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[G Richards]

PS - When Salah scored that ace goal, the first one, and the camera panned to Rushie, Houllier and Kenny, there was something there that I really liked. 

 

I saw Kenny, arms aloft like when he used to score for us, and then he turned to his wife Marina, and they gave a high five - actually I think it was both hands, and they clasped for a second, in sheer joy. 

 

Marina and Kenny have been married over 40 years. They have been through a lot. His career. Kids. Hillsborough. Her illness. But they did it all together. And here they are, over 40 years into their marriage, high-fiving in a moment of sheer joy at Anfield. To me there's something that's absolutely special, and beautiful, in the best human sense, about the whole thing. 

[suzy]

PS - When Salah scored that ace goal, the first one, and the camera panned to Rushie, Houllier and Kenny, there was something there that I really liked. 

 

I saw Kenny, arms aloft like when he used to score for us, and then he turned to his wife Marina, and they gave a high five - actually I think it was both hands, and they clasped for a second, in sheer joy. 

 

Marina and Kenny have been married over 40 years. They have been through a lot. His career. Kids. Hillsborough. Her illness. But they did it all together. And here they are, over 40 years into their marriage, high-fiving in a moment of sheer joy at Anfield. To me there's something that's absolutely special, and beautiful, in the best human sense, about the whole thing. 

 

 

Well said. I must admit I was a bit shocked that was Rushie's other half and not his daughter!

[Kevin D]

Why did Brendan get so much stick about it openly on here?

I didn't think that was right, either.

[sir roger]

Why did Brendan get so much stick about it openly on here?

 

Short of pinching softlad's Harley , his behaviour couldn't have been any more cliched.

[magicrat]

Be nice to see the Arse get a twatting in Wengers last European home game

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I didn't think that was right, either.

Fair enough.

[dockers_strike]

Cannot decide if Arsenal have started well or Atleti have started shit.

[Chip Butty]

knobhead

[Chip Butty]

knobhead again

[VladimirIlyich]

PS - When Salah scored that ace goal, the first one, and the camera panned to Rushie, Houllier and Kenny, there was something there that I really liked.

 

I saw Kenny, arms aloft like when he used to score for us, and then he turned to his wife Marina, and they gave a high five - actually I think it was both hands, and they clasped for a second, in sheer joy.

 

Marina and Kenny have been married over 40 years. They have been through a lot. His career. Kids. Hillsborough. Her illness. But they did it all together. And here they are, over 40 years into their marriage, high-fiving in a moment of sheer joy at Anfield. To me there's something that's absolutely special, and beautiful, in the best human sense, about the whole thing.

Totally agree with this. It's always easier to walk away from your problems but Kenny and Marina have fought through them together and often in the public realm. Sheer class act,both of them.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Italian press (ANSA news agency) are saying that for the second leg Rome police are expecting up to 5000 Liverpool fans, with around 1000 of them "known to be dangerous."

 

Absolute bollocks. And the clear pretext to justify overzealous policing.

 

I wouldn't go if you offered to pay me. It's going to be absolute carnage.

[dockers_strike]

Italian press just stirring up shit for when their ultras kick off and say it was Liverpool fans who started it. They clearly do not know that most of the official 5000 going have to have been to a couple if not most European aways to get tickets for this. If there is a 1000 known trouble makers in this lot how come there has been no trouble reported in our away games beyond rough house policing away to Seville.

[G Richards]

PR battle begins. Awful.

[an tha]

No winning here is there....gonna be horrible. I can sadly see it actually going off in the ground like when the mancs were there with the italian police getting stuck in

 

Saldy whatever happens it will be all our fault in the eyes of fans of other clubs - and of course our corinthian neighbours.

 

Fuck 'em.

 

Just hope nobody is seriously hurt.

[Aventus]

No winning here is there....gonna be horrible. I can sadly see it actually going off in the ground like when the mancs were there with the italian police getting stuck in

 

Saldy whatever happens it will be all our fault in the eyes of fans of other clubs - and of course our corinthian neighbours.

 

Fuck 'em.

 

Just hope nobody is seriously hurt.

Pretty much.

 

Liverpool fans will get hurt, then when we complain afterwards it'll be the whole always the victims shouts from the usual cunts.

