Russia v Ukraine

[SasaS]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Anything happen in 2014? 

 

[Gnasher]

 

 

 

 

 

[TheSire]

21 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

Nice cat

[TheSire]

[Gnasher]

41 minutes ago, TheSire said:

Nice cat

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Half price to mugs like you. 

[TheSire]

4 hours ago, Gnasher said:

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Half price to mugs like you. 

Can't even post a URL properly you fat gimp.

[Gnasher]

5 hours ago, TheSire said:

 

How fucking old are you? I notice your concerns don't stretch to other parts of the world. Wonder why? Can't 'qwhite' put my finger on it.

 

Now fuck off you're fucking boring me.

 

 

[TheSire]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

 

How fucking old are you? I notice your concerns don't stretch to other parts of the world. Wonder why? Can't 'qwhite' put my finger on it.

You're a fucking weirdo. Basically anyone who doesn't post much on the Israel Palestine is a massive racist? Are you Owen Jones?

[TheSire]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/14/german-journalist-putin-hubert-seipel

 

[Red Phoenix]

On 13/11/2023 at 11:06, SasaS said:

Ukraine is not caught in the middle. It is being invaded by Russia, for the third time since 2014. After centuries of mostly unsuccessful attempts to emancipate itself from Russia and its imperialism. The US is just partly an opportunistic player here, partly defender of US-dominated world order. Which is, by the way, still better than the world order Russia, Iran, North Korea etc would like to see.

 

The "US dominated world order" is mostly just countries with majorities of white people in North America and Europe trying to impose the greed of US corporations on the rest of the planet, most of the people in the world aren't interested and it's caused more carnage in our lifetimes than anything else has. You don't have to support Russia, Iran or North Korea to see that.

 

The world needs something better than the shit the US gov and those that blindly follow are currently serving up. Maybe if a US admin tries working in a more co-operative way with other countries outside of the G7 and Nato instead of obsessing over militarism, coups and sanctions we might get closer to something that's a lot better than what we currently have.

[TheHowieLama]

47 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

we might get closer to something that's a lot better than what we currently have.

 

Don't "we" live in the UK?

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

Don't "we" live in the UK?

 

I meant we as in Humans. If the US gov wasn't so obsessed with militarism, coups and sanctions there'd be less people suffering around the world.

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I meant we as in Humans. If the US gov wasn't so obsessed with militarism, coups and sanctions there'd be less people suffering around the world.

 

It was plainly obvious what you meant, yet he's quick to pull up other posters.

 

 

 

[SasaS]

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The "US dominated world order" is mostly just countries with majorities of white people in North America and Europe trying to impose the greed of US corporations on the rest of the planet, most of the people in the world aren't interested and it's caused more carnage in our lifetimes than anything else has. You don't have to support Russia, Iran or North Korea to see that.

 

The world needs something better than the shit the US gov and those that blindly follow are currently serving up. Maybe if a US admin tries working in a more co-operative way with other countries outside of the G7 and Nato instead of obsessing over militarism, coups and sanctions we might get closer to something that's a lot better than what we currently have.

 

That is mostly the post WWII and post Cold War world, as it exists.

[Red Phoenix]

9 hours ago, SasaS said:

That is mostly the post WWII and post Cold War world, as it exists.

 

Eisenhower warned people about the military industrial complex and technocrats in his farewell address in 1961, if his message had been taken more seriously maybe we'd not be in such a mess.

[SasaS]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Eisenhower warned people about the military industrial complex and technocrats in his farewell address in 1961, if his message had been taken more seriously maybe we'd not be in such a mess.

 

Where is that complex when you need it? 

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, SasaS said:

Where is that complex when you need it? 

 

A bit overstretched at the moment I think.

[Bjornebye]

On 30/03/2022 at 16:02, SasaS said:

 

I said nobody ever deliberately targets hospitals. When hospitals get hit, there are always accusations it was deliberate. How did it turn out I was wrong?

 

On 30/03/2022 at 22:40, SasaS said:

 

You think that a good way to end an invasion is for the invaded country to lose and that would then bring peace? As in, everybody would just go home, including Russia?

 

Interesting takes from @SasaS 

[Strontium]

18 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

I meant we as in Humans. If the US gov wasn't so obsessed with militarism, coups and sanctions there'd be less people suffering around the world.

 

Well yes, because there'd be less people in the world.

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

Interesting takes from @SasaS 

 

Imagine how many more you will find on the next 200 pages.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, SasaS said:

 

Imagine how many more you will find on the next 200 pages.

 

Oh plenty not just from you. 

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, Strontium said:

Well yes, because there'd be less people in the world.

 

US militarism, coups and sanctions have led to a lot of lives lost in recent decades, if they'd not been so obsessed with it things could've been a decent bit better at the moment. I'm not saying they should've sat back and not done a thing if parts of the world got out of control (instead of interfering to further their own interests), the US at the moment though seems to be half ran by corporations and lobbyists and the world doesn't seem to be any safer because of it.

[TheSire]

https://mipl.org.ua/en/currency-for-wagner-where-did-the-fighters-from-the-58th-brigade-go/

[SasaS]

Mediazona updated their count of Russian casualties in Ukraine with 1272 new names identified over the past two weeks, which is about a 30 percent rise compared to previous two fortnights, which they attribute to the increased number of obituaries from the Avdivka offensive. The number is close to highest figures for the entire war, after the weeks at the very beginning.

 

The total is now 37.052 which is normally seen as 40 to 60 percent of the actual number.

 

Other highlight is 14 new names of KIA officers higher than the rank of major, which is explained with Ukrainian missile attacks on Russian naval and air-force bases in the past weeks and months.

 

In Russian, English link not up yet.

 

https://zona.media/casualties

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

Russian artist Alexandra Skochilenko, who had replaced price tags with anti-war messages in a St. Petersburg grocery store as an act of protest, was sentenced to seven years in jail by a court in the Russian city on Thursday.

 

The prosecution claimed that in March last year, Skochilenko “placed paper fragments containing deliberately false information about the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in places for attaching commodity price tags” in a chain supermarket in St. Petersburg.

Despite Skochilenko pleading not guilty to the charge and the defense seeking acquittal, the court imposed a seven-year sentence with a three-year ban on activities related to using “electronic or information and telecommunication networks,” the press service said in a Telegram post.

 

Skochilenko has been kept in pretrial detention since April 2022, a period of time in which her health has been deteriorating, according to the independent investigative newspaper Novaya Gazeta.