Liverpool enter talks with Saudi Arabian and Qatari consortiums over a potential £3BILLION takeover

[Section_31]

Like a new owner.

[lifetime fan]

FSG will save Liverpool millions in transfer fees. 

[Reckoner]

This is like me coming off Tinder after I get no matches.

[TheHowieLama]

A complete fuckin RiS Up.

[Captain Howdy]

Henry the unflushable turd. Really looking forward to the summer when we can’t sign Bellingham because of oil states and the market isn’t right, Diaz is like a new signing and the following summers window will be massive. 

[Captain Howdy]

2 hours ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

I will await the summer investment…….

Spot on

[Chip Butty]

Are we there yet

[FrenchEyeGlass]

On 18/02/2023 at 04:32, Captain Willard said:

Totally agree. The club is a profit making entity in the entertainment business, owned by a hedge fund, pays its employees millions, sells shirts at a 200% plus markup to cost  and makes a tiny token contribution to local charities. It doesn’t look much like socialism to me. 

 

Spot on. And in regards to paying their employee's millions, only the football players and executives mind. For all the "FSG saved Liverpool" bollocks, I wonder how well paid any of the locally sourced staff get paid. Fuck all. Par for course for a football club maybe, but them sportswashing cunts have done far more for the city of Manchester than FSG have ever done for the city of Liverpool.

 

It's sad how many Liverpool fans have fallen, or previously fell, for FSG's propaganda. And it is propaganda - well organized and strategic PR. 

[Jairzinho]

Great news. Not for us like, but decent for the rest of the league.

[Aventus]

4 hours ago, Lee909 said:

I reckon they've held off selling for 2 reasons. The possible super league idea returning and to see how City are punished(They won't be with the mancs likely selling out to oil states and Chelsea spending). They'd be pissed if either the champions league was expanded to more epl teams or a breakaway league happened as they'd lose alot of money 

This is my thoughts. They won't sell when there's a couple of things in the pipeline that could dramatically increase the value of their asset in the near future. 

[an tha]

They can point to their model working over last 5 years with the trophy haul.

 

It is better than those clubs who have outspent us like Man Utd, Arsenal et al.

 

But the challenge now looks like it is changing - our rivals are aggressively spending at a new level - it has gone up and looks to be heading to new levels, and as a result those around us have improved and seem to be improving rapidly.....We have arguably sat on our hands somewhat, and regressed - we've failed to address problems/refreshed certain parts of squad enough and now we need to invest in the squad and heavily.

 

The big question is will FSG do what they need to? - What happens if no investment in club is found? - Is the investment needed in the squad happening dependent on securing investment in the club? And if so why?

[Jose Jones]

32 minutes ago, an tha said:

They can point to their model working over last 5 years with the trophy haul.

 

It is better than those clubs who have outspent us like Man Utd, Arsenal et al.

 

But the challenge now looks like it is changing - our rivals are aggressively spending at a new level - it has gone up and looks to be heading to new levels, and as a result those around us have improved and seem to be improving rapidly.....We have arguably sat on our hands somewhat, and regressed - we've failed to address problems/refreshed certain parts of squad enough and now we need to invest in the squad and heavily.

 

The big question is will FSG do what they need to? - What happens if no investment in club is found? - Is the investment needed in the squad happening dependent on securing investment in the club? And if so why?

 

Everyone knows and has known since they arrived that FSG's main interest is increasing the value of their asset, and that the best we as fans could hope for is that our interests aligned enough because successful clubs are generally worth more, attain higher commercial deals, etc. etc.

I'm not sure why some people think the fans are going to try to hound FSG out - no-one is shocked by their behaviour.

 

FSG could easily afford to invest more in the team - they could have paid for all, or some, of the ground works themselves, rather than having that all come out of the clubs coffers.  

That they chose not to do this, is a bit of a poor investment decision in my view, as we were only small amounts of extra funds away from totally cementing an historical run of success under the best manager they're likely to ever appoint.  I think it would have paid dividends for them in the long run.

 

Ergo, the only minority investors FSG are likely to get will be those who approve their approach, and then the "investment" is just going to go into FSG's pockets as return for them - unless @Barrington Womble's report about them looking for people with "new ideas", is code for people with inside access to inflated middle eastern commercial deals.

