Freedom of speech

[Anubis]

Trouble at the free Yaxley-Lennon demo. Who'd have predicted that.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I generally agree with that post, but I'm a picky cunt so I'm going to argue about those examples.

 

Ghostbusters and Ocean's Eight are not remakes and the characters are not male.

 

Now, Fiona Shaw as Richard II or Maxine Peake as Hamlet; that's definitely a case of casting women in traditional male roles.

Not remakes, but certainly taking a film and making it again with women. Why not just write a new, significantly better story?

[Rico1304]

Some really good points made over the last 2 pages. I nearly repped Hades at one point but I’m not pissed enough.

[Rico1304]

The role of the straight man is ingrained in show business

 

Just ask Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Rock Hudson etc etc

[Pidge]

Not remakes, but certainly taking a film and making it again with women. Why not just write a new, significantly better story?

 

Because franchise connections give shareholders confidence.  Why not just not give a shit if the new iteration/development isn't for you.  You still have the old ones.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Not remakes, but certainly taking a film and making it again with women. Why not just write a new, significantly better story?

That would involve Hollywood coming up with something both good and original. Apparently, that's asking too much. It's much easier to take an old idea and put a gimmicky twist on it.

[Rico1304]

That would involve Hollywood coming up with something both good and original. Apparently, that's asking too much. It's much easier to take an old idea and put a gimmicky twist on it.

But surely you vote with your feet and don’t watch it. The mere existence of the film can’t annoy you surely.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Because franchise connections give shareholders confidence. Why not just not give a shit if the new iteration/development isn't for you. You still have the old ones.

Confidence in that massive failure. I didn't like the old ones either, I just dislike the shoehorning.

[Rico1304]

Confidence in that massive failure. I didn't like the old ones either, I just dislike the shoehorning.

Not what your Grindr profile says.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

But surely you vote with your feet and don’t watch it. The mere existence of the film can’t annoy you surely.

True.

 

The absence of good films annoys me a bit, but not hugely. I've never been a big cinema-goer anyway.

[SasaS]

For me, acting roles should go to the people most suitable for the role. If you are a good actor and can pull  off a role of a transgender person (you are physically suitable) then there should be no problem with that.  I really don't understand why transgender actors should not play other roles if they can, why should they play only transgender people, or why should we care how many roles there are for them if they just want to play

transgender people?

 

That transgender character in Billions, I didn't like it at first because I though here we go, shoehorning topical stuff into the show, but I changed my mind because the character really works and the actor / actress can act. This person is apparently transgender in real life. At the same time, it's obvious that you would naturally refer to "they" as she, because of mostly feminine physique.  So "she" could definitely play female roles, especially slightly off-beat ones. 

[TheHowieLama]

If you have a wiener - you are he. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

If you have a wiener - you are he.

This is incorrect.

[TheHowieLama]

No its not

[TheHowieLama]

Unless you mean a stitched on wiener. Stitched on wieners are difficult.

 

If you can fertilize an egg you are a he?

[Strontium]

It depends if you subscribe to discredited old ideas about gender or not, which I see you do.

[TheHowieLama]

Yea -- innies and outies -- science.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

We're all on a spectrum, both gender and sexuality-wise.

 

Race as a social construct is the flimsiest of all though.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Yea -- innies and outies -- science.

That's not what real science says.

[TheHowieLama]

That's not what real science says.

 

In humans - really?

[Rico1304]

Because you don’t feel ‘right’ as a man or woman doesn’t mean you are the opposite. Because you can’t ‘know’ what it’s like to be the other.

 

But who gives a flying fuck if you want to live as the other or anything in between? As long as you’re happy and don’t hurt anyone else fucking crack on. I’ll call you the pronoun you want (within reason, I’m not a memory man) and anyone insisting on using the wrong pronoun is a cunt.

 

There’s loads to be sorted out around protecting women from predatory men pretending to be women for access to ‘safe spaces’ but sensible people must be able to manage it.

[TheHowieLama]

But who gives a flying fuck if you want to live as the other or anything in between? As long as you’re happy and don’t hurt anyone else fucking crack on. I’ll call you the pronoun you want (within reason, I’m not a memory man) and anyone insisting on using the wrong pronoun is a cunt.

 

 

Agreed 

[moof]

Because you don’t feel ‘right’ as a man or woman doesn’t mean you are the opposite. Because you can’t ‘know’ what it’s like to be the other.

 

But who gives a flying fuck if you want to live as the other or anything in between? As long as you’re happy and don’t hurt anyone else fucking crack on. I’ll call you the pronoun you want (within reason, I’m not a memory man) and anyone insisting on using the wrong pronoun is a cunt.

 

There’s loads to be sorted out around protecting women from predatory men pretending to be women for access to ‘safe spaces’ but sensible people must be able to manage it.

It’s not about what you feel, it’s fucking genetics ya idiot.

[Hades]

It’s not about what you feel, it’s fucking genetics ya idiot.

If you take the genetics line, you could just as easily argue it's mental illness, given the rates of kids that change their mind.

[Rico1304]

It’s not about what you feel, it’s fucking genetics ya idiot.

I’d agree if my daughter got into boxing/martial arts and faced a transgender women - but again, there’s got to be a sensible solution.