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Just now, Skidfingers McGonical said:

But they aren't illegal. 

 

So any protest should be banned? Including protests around Black Lives Matter?

I agree with you about the protests but think the people involved (whether it's anti-lockdown or BLM) since March are dickheads.

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1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Where you saying the same after all the BLM protests? Genuine question. 

I thought they were disgraceful to gather in large numbers but the majority had masks on at least. 

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I asked you how you would feel if I said the same kind of thing about you that you've been saying about me. Quite disingenuous to claim that I was actually saying it.

The only disingenuous one here as usual is you now fuck off. 

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1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

How is that policed? 

You arrest the fuckers, deny them bail until the trial and fine them. See how they feel after 12 weeks pissing in a bucket in Belmarsh and a £1,000 fine. God I’m turning into a daily mail leader writer but this self centred thoughtlessness is really pissing me off now. 

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10 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

The guidance is clear. Stay at home unless it’s work or going to the shops to buy food. It’s not fucking rocket science. People see mass protests on the telly and they think well if those cunts can go out and meet up without any sanction then so can I. This will never end if we all think it doesn’t apply to us. 

 

But nor will it ever end if it's sort of OK to have a BLM protest during a pandemic, and not OK to protest about being forced to stay in your homes during a pandemic.

There are always double standards, mostly fuelled by either side of politics, that fuck-over fairness and equanimity and equivocal action.

 

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1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

The only disingenuous one here as usual is you now fuck off. 

 

You're one cheeky little get. I'm having to take my fiancee for a hospital appointment with a specialist today for which she was referred last August. I know you know this, because you negged me when I mentioned it the other day.

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9 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Where you saying the same after all the BLM protests? Genuine question. 

Yes.

 

Anything that creates huge crowds with people spreading the virus shouldn't be allowed for as long as thousands are dying.

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My wife's mother died of cancer in July.

My wife and daughter got there with three days to spare to see her die.

And were then stuck in Ireland for three months trying to get home.

Meanwhile, my son and I were here on the other side of the world, in hard lockdown.

And I lost my job.

Do I win 5 pounds?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

You're one cheeky little get. I'm having to take my fiancee for a hospital appointment with a specialist today for which she was referred last August. I know you know this, because you negged me when I mentioned it the other day.

Oh did I? Show me where because I had zero fucking idea she was seeing a specialist today and how that is relevant I really fail to see???  You might also remember I was one of the only ones showing any concern on here when she injured herself. Cheeky little get? After your behaviour on here you have zero right to call anyone that. Go and fuck yourself you snivelling little fart. 

 

Good luck to the Mrs. 

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3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

This needs to be a militant 6 week full lockdown. Any protest marches should be dealt with properly and by that I mean the lot thrown in fucking jail. 

 

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11 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

But nor will it ever end if it's sort of OK to have a BLM protest during a pandemic, and not OK to protest about being forced to stay in your homes during a pandemic.

There are always double standards, mostly fuelled by either side of politics, that fuck-over fairness and equanimity and equivocal action.

 

Where have people on here been saying that? 

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Just now, Bjornebye said:

Where have people on here been saying that? 

I was making a general point, not accusing people on here of saying something.

 

The world is not contracted thus, Stig.

 

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2 minutes ago, skaro said:

I was making a general point, not accusing people on here of saying something.

 

The world is not contracted thus, Stig.

 

Oh right. Away from here I saw condemnation of BLM as well. As was pointed out , the majority at least wore masks but they still shouldn't have been congregating. I also saw a lot of the protests that did have social distancing. 

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Just now, Bjornebye said:

Oh right. Away from here I saw condemnation of BLM as well. As was pointed out , the majority at least wore masks but they still shouldn't have been congregating. I also saw a lot of the protests that did have social distancing. 

 

And that's my point.  Away from here, I saw a lot of approbation.  A lot.

 

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3 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

And that's my point.  Away from here, I saw a lot of approbation.  A lot.

 

I'm sure that was for the actual cause as opposed to their socially congregating and helping spread the virus. But you know that. 

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5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I'm sure that was for the actual cause as opposed to their socially congregating and helping spread the virus. But you know that. 

 

No.

I saw Black Lives Matter protesters being turned a blind eye to - being called "unhelpful" at worst.

And, obversely, I saw a pregnant woman arrested in handcuffs in her home here in Victoria for saying on her social media that people should protest against lockdown.

 

Please don't tell me what I know or don't, Stig... you're a sound lad.

 

 

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Any sort of mass gathering in the middle of a pandemic is stupid and should be actively discouraged. 

 

But, I'd suggest that a BLM protest is likely to be a bit safer as I've seen claims and bits of evidence to indicate that the participants were distancing and wearing masks. However, there's probably a big overlap between anti-lockdown/5g/anti-vaxxer protestors and those who generally deny the existence/effects of Covid. So I doubt that masks and distancing would be the order of the day at a conspiracy theorist protest. 

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People should be allowed to protest whenever and however they like without the threat of jail. You start going down that road and soon you'll have no ability to protest. 

 

To think this kind of action would only apply during a lockdown is naive at best 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Any sort of mass gathering in the middle of a pandemic is stupid and should be actively discouraged. 

But, I'd suggest that a BLM protest is likely to be a bit safer as I've seen claims and bits of evidence to indicate that the participants were distancing and wearing masks. However, there's probably a big overlap between anti-lockdown/5g/anti-vaxxer protestors and those who generally deny the existence/effects of Covid. So I doubt that masks and distancing would be the order of the day at a conspiracy theorist protest. 

 

In other words, it's more OK than other types of protests, in LOCKDOWN.

Double standard for some that, I respectfully contend.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, skend04 said:

People should be allowed to protest whenever and however they like without the threat of jail. You start going down that road and soon you'll have no ability to protest. 

 

To think this kind of action would only apply during a lockdown is naive at best 

 

 

You actually think that in the middle of a global pandemic that is killing people, large congregations should gather and protest about it knowing full well that they are potentially (extremely likely) spreading the virus further and prolonging the misery for everyone including those who are abiding by the rules? 

 

I absolutely support the right to protest but in this instance they should all be fucking shot in my opinion. 

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4 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

In other words, it's more OK than other types of protests, in LOCKDOWN.

Double standard for some that, I respectfully contend.

 

 

Yes. That's right. If you read the highlighted line alone. And ignore the couple of sentences above it. 

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You actually think that in the middle of a global pandemic that is killing people, large congregations should gather and protest about it knowing full well that they are potentially (extremely likely) spreading the virus further and prolonging the misery for everyone including those who are abiding by the rules? 

 

I absolutely support the right to protest but in this instance they should all be fucking shot in my opinion. 

Yes. The right to protest is not an absolute right and can be departed from in a time of emergency. People just need to start behaving like adults. 

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9 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Yes. That's right. If you read the highlighted line alone. And ignore the couple of sentences above it. 

 

Mate, yes, we all agree that protests in lockdown are "dangerous", covid-wise.

 

But you're saying the BLM ones are safer than others.

 

Antifa thugs are safer than far-right thugs.

Protests and looting after Trump's election win were safer than protests and looting after Biden's election win.

 

Two legs good, four legs better.

 

We have double standards, based on our political leanings.  Simple.

 

Now, an end to my bollocksy conjecture.

 

Lockdown it is.

 

 

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I don't think the virus cares or even knows what your cause is, so for that reason I cannot see how any public gathering/protest can be declared safe under a lockdown. If they could then surely we would currently be at the match each week watching our team as clubs would bend over backwards to make a stadium the safest environment they could. 

 

 

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