 

[TheHowieLama]

8 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

a poor investment decision in my view, as we were only small amounts of extra funds away from totally cementing an historical run of success under the best manager they're likely to ever appoint.  I think it would have paid dividends for them in the long run.

Real;ity is a quadruple winning LFC is worth exactly the same as it is now - that is why they didn't do anything.

 

Leicester won the league a few years back - do you think it markedly increased their value?

[Heinze]

They won't sell and they won't release the funds for Bellingham.

[Kevin D]

[Jose Jones]

37 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Real;ity is a quadruple winning LFC is worth exactly the same as it is now - that is why they didn't do anything.

 

Leicester won the league a few years back - do you think it markedly increased their value?

Maybe that's how they looked at it, if so I would disagree.  I also think they would reduce the risk of the value of the club going down (e.g. dropping out of the CL for a season or two) with a bit more prudent investment.

And yeah, I reckon winning the league totally increased Leicester's value.  The fella paid £39 million for them in 2010, they were valued at £436 million the season after they won the league.

[El Dangerous]

Probably better in the long run for them to sell us off piece by piece. 20% now at whatever value they have us at then use that money to grow their product then sell a bit more for even more in another 5 years. It’s a great strategy, if you’re hedge fund wankers. 

[BeefStroganoff]

What a pathetic way to address the situation at the club. A couple of half arsed lines in a Red Sox interview after months of speculation. Half arsed like their care and ownership.

[Bjornebye]

  

 

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[Barrington Womble]

9 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

 

Everyone knows and has known since they arrived that FSG's main interest is increasing the value of their asset, and that the best we as fans could hope for is that our interests aligned enough because successful clubs are generally worth more, attain higher commercial deals, etc. etc.

I'm not sure why some people think the fans are going to try to hound FSG out - no-one is shocked by their behaviour.

 

FSG could easily afford to invest more in the team - they could have paid for all, or some, of the ground works themselves, rather than having that all come out of the clubs coffers.  

That they chose not to do this, is a bit of a poor investment decision in my view, as we were only small amounts of extra funds away from totally cementing an historical run of success under the best manager they're likely to ever appoint.  I think it would have paid dividends for them in the long run.

 

Ergo, the only minority investors FSG are likely to get will be those who approve their approach, and then the "investment" is just going to go into FSG's pockets as return for them - unless @Barrington Womble's report about them looking for people with "new ideas", is code for people with inside access to inflated middle eastern commercial deals.

 

The guy didn't suggest this and made reference to Redbird. So I imagine they're looking for another fund or SPAC that has ideas how to grow (well unless there's a sovereign fund willing to overpay today for the whole thing). Let's remember, their growth aims are revenue based, not trophy based. If we look at Chelsea for example, it seems impossible to think there was a way for a non-state funded club to spunk 600m across 2 windows. But clearly they've had a plan when they bought Chelsea and are now executing it. It remains to be seen if this was a prudent way to do business (I think not btw), but the point is as American interest grows in the sport, more and more people with big pockets are looking for ways they can make a killing out of it. FSG are trying to find one of them imo. 

 

Edit.... It's also worth looking at what could happen if things don't go well and you don't get CL football. Arsenal for example according to Forbes were worth $1.9bn in 2017 and $2bn last year. So even without playing in the CL and a pandemic thrown in the middle, there's no massive loss or anything over 5 years. Arsenal really couldn't have got it more wrong in that period. Sure, if you're a billionaire, there's probably better places you could have put your money, but it's not been disasterous either. So for FSG (who used to champion the arsenal model), they've probably realised the worst thing that happens is they tread a bit of water if we consistently fail to get CL football. 

[Moo]

If we become unsuccessful, i.e. back to where we were before, odd cup win, intermittent qualification for the CL, due to their tight fisted ways then I hope the value of the club falls through the fucking floor (relatively speaking) and they lose out on a couple of billion.

Twats.

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

  

 

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What does Rod Stewart have to do with this?

[aws]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

 

What does Rod Stewart have to do with this?

He likes sailing and yachts? 

[El Dangerous]

Henry can stay in the summer.

[Bjornebye]

17 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

What does Rod Stewart have to do with this?

 

I don't want to talk about it