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Russia v Ukraine


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4 hours ago, SasaS said:

And we are still waiting to hear what would that deal be and how it would benefit the global security to (presumably) push Ukraine to allow Russia win and show that look, land grabbing invasions work and are perfectly fine because defending you country against foreign invasion is "unwinnable" and costs your allies tax payers money. 

 

When that is posted on Twitter you may indeed see it.

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More bollocks from Gnasher.

 

Ukraine's goal wasn't to win a war, its goal was to survive and not have Kyiv flattened and its leaders replaced by some kremlin stooge.

 

"Ah look at these poor Ukrainian lads being sent to their deaths', well yeah that's sadly what happens when you're invaded like. I'm sure the raf lads in the battle of Britain didn't much fancy being shot down either.

 

The yanks who spout this stuff are probably on the payroll like half the republican party is.

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20 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

More bollocks from Gnasher.

 

Ukraine's goal wasn't to win a war, its goal was to survive and not have Kyiv flattened and its leaders replaced by some kremlin stooge.

 

"Ah look at these poor Ukrainian lads being sent to their deaths', well yeah that's sadly what happens when you're invaded like. I'm sure the raf lads in the battle of Britain didn't much fancy being shot down either.

 

The yanks who spout this stuff are probably on the payroll like half the republican party is.

 

Not bollocks at all. I'm being proved totally correct. Unlike the Sgt Dobermans above.

 

Your comparison with world war 2 fighter pilots is ridiculous. Some in Ukraine are partying on Odesa beach some are swimming rivers to escape. That's not my opinion, simple facts. It's in the BBC link provided. 

 

 

If you think I'm talking bollocks any comment on that or the other links (guardian, reuters) provided? Or are they talkin bollocks?

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Your comparison with world war 2 fighter pilots is ridiculous. Some in Ukraine are partying on Odesa beach some are swimming rivers to escape. That's not my opinion, simple facts. It's in the BBC link provided.

People have been dodging drafts since time began. This war isn't any different.

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50 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Not bollocks at all. I'm being proved totally correct. Unlike the Sgt Dobermans above.

 

Your comparison with world war 2 fighter pilots is ridiculous. Some in Ukraine are partying on Odesa beach some are swimming rivers to escape. That's not my opinion, simple facts. It's in the BBC link provided. 

 

 

If you think I'm talking bollocks any comment on that or the other links (guardian, reuters) provided? Or are they talkin bollocks?

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw

 

https://theconversation.com/former-king-wanted-england-bombed-and-an-anglo-german-alliance-archives-reveal-42666

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1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

Can someone quote the last post - can't see it.

 

If you have someone on ignore you can still press a button to see individual posts if you so desire.

 

I'd have thought a man with your sparkling intellectual prowess might have worked that out all by yourself tbh. Or maybe you're being a bit of a drama queen in that post calling out for help from your mates? 

 

Ask them again. 

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Just now, Section_31 said:

 

Just now, Gnasher said:

 

If you have someone on ignore you can still press a button to see individual posts if you so desire.

 

I'd have thought a man with your sparkling intellectual prowess might have worked that out all by yourself tbh. Or maybe you're being a bit of a drama queen in that post calling out for help from your mates? 

 

Ask them again. 

 

Indeed they have. The corruption on over match dodging over Ukraine does not bere resemblance with fighter pilots in world war 2. Zelensky sacked his chief recruitment officer over it. 

 

Now what about the other links?

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2 hours ago, SasaS said:

You are certainly keeping the thread alive.

Well I've posted links to reports Reuters, the BBC and others. So I'm not "keeping the thread going' out of thin air. You can obviously agree or disagree. You posted reports from Fred or whoever on Facebook. Which is fine, he seemed genuine and I liked the posts.  

 

Do you disagree with the links posted today? Any comment? Or are you going to call us your buddies and make snide comments at the poster,

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5 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Not bollocks at all. I'm being proved totally correct. Unlike the Sgt Dobermans above.

 

Your comparison with world war 2 fighter pilots is ridiculous. Some in Ukraine are partying on Odesa beach some are swimming rivers to escape. That's not my opinion, simple facts. It's in the BBC link provided. 

 

 

If you think I'm talking bollocks any comment on that or the other links (guardian, reuters) provided? Or are they talkin bollocks?

 

 

What's been proved correct? Did you predict that people would dodge the draft?

 

I thought the comparison was  good one tbh.

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There's a lot of rhetoric around stalemates etc, I think people forget that modern war looks like this. The widespread use of drones and technology mean you can't just sneak 200 tanks behind the lines.

 

People's expectations aren't realistic in how slow things can move. If ukraine had been properly armed and supported we'd not be hearing any of this in the media etc.

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5 minutes ago, TheSire said:

What's been proved correct? Did you predict that people would dodge the draft?

 

I thought the comparison was  good one tbh.

 

Really? I'm not so sure.

 

Anyways the stuff on other links tbh (not twitter) are what some have been saying for a fair while. 

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32 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Remember when P9utin created a new law to compbat massive draft dodging?

It was in all the papers.

 

Yeah  it was. Working class kids dodge going to war and getting killed, shock!!,, but we wer are  not talking about Russia, we were talking about a BBC report on kids from Ukraine.

 

 

Should the BBC (not twitter) not put out the report? 

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29 minutes ago, TheSire said:

There's a lot of rhetoric around stalemates etc, I think people forget that modern war looks like this. The widespread use of drones and technology mean you can't just sneak 200 tanks behind the lines.

 

People's expectations aren't realistic in how slow things can move. If ukraine had been properly armed and supported we'd not be hearing any of this in the media etc.

 

You or your family go out there, to the Donbass?

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12 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Yeah  it was. Working class kids dodge going to war and getting killed, shock!!,, but we wer are  not talking about Russia, we were talking about a BBC report on kids from Ukraine.

 

 

Should the BBC (not twitter) not put out the report? 

Obviously they can but you seem to get really excited at any negative press. I don't think I've ever seen any balance from you.

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