[Nasty Lizard]

Well, seeing as you're already here, on a scale of 10 to gargantuan, how much of a twat would you say B-Rod is?

 

just south of halfway..

[El Rojo]

Reading between the lines, even the club's official statement seems to say that they've had no satisfactory response to queries on safety measures.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/26/liverpool-roma-uefa-rome-officials-meeting-fans-security

[an tha]

Foreign clubs are generally much less interested in safety and looking to deal with issues than English clubs.

 

When there are then problems/misunderstandings/things go wrong because of a lack of communication and or clarity even down to simple things like bags in the ground the answer is usually heavy handed policing which revs people up which leads to tempers flaring and then more heavy handed policing.

 

It is a vicious circle...Wednesday will be a nightmare especially given the events of Tuesday.

[dockers_strike]

When we went in 84 we stayed about 20 miles outside Rome. First morning there we found our coaches trashed. That is the equivalent to visiting fans coaches parked up in Warrington being attacked the night before a game in Liverpool. We were then told there was a public transport strike on in Rome so could not get into the city until time to travel to the game. I have never experienced such hostility travelling to an oppos ground. Louts on scooters were kicking the coach on the way to the stadium. Near the ground we had to slow to a crawl going along crowded streets. apart from the verbal volleys we got there were kids and adults lobbing anything not tied down at the coach. And we were just fans not the official Liverpool team bus. I hope people going to Rome stay safe and urge them not to get separated or go off piste by themselves. Do not expect the police to protect you as they were worse than the ultras. Stay safe.

[G Richards]

I wonder if Liverpool FC could make an official statement, something like:

 

“Due to our concerns over fan safety, we regrettably advise Liverpool fans not to travel. Given the history of [outline Roma fans behavior here] and the incident last week [our thoughts are with Sean Cox] we reached out to officials to ensure the safety of our fans, but unfortunately a satisfactory response and plan has not been forthcoming. It is the last thing we want to do, but we feel we have no other choice, and in the interests of safety of our fans, we advise you not to travel. Reimbursement for tickets and travel will be made at [insert details here].

 

Due to the precedent we are setting down, we will of course be taking this matter up with UEFA with the goal of ensuring fan safety, not just for Liverpool fans, but all fans at UEFA tournaments. To that end we will seek minimum standards on policing and procedures around the match to ensure fan safety. We seek a clear protocol that gives consistency at all UEFA sponsored games so fans can travel and enjoy the match in safety.”

[Harry Squatter]

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Some Roma fans who attended the Champions League semi-final against Liverpool claimed the policing was “embarrassing” and they “feared being killed.”

 

A 53-year-old Liverpool fan was left in an induced coma after an attack by two Roma ultras, members of the notorious Fedayn group, who have been remanded in custody.

 

Rome-based Il Tempo newspaper gathered statements from various other Giallorossi supporters who made the trip to Anfield for the game and found the approach to security very different to what they were accustomed.

 

“I’ll never go to an away game in England again, because it’s not worth it if I have to fear being killed,” said Francesco.

 

“We had to club together in a sort of march towards the nearest taxi rank and the six or seven police officers accompanying us made us walk past the pubs frequented by our rivals.

 

“At the crossing with Everton Valley, five or six Reds fans jumped out and threw rocks and bottles at us. A couple of ours tried to defend themselves, but rather than block them, the police charged us.

 

“I found myself crushed up against a wall and thought ‘I’m either getting arrested or killed here.’ Then reinforcements arrived and in the end they took us up to the World Museum, 4.5km from Anfield Road.”

 

Giulio’s problems occurred even before the semi-final, as he claimed “all the taxis refused to take us on board” to reach the stadium.

 

“Once we got there, we found no police at all, just a couple of stewards. To reach the away section, we necessarily had to go under the Kop, so right in the middle of their fans. It was an incredible crush, there were a thousand of us in one little corner.”

 

Another fan, named Luca, said that at the entrance he “saw a supporter with blood coming down his face after a clash with other fans. It was just chaos and the security measures were bland at best. Contact between the sets of fans was inevitable.”

 

The Stadio Olimpico has two levels of security checks before anyone can enter the arena.

