Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Jairzinho]

Kinnock Jr on Newsnight refusing to answer what Smith's policy re privatisation in the NHS is.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Kinnock Jr on Newsnight refusing to answer what Smith's policy re privatisation in the NHS is.

So now we have the grotesque chaos of a Labour MP - a Labour MP - unable to give a straight answer to that.

[Strontium]

It's often overlooked that the growth of privatisation in the NHS actually slowed under the coalition compared to the previous Labour government.

[razor]

So now we have the grotesque chaos of a Labour MP - a Labour MP - unable to give a straight answer to that.

 

Haha - ran out of rep, unfortunately.  Nice reference, Angry.

[Anubis]

Add to that, coiffed cunt Ben Bradshaw was on 5 Live saying he believes Corbyn sanctioned death threats.

[Neil G]

Add to that, coiffed cunt Ben Bradshaw was on 5 Live saying he believes Corbyn sanctioned death threats.

Which programme was this? I'd like to listen to that. Did he offer up any evidence?

[Anubis]

Which programme was this? I'd like to listen to that. Did he offer up any evidence?

Not sure. Somebody pulled him on Twitter. Looks like it was whatever programme was on between 10pm and 11pm judging by time of tweet. Here's the link.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/scottr0gers/status/755520658239528961

[VladimirIlyich]

Kinnock Jr on Newsnight refusing to answer what Smith's policy re privatisation in the NHS is.

Us this the one whose married to that Danish royal family member?

[Moctezuma]

It's often overlooked that the growth of privatisation in the NHS actually slowed under the coalition compared to the previous Labour government.

 

 In part because a lot of the easier functions for private business had already been sold off.

[Gym Beglin]

Not sure. Somebody pulled him on Twitter. Looks like it was whatever programme was on between 10pm and 11pm judging by time of tweet. Here's the link.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/scottr0gers/status/755520658239528961

For fucks sake.

 

this ability for Whitehall officials to say whatever they want needs to be stopped. I think the entire country is sick of the lies and the meta-lies that compound them. Incompetent doesn't cover it, not even close.

[Gym Beglin]

I don't mind the idea of charging a bit more for the NHS, I think people waste money on things everyday, so £100 here and there should be seriously considered.

[VladimirIlyich]

I don't mind the idea of charging a bit more for the NHS, I think people waste money on things everyday, so £100 here and there should be seriously considered.

We cant even get the wealthy to pay their income tax so yet again,any more 'stealth taxes' would fall onto ordinary people up to their neck covering current bills. Of course,as most sensible people know,under any tory government no extra money would get near its intended project without it either being skimmed or re-directed.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Add to that, coiffed cunt Ben Bradshaw was on 5 Live saying he believes Corbyn sanctioned death threats.

A few days ago, Angela Eagle was trying to blame Corbyn for every single tweet sent to his opponents.

 

A couple of days later, she was squirming and trying to excuse herself because she couldn't possibly be expected to be responsible for tweets sent from her own campaign office and retweeted on her personal account.

 

Strong and effective leadership!

[Hades]

Canary lying by omission, I see.

 

No better than the folk they criticise.

Intellectual dishonesty of the highest order. Do you ever get tired of your own just-world fallacy hypocrisy? I'd find it highly irritating.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I think even if you are a big supporter of Corbyn you cannot just pretend that there are now huge questions about competence, strategy and media management.

 

Even in the face of the opposition he has, it's not good. Many of the people highlighting his failings now are not the enemies of social democracy, they are disappointed supporters of it.

Sadly true, Mate. It all boils down to two choices. The first is a complete revolution in this country, the second is to get into power and implement as many policies as you can. I prefer the former, I expect the latter to be what the Labour Party try to do. If the can't get into power, it doesn't matter how good their intentions or manifesto seem. It's a waste of time and has allowed the Tories to get away with damaging everything this country has worked for after 1945.

[Strontium]

Intellectual dishonesty of the highest order. Do you ever get tired of your own just-world fallacy hypocrisy? I'd find it highly irritating.

 

Could we have your response in English, please.

 

In the meantime, let me explain my point in simple language.

 

The Canary article stated that "the majority of parliament (excluding the SNP and the Green party) are supportive of renewing Trident".

 

No mention of the Lib Dem MPs, all of whom are opposed to renewing Trident and who voted accordingly.

 

This marks The Canary out as a biased source with an anti-liberal agenda. I wipe my arse with them.

[Bobby Hundreds]

PMQs is an abomination. Corbyn doesn't quite get it, you can't play a game against people who have no interest in playing. It's merely a court for the Tories to get media soundbites. He should use his platform better but he won't. Against the entire media he has no chance but he does himself little favours when the opportunities arise. Labour is fucked with or without Corbyn, the only thing that can save it sadly is a charismatic leader and Labour possess none of those. Split and be done with it form new coalitions.

[ZonkoVille77]

Petition: Enhance democracy by ending corporate domination of the media https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/144416

[SammyAftershave]

Petition: Enhance democracy by ending corporate domination of the media https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/144416

 

906

 

It's only early.

[Gym Beglin]

Another day, another Tory austerity party, spending more time giving verbal abuse to a grey 67 year old man than explaining how she intends to solve ANY of the issues facing our society.

 

Can't imagine what motivates soldiers to fight for this country. Oh wait I can, a salary and pension. That bypasses the age old necessity of believing in the leaders.

 

I hope Teresa May's piss-flaps get infected.

[Jairzinho]

906

 

It's only early.

 

 

If it gets to a thousand Rupert Murdoch bursts in to flames.

[Anubis]

Quelle surprise?

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/755791495219863552

[Gym Beglin]

PMQs is an abomination. Corbyn doesn't quite get it, you can't play a game against people who have no interest in playing. It's merely a court for the Tories to get media soundbites. He should use his platform better but he won't. Against the entire media he has no chance but he does himself little favours when the opportunities arise. Labour is fucked with or without Corbyn, the only thing that can save it sadly is a charismatic leader and Labour possess none of those. Split and be done with it form new coalitions.

This won't last, and the Tories will underestimate that eventually.

 

Social media is in its infancy, believe it or not.

[ZonkoVille77]

Quelle surprise?

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/755791495219863552

It's just a game to them isn't it? Filthy cockroaches is all they are.

[Strontium]

Petition: Enhance democracy by ending corporate domination of the media https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/144416

 

That petition only makes reference to the print media, though. The one form of media in this country whose reach and importance is unambiguously declining.