Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Any threat to our national security.

 

Such as?

[magicrat]

Latest picture of the actual Article 50 trigger

 

[Gnasher]

It undeniably helps to promote prosperity, peace and individual freedom.

 

Go read some history.

It really does not undeniably help no such thing.

 

Your history books should tell you that.

[Gnasher]

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/a-lesson-from-the-1975-referendum/

[Gnasher]

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/294714/the-euro/

[cloggypop]

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/a-lesson-from-the-1975-referendum/

But we must recognise that the European Community has now set itself the objectives of developing a common foreign policy, a form of common nationality expressed through a common passport, a directly elected assembly and an economic and monetary union which, taken together, would in effect make the United Kingdom into one province of a Western European state.

 

It was written 42 years ago and still hasn't happened.

[cloggypop]

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/294714/the-euro/

We aren't in the Euro

[Gnasher]

But we must recognise that the European Community has now set itself the objectives of developing a common foreign policy, a form of common nationality expressed through a common passport, a directly elected assembly and an economic and monetary union which, taken together, would in effect make the United Kingdom into one province of a Western European state.

 

It was written 42 years ago and still hasn't happened.

 

A common foreign policy" seems to be working well.

 

A form of nationality" well it's certainly stoked up the the right wing loons.

 

 

A common passport" travel at will to your point of slavery

[njackets]

Such as?

It's getting tedious mate do you have a point?

[njackets]

But we must recognise that the European Community has now set itself the objectives of developing a common foreign policy, a form of common nationality expressed through a common passport, a directly elected assembly and an economic and monetary union which, taken together, would in effect make the United Kingdom into one province of a Western European state.

 

It was written 42 years ago and still hasn't happened.

Without a shadow of a doubt a remain vote would of made it happen!

[AngryOfTuebrook]

It really does not undeniably help no such thing.

 

Your history books should tell you that.

You think it's just coincidence that European countries with a centuries-long history of aggressive competition leading to wars just decided not to slug it out with each other, around the same time that they joined the EU?

 

OK.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/294714/the-euro/

"Joseph Stiglitz argues that Europe's stagnation and bleak outlook are a direct result of the fundamental flaws inherent in the euro project - economic integration outpacing political integration with a structure that promotes divergence rather than convergence."

 

So, are you arguing for closer cooperation now?

[njackets]

You think it's just coincidence that European countries with a centuries-long history of aggressive competition leading to wars just decided not to slug it out with each other, around the same time that they joined the EU?

 

OK.

How many troops did the EU have in Bosnia and Kosovo?

[skend04]

How many troops did the EU have in Bosnia and Kosovo?

The EU doesn't have an army. It was a civil war based on historical and ethnic divides, not trade. Peace has been kept and changes made in the region because of the drive and incentive to join the EU.

[Lee909]

Without a shadow of a doubt a remain vote would of made it happen!

Maybe if it stopped us soending billions dropping bombs on the middle east and following America into every filucking cinflict going it would have been a good thing. How many billions did we spend dropping bombs in Syria in the past couple of years and exactly what did it achieve?

 

We can find money for bombs

We can find money for trident

 

But wont put amy money into healthcare,schools(unless they are free schools),social housing

 

Its almost like the government has an agenda against keeping anything like social care and wants to privatised everything and keep there arms manufacturing buddies doing well

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

It's getting tedious mate do you have a point?

 

My point is, do you? You throw 'national security' out as an advantage when we've hardly been at war or involved in any threats due to our inclusion in the EU. You have failed to mention a single example as to how we would be 'safer' and what we would be safer from. That's because the Daily Heil didn't go into detail, did it?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

How many troops did the EU have in Bosnia and Kosovo?

I'm talking war between about Member States.

[Plev]

Seeing as NJackets likes sharing good news brexit stories, here's another.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39261974

[VladimirIlyich]

Seeing as NJackets likes sharing good news brexit stories, here's another.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39261974

Lack of skilled workers to make bath salts and fizzing soap bombs? I think somebody's taking the fizz.

[magicrat]

Anything else come up whilst gazing into your Crystal ball?

 

Not to waste my time debating with people that think they're infallible,     

[stringvest]

Not to waste my time debating with people that think they're infallible,

To be fair to NJ, I'm sure he doesn't think he is.

[Rico1304]

Liam Fox says we need to 'deregulate the UK' - so, minimum wage, maternity pay, holiday pay could be up for grabs.

 

Now, who was it who argued that a few months ago???

 

Here's the quote...

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Cunt.

 

That's one Fox I would cheerfully hunt with a pack of dogs.

[stringvest]

He needs to be shopped the slimy little rent-boy adopting corrupt sleazebag.  I'm telling you, that cunt is going to be booted out of public life in disgrace before too long.  

[njackets]

The EU doesn't have an army. It was a civil war based on historical and ethnic divides, not trade. Peace has been kept and changes made in the region because of the drive and incentive to join the EU.

Doesn't have an Army yet! So the answer is zero then?