 

“The security checks in Liverpool were embarrassing,” Antonio was quoted as saying in the newspaper.

 

“There’s no filtering system, people with backpacks went in without anyone checking the contents, even the frisking was perfunctory. Compared to other stadiums in Europe, it’s all very relaxed – too relaxed, unfortunately.”

 

Stefano claimed he was “charged by police on horseback after accidentally going down the wrong road.”

 

A supporter called Marco felt trouble was inevitable with the lack of police presence in the city.

 

“During the day in the streets of Liverpool, I didn’t see a single policeman, which is crazy when the game is so high-risk. A friend of mine was punched and kicked, he ran off and asked a policeman to intervene, but was told to ‘go away.’

 

“So he got in a taxi, gave the driver £50 and convinced him to take him away from that hell-hole.”

[G Richards]

Very carefully chosen words there. Wall, crush, and the whole thing is seeking to lay down a marker for (intended, planned) bad bevaviour in Rome, and getting a preemptive strike in to lay the blame on the English.

[moof]

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Some Roma fans who attended the Champions League semi-final against Liverpool claimed the policing was “embarrassing” and they “feared being killed.”

 

A 53-year-old Liverpool fan was left in an induced coma after an attack by two Roma ultras, members of the notorious Fedayn group, who have been remanded in custody.

 

Rome-based Il Tempo newspaper gathered statements from various other Giallorossi supporters who made the trip to Anfield for the game and found the approach to security very different to what they were accustomed.

 

“I’ll never go to an away game in England again, because it’s not worth it if I have to fear being killed,” said Francesco.

 

“We had to club together in a sort of march towards the nearest taxi rank and the six or seven police officers accompanying us made us walk past the pubs frequented by our rivals.

 

“At the crossing with Everton Valley, five or six Reds fans jumped out and threw rocks and bottles at us. A couple of ours tried to defend themselves, but rather than block them, the police charged us.

 

“I found myself crushed up against a wall and thought ‘I’m either getting arrested or killed here.’ Then reinforcements arrived and in the end they took us up to the World Museum, 4.5km from Anfield Road.”

 

Giulio’s problems occurred even before the semi-final, as he claimed “all the taxis refused to take us on board” to reach the stadium.

 

“Once we got there, we found no police at all, just a couple of stewards. To reach the away section, we necessarily had to go under the Kop, so right in the middle of their fans. It was an incredible crush, there were a thousand of us in one little corner.”

 

Another fan, named Luca, said that at the entrance he “saw a supporter with blood coming down his face after a clash with other fans. It was just chaos and the security measures were bland at best. Contact between the sets of fans was inevitable.”

 

The Stadio Olimpico has two levels of security checks before anyone can enter the arena.

 

“The security checks in Liverpool were embarrassing,” Antonio was quoted as saying in the newspaper.

 

“There’s no filtering system, people with backpacks went in without anyone checking the contents, even the frisking was perfunctory. Compared to other stadiums in Europe, it’s all very relaxed – too relaxed, unfortunately.”

 

Stefano claimed he was “charged by police on horseback after accidentally going down the wrong road.”

 

A supporter called Marco felt trouble was inevitable with the lack of police presence in the city.

 

“During the day in the streets of Liverpool, I didn’t see a single policeman, which is crazy when the game is so high-risk. A friend of mine was punched and kicked, he ran off and asked a policeman to intervene, but was told to ‘go away.’

 

“So he got in a taxi, gave the driver £50 and convinced him to take him away from that hell-hole.”

Wow. Fucking wow

[an tha]

So which was it too relaxed or too heavy handed?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

“At the crossing with Everton Valley, five or six Reds fans jumped out and threw rocks and bottles at us. A couple of ours tried to defend themselves, but rather than block them, the police charged us.

 

“I found myself crushed up against a wall and thought ‘I’m either getting arrested or killed here.’ Then reinforcements arrived and in the end they took us up to the World Museum, 4.5km from Anfield Road.”

 

That bit is weird. Who talks like that? Particularly about a city they're probably not too familiar with?

 

It looks like somebody has looked at a map online so that they could mention places and distances to try and make the account sound more authentic.