Chase for the top 4

[Tyler Durden]

We shit the bed regularly, even more so when it actually matters. Given that the City and Utd can go well ahead of us and Arsenal draw level with us by wining their games in hand I'm gonna go with us shiting the bed.

[Denny Crane]

I'd long ago written off Arsenal but forgot the lengths Wenger will go to get top 4.

 

If you want a long long shot, you can 100-1 for spurs not to finish in the top 4. 

 

Last season they picked up 2 points from the last 4 games and a cup defeat to Chelsea could make them crumble. The season before I think they had a poor end to the season under Pochetino also.

 

Spurs have palace away next,  Hull away on the last day.  Arsenal and Manchester United at home , West Ham away and Leicester away. They have an excellent home record but only 2 of their last 6 are at home.  Their away record is not as good and one of their home games is up against a team who have the best ppg away record. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10804881/2006-remembered-The-food-poisoning-bug-that-cost-Tottenham-Hotspur-their-Champions-League-dream.html

[VladimirIlyich]

I don't care about a top 4 finish,its not 1st.

'Winning is everything,2nd.....3rd...and err,4th are nowhere.'

[JustTosh]

Some statistics for the “we must win the last 4 and even that may not be enough”-pessimists on here

 

Season 1999-2000 – 2015-2016 (17 last seasons):

 

Being 5^th and not qualifying for CL:

Highest points ever in period: Spurs (2013) and Everton (2014), 72 points

Average points for 5^th place: 64,47 points

 

Being 4^th and therefore qualifying:

Lowest points in period: Liverpool (2004), 60 points

Average points for 5^th place: 68,94 points

 

 

If we end on 73 points (2 wins –  1 draw - 1 loss) and don’t qualify for CL it will be a new PL record.

 

I do believe 73 points might not be enough this year, but I feel pretty confident 75 points will be enough.

 

So here we are. Win 3 out of the last 4 and we’re probably watching CL football on Anfield next season.

[Jairzinho]

Only nine points between 9th and 18th though, which suggests all of them (and probably West Brom as well really) are shite, and that it's not a "normal" season.

[ZonkoVille77]

I have no faith that they will win 2/4. They are as bad a let down as the blowy I got off the most beautiful girl I ever managed to get into bed with.

[setreal]

More like a chase of the top 4 for us now innit

[Priory Doctor]

I reckon Man Utd's fixtures are too tough and intense for them to win the necessary number of games.

Like Fanchester, I wouldn't be surprised to see Arsenal do their usual great run to a top four finish . They have to play Spurs, but don't Spurs usually shit themselves like Everton in Derbies.

[G Richards]

Interesting shout on Spurs and the possibility of them crumbling. It might happen, but I think they've done too much already to throw it away now. And their side seems to be growing in the usual sense - young ish team, solid defence, growing in resilience (consider all the points they picked up while Kane was out twice) and a good attack too.

 

Spurs will be fine, and if they implode a bit, I can't see them dropping further than third, with Man City going on a run to possibly pip them to second. Maybe.

 

I think a new points record will be required to finish top four this season. 76 will probably do it, so we need three wins and a draw. 75 will be touch and go given the increased competition this time. Arsenal will put a bit of a run together, but I think it will be too late for them. They might get past one of Liverpool or Man Utd, but I'd be very surprised if they got past both and finished top four.

[The Golden Eel]

I reckon Man Utd's fixtures are too tough and intense for them to win the necessary number of games.

Like Fanchester, I wouldn't be surprised to see Arsenal do their usual great run to a top four finish . They have to play Spurs, but don't Spurs usually shit themselves like Everton in Derbies.

 

No it's fairly even in recent years

[an tha]

Interesting shout on Spurs and the possibility of them crumbling. It might happen, but I think they've done too much already to throw it away now. And their side seems to be growing in the usual sense - young ish team, solid defence, growing in resilience (consider all the points they picked up while Kane was out twice) and a good attack too.

 

Spurs will be fine, and if they implode a bit, I can't see them dropping further than third, with Man City going on a run to possibly pip them to second. Maybe.

