across the country, but not the full study.

 

The National Police Chief’s Council, which saw the report, said: “On the basis of the evidence available to the committee at that stage, SACMILL’s opinion was that the current medical statement on the Taser X26 system remains applicable.”

 

However, the group did take action in response to the findings. “SACMILL also made some comments and in light of these observations, the NPCC has reinforced that police forces pay particular attention to specific training on the use of Taser in confined spaces, including use of angled drive stun; the preferred target area of probes attaching ‘above and below the belt line’, and understanding the difference in probe spread when firing from a ‘straight arm’ and a ‘braced hip’ position.

 

The Lib Dem home affairs spokesman, Alistair Carmichael, said it was disgraceful that the report had not been made public in the face of more fatal incidents.

 

“The Home Office cannot afford to waste any more time and must publish this report immediately. Any delay will be seen as a betrayal not only of the British public but of the police, who need to learn lessons so this never happens again.

 

“Tasers might be a good alternative to an armed police force, but the UK prides itself on policing by consent and their place in a police officer’s toolkit has, rightfully, come into question.”

 

SACMILL is responsible for ongoing assessments of the medical implications of Taser use, and does publish those on its website. However, the inquiry was a separate piece of work done after the NPCC asked the committee to review its assessments in the wake of Begley’s death.

 

Sources said ministers were committed to giving officers the tools they needed when facing potentially violent situations. But they said accountability was critical, pointing to Chief Constable David Shaw’s in-depth review that called for the publication of data on ethnicity, age, location and outcome of all Taser use. They said the deployment of the weapons was an operational matter for chief officers.

 

There have been at least 17 deaths linked to the use of Tasers since they were introduced in 2003.

 

In July 2014 the Independent Police Complaints Commission found that none of the eight deaths it had completed investigating at the time was directly caused by Tasers. Since those investigations were completed, there have been nine more Taser-linked deaths.

 

On Tuesday a 23-year-old man was Tasered after Metropolitan police stopped the car he was driving. The man was taken to hospital by ambulance as a precaution.

 

He was arrested on suspicion of possession of a firearm after a search of the car recovered what is believed to be a Mac10 machine pistol and ammunition. He was later discharged from hospital and taken into custody at a south London police station.

[littletedwest]

I'm pretty soft but think I'd lose my rag with nonces, domestic violence and those conmen who rip off people stringvest went to school with