Callow,cowardly,inspiration sucking Benitez

[Cardie]

I don't see why it bothers you, to be honest.

 

Because this false idea is held up as the bar to be reached.

[Brownie]

Their league positions haven't been identical though. Wenger and Rafa's nearly have.

 

I thought you were one of the ones that think trophies are everything, so why can't Rafa be described as being better in the last 6 years than Wenger?

 

Because looking at the overall picture in the last six years, i'm of the belief that he isn't?

 

It's worth a debate but to say that one manager has done better than another purely based on one fact, isn't logical, especially when you move the goalposts when the theory is proven to be flawed.

[Brownie]

Because this false idea is held up as the bar to be reached.

 

Not by me it isn't. Unfortunately, it's probably the Mancs who hold the bar.

[Torvald Utne]

That's just not true though is it. Arsenal have played better and more effective football under Wenger. He's won the league with it.

 

Did I say the whole season? Did I? DID I?! Arsenal won the league as they were more consistent over 38 games. We had a rubbish patch but the football we played towards the end was better than anything I've seen from Arsenal.

 

You really must try to concentrate when reading.

[Brownie]

Did I say the whole season? Did I? DID I?! Arsenal won the league as they were more consistent over 38 games. We had a rubbish patch but the football we played towards the end was better than anything I've seen from Arsenal.

 

You really must try to concentrate when reading.

 

I think we were absolutely superb in the run in to last season, but if i'm being totally honest, I think Arsenal's unbeaten team was better in terms of football.

 

They were just awesome, every week.

[goatboy59]

Should have is hardly an argument though, is it?

 

In 2002 they picked up 87 points. Again from 1 more win that we got last season.

 

2002 was also the first time Wenger got over 80 points. His 6th season.

 

Rafa has already achieved that twice.

Clutching now.

 

98 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 - either 1st or second, mostly playing excellent football after donkey's years of Hoof (oh the irony).

 

Rafa doesn't compare, doesn't come close to be honest.

[Cardie]

Clutching now.

 

98 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 - either 1st or second, mostly playing excellent football after donkey's years of Hoof (oh the irony).

 

Rafa doesn't compare, doesn't come close to be honest.

 

Two team league with a clutch of teams taking it in turns to be the third wheel (barring the odd anomaly)?

[Iantn]

Clutching now.

 

98 99 00 01 02 03 04 05 - either 1st or second, mostly playing excellent football after donkey's years of Hoof (oh the irony).

 

Rafa doesn't compare, doesn't come close to be honest.

 

Point being the competition is massively different now so it's lazy to compare it.

 

Wenger's, like Rafa's, lack of trophies during the last few years however is more of something worth comparing.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

Their league positions haven't been identical though. Wenger and Rafa's nearly have.

 

I thought you were one of the ones that think trophies are everything, so why can't Rafa be described as being better in the last 6 years than Wenger?

 

Because that just wouldn't be cricket now, would it?

[goatboy59]

Two team league with a clutch of teams taking it in turns to be the third wheel (barring the odd anomaly)?

 

Now who's using smoke and mirrors?

[Cardie]

Now who's using smoke and mirrors?

 

Dunno, who?

[goatboy59]

That just sounds like a Manc saying our titles are worthless because QPR Watford and Southampton came second!

 

Or the European Cups where we beat Zurich and Bucharest.

[Iantn]

Who's mentioned any trophy being "worthless"?

[Cardie]

Was more quizzical than cold hard fact.....I'm right though, the footballing landscape of the premier league was different then, and has and will continue to change as more and more mega rich billionaires buy up clubs.

 

We're edging close to a situation in Russia where every few years there's a new super club as a new billionaire takes over (Dinamo Moscow, Spartak, CSKA, Zenit now Rubin are the new top dogs)

[ReddOrDedd]

Honestly, Rafa's choice to leave Aquilani out of the side is ridiculous and certainly one that will not be forgiven. Fucking shithouse didn't even have the balls to bring him on in the second half.

 

My precious point.

 

 

 

 

No need to bring Moyesy into this.