 

I think a new points record will be required to finish top four this season. 76 will probably do it, so we need three wins and a draw. 75 will be touch and go given the increased competition this time. Arsenal will put a bit of a run together, but I think it will be too late for them. They might get past one of Liverpool or Man Utd, but I'd be very surprised if they got past both and finished top four.

Arsenal got 79 to finish 4th in the year we nearly won it 2014

[ZonkoVille77]

We are generally 11/8 to finish outside of the top 4. If you've spare cash around then that's worth a bet. As much as it's heartbreaking to say it, but if we fail, winning a few quid on the back of it helps as a little sweetener.

[JustTosh]

Between the top 6 teams there are 4 matches left. I predict they’ll end:

MC – MU – Draw

Ars – MU - Ars win

Spurs – Ars – Draw

Spurs – MU – Spurs win

 

Situation IF they end as predicted:

 

MC: Max points possible: 80, if they win the remaining 5 games

MU: Max points possible: 73, if they win the remaining 3 games

Ars: Max points possible: 76, if they win the remaining 5 games

LFC: Max points possible: 78, if we win the remaining 4 games

 

I can understand why the bookies have us 2nd favourite to be among top 4. It's highly unlikely MC, MU and Ars will win all their total of 13 matches. Someone will loose points along the way. 

 

We 'll probably be top 4 on 75 points, and may very well quakify if we win 3 of our last 4 games,

[JustTosh]

Arsenal got 79 to finish 4th in the year we nearly won it 2014

Yep,

 

But they'd still be 4th on 73 points 

[Denny Crane]

Us and the two Manchester teams could all end up on 75 points.

 

Could GD play a factor at the end. This is the GD at present.

 

Liverpool GD + 28

MC. GD + 28

MU. GD + 26

[Chip Butty]

Are kid text'd me to tell me that we probably need to win all 4 of our remaining games to get in the CL and then he proceeds to tell me that even when we played shit-hot early part of the season, we didn't manage to win 4 league games on the bounce then, so how are we supposed to do it now!

 

Cheers bro. 

[Rorschach08]

Are kid text'd me to tell me that we probably need to win all 4 of our remaining games to get in the CL and then he proceeds to tell me that even when we played shit-hot early part of the season, we didn't manage to win 4 league games on the bounce then, so how are we supposed to do it now!

 

Cheers bro. 

We beat Leicester, Chelsea, Hull and Swansea in a row right at the start of the season but think that's the only time we've done it.

 

Edit. Actually, beat Boro, The Shite, Stoke and Man City in a row over Xmas as well.

[Chip Butty]

We beat Leicester, Chelsea, Hull and Swansea in a row right at the start of the season but think that's the only time we've done it.

 

Edit. Actually, beat Boro, The Shite, Stoke and Man City in a row over Xmas as well.

 

He's fuckin shit are kid isn't he.

 

 

Fuck all that statistical despondency, we're gonna fuckin do it! 

 

Catch the moon bring it down, can you moonwalk?

[TheBitch]

Tonight's result means I think we'll finish above Southampton.

[G Richards]

Arsenal got 79 to finish 4th in the year we nearly won it 2014

Fair do for the info. Didn't realize that.

[JustTosh]

Basic line is:

 

If MU wins on Thursday we may need more than 75p (3 more wins for us). If MC wins or even if it's a draw, 75 points are probably going to be enough. 

 

Match on Thurday is very important for us, We don't want MU to get 3 points from that.

 

If we get 78 points (4 more wins) there's a tehoretical chance both MU and MC will get 79, but that would mean all other results  going against us, almost a 1000/1 chance, 78 points will be enough to secure 4th and may very well be enoug to end 3rd.

[ZonkoVille77]

So, to sum it up, we're fuckin shite.

[Dave D]

Probably already been asked but cant be bothered trawling through.

 

What happens if United finish 4th and win the Europa? I take it theres no knock on effect so 5th qualify?

[G Richards]

Four teams in CL if the above happens. 

 

It only goes to five teams if they win the Europa and finish outside top four.  

[Dave D]

Im clutching at straws- I 99% know it wouldnt happen but was hoping there was some crazy Europa exclusive ruling.

 

Which there isnt.

 

Please fucking qualify lads- it will be a long long summer of what might have been