Ledley King

[fowler9]

anyone else think he is vastly overrated and not get the fuss about him?

 

sure he is a decent defender, but nowhere near this Franco Baresi like world class player people say he would've been had he stayed fit and no way should he start for England over Carra or go to a world cup when he can barely even train (surely that sort of treatment should be reserved for the likes of Stevie and Rooney) and i dont think he should even be in the Tottenham starting line up when Woodgate is fit.

 

On top of all that he seems a bit of a cunt as well, just needed something to talk about other than our depressing club

[Steve Holt]

Based on how well he has played this season when fit he should 100% be starting over Carra. Don't let Liverpool bias get the better of you. I still don't quite understand why Capello took Carra if I'm honest. He had a really bad season broken up by a few fair-decent performances.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Thought i was going to end up reading that he'd broke Terry's leg in training.

[RobbieOR]

I dont rate him at all. He's an alright defender and he plays for a London club and harry Redknapp so he's bound to be built up by the press.

[Steve Holt]

Although I do agree that the English press rates him a little too highly. But that's the English press and a Black, southern English footballer.

[Pidge]

No, he is a top class defender. He was never rated when young and has earnt his reputation by taking his opportunities and performing well, especially for England for whom he is invariably impeccable.

[J-V]

Very overrated and will be shown up in the coming weeks like he was against Mexico recently.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

If he'd avoided injuries he'd be nearing 100 England caps now I reckon. Seriously talented footballer, but he can barely play more than a game a week. I read Crouch's book a few months ago, he reckons King is the most naturally gifted defender he's ever played with.

[RobbieOR]

Although I do agree that the English press rates him a little too highly. But that's the English press and a Black, southern English footballer.

 

Yeah but the situation with Black players isnt the same as it was when Digger was breaking through.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Capello is a good manager, i'll trust his judgement as far as Kings inclusion goes. No doubting the lad is very talented, just got to hope his fitness holds out.

[Dicko]

No, he is a top class defender. He was never rated when young and has earnt his reputation by taking his opportunities and performing well, especially for England for whom he is invariably impeccable.

 

Except in his last game when I thought he was shite personally.

[Mathewbet1]

It's the king and mongo from now on.

[Guest TK-421]

It goes with the territory playing for Spurs. Anyone half decent is the best player ever their position (e.g Berbatov).

[Barnesey]

Based on how well he has played this season when fit he should 100% be starting over Carra. Don't let Liverpool bias get the better of you. I still don't quite understand why Capello took Carra if I'm honest. He had a really bad season broken up by a few fair-decent performances.

 

Carra was a bit iffy in the first half of the season but ended it as good as ever. Cant see how you can base a defence on a guy who is guaranteed not to be available for all the important games at the end of the competition. A bit of consistency is a must in central defence.

 

I think King was taken to step in for Rio if he had to miss a game; can't be first choice

[zigackly]

I think he's a very good defender but his career has been ruined by dodgy knees.

[Adebisi]

I think if it wasn't for injuries, King and Woodgate would be the best paring in England. King's knee is meant to be pretty much bone on bone or something crazy like that. No cartilage whatsoever. To still perform at the level he has with knees like that show how talented he is.

 

Twice the player Ferdinand is tbh.

[Ted]

Good player.

[WaltonRed]

He's shit.

[DPW]

No!! Crazy post! He's brilliant! Top class defender. Agree with the point about Woodgate as well, he's another top top top player who would have been one of the best in his position if it wasnt for his injuries.

[DPW]

He's shit.

 

Behave. Have you ever watched him play?

[WaltonRed]

Behave. Have you ever watched him play?

 

No!! Crazy post! He's brilliant! Top class defender. Agree with the point about Woodgate as well, he's another top top top player who would have been one of the best in his position if it wasnt for his injuries.

 

I have.

 

He's a crap pro, who's a cripple yet he's appluaded for basically doing fuck all in the week and then playing a match all the while picking up thousands of pounds.

 

If he played for someone other than Spurs the media (london based) wouldnt give a shit about him.

[Juan Galonso]

He is good but he is no Paul McGrath.

[DPW]

I have.

 

He's a crap pro, who's a cripple yet he's appluaded for basically doing fuck all in the week and then playing a match all the while picking up thousands of pounds.

 

If he played for someone other than Spurs the media (london based) wouldnt give a shit about him.

 

Ha, you really dont rate him then??!

 

Im really that influenced by what the media say, you can find anything to fit your own agenda. But I think he's pretty awesome to be honest.

[fowler9]

No!! Crazy post! He's brilliant! Top class defender. Agree with the point about Woodgate as well, he's another top top top player who would have been one of the best in his position if it wasnt for his injuries.

 

 

fair enough i've just never seen this brilliance in him a lot of others do, but judging by this thread i'd say its 50/50 amongst us lot

 

I think Woodgate is brilliant, a fit Woodgate would be brilliant at the World Cup and would've started ahead of Ferdinand anyway if it was up to me, i wish we had signed him on loan at the time he went to Boro, purely hypothetical given we have no gaffer and every penny must be spent on players we can rely on to play but if we could get Woodgate for a cut price say £3.5million due to his injuries i would snap their hands off in the hope we could get him fit

[gkmacca]

At his best he's looked very good to me, but he's so seldom been at his best - and fit - it's hard to judge him. He's certainly been over-hyped this season just for playing - Hansen played through the pain barrier, whilst only training very lightly, for years because of his bad knees, yet King is depicted as some kind of medical marvel.