Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

I've said nothing of the sort whereas you support Tory policy. So again, what is the employment or unemployment rates in the areas where these factories are located?

Why does the employment rates in them areas matter? Go on. 

 

I'll answer for you.

So unscrupulous cunts can pay people in those rundown areas less.

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

No Doritos at Sainsbury’s, off milk on display and now no ice cream or salad at KFC. If it carries on like this I’m moving to Bangladesh to improve my quality of life.

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

No Doritos at Sainsbury’s, off milk on display and now no ice cream or salad at KFC. If it carries on like I’m moving to Bangladesh to improve my quality of life.

 

 

We got chicken at our KFC in Khartoum, just sayin’…

[Gnasher]

3 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

We got chicken at our KFC in Khartoum, just sayin’…

I'm on my way.

[Gnasher]

56 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Where is it a Tory line fucko?

 

The only person on this whole forum supporting the only Tory policy of the last 3 elections is you, you dickhead. I've asked you to tell us the employment rates where these food production factories are because filling jobs is a bit more complicated than simply paying more money. So, fucko, what is the employment rate in these areas?

The general consensus is to agree with this shit? Really?

 

Lets have a quick re cap. The people working in these factory's are not paid if they take a break to go to the toilet. 

 

The owners of the factory are billionaires, the firms profits were 40 mil last year.

 

But because its in a run down area anything goes huh?

[skend04]

12 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

The general consensus is to agree with this shit? Really?

 

Lets have a quick re cap. The people working in these factory's are not paid if they take a break to go to the toilet. 

 

The owners of the factory are billionaires, the firms profits were 40 mil last year.

 

But because its in a run down area anything goes huh?

So you don't know then. 

[Moo]

19 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

The general consensus is to agree with this shit? Really?

 

Lets have a quick re cap. The people working in these factory's are not paid if they take a break to go to the toilet. 

 

The owners of the factory are billionaires, the firms profits were 40 mil last year.

 

But because its in a run down area anything goes huh?

Is anyone in here saying they support that approach? 

Or, is anyone in here suggesting that's the approach the billionaire owners are likely to take?

[Gnasher]

So a Liverpool forum appears to be shuffling between support for billionaire chicken factory owners over workers on minimum wage who are not paid for breaks? 

 

Is this where this forums political compass now stands? Numero was spot on the other week, this forum has really jumped the shark.

 

These people are little more than capitalist playboy cunts, 

 

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/harrowing-full-story-how-millionaire-15938623

[Moo]

Gnasher, do you genuinely struggle with seeing the whole picture? Or are you on a wind up?

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Moo said:

Is anyone in here saying they support that approach? 

Or, is anyone in here suggesting that's the approach the billionaire owners are likely to take?

I'm honestly not sure to be honest. Maybe a lot are playing the man and not the ball so it's making them fail to see the wood through the trees. 

 

What I do know is not one poster on this forum has came out and given support to those workers in those factories on minimum wage. 

[Moo]

3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I'm honestly not sure to be honest. Maybe a lot are playing the man and not the ball so it's making them fail to see the wood through the trees. 

 

What I do know is not one poster on this forum has came out and given support to those workers in those factories on minimum wage. 

What do you mean by support?

[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, Moo said:

Gnasher, do you genuinely struggle with seeing the whole picture? Or are you on a wind up?

Sorry why? 

[Gnasher]

10 minutes ago, Moo said:

What do you mean by support?

Well has anyone shown any empathy for the people in question on a minimum wage in difficult circumstances on this forum? The answer is a resounding no. 

 

Plenty of on the record support for billionaire capitalist scumbags though.

 

I suppose the readers of this forum will make of that what they will.

[Bruce Spanner]

18 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Well has anyone shown any empathy for the people in question on a minimum wage in difficult circumstances on this forum? The answer is a resounding no. 

 

Plenty of on the record support for billionaire capitalist scumbags though.

 

I suppose the readers of this forum will make of that what they will.

Be quiet you dimwitted cunt.

 

You know less about what ‘we’ do than you do about Brexit, so before you stick your size  7’s in kindly go fuck yourself.

 

You snivelling little shitweasle.

[Moo]

Just now, Gnasher said:

Well has anyone shown any empathy for the people in question on a minimum wage in difficult circumstances on this forum? The answer is a resounding no. 

 

Plenty of one the record support for billionaire capitalist scumbags though.

 

I suppose the readers of this forum will make of that what they will.

Where is the actual SUPPORT for billionaire capitalist scumbags?

You mostly post about wage rises on this, basically, Brexit thread and the benefits or lack thereof.  Most people do not anticipate many medium to long term benefits for the poorer in current society (I say current cos fuck knows what Britannia will look like in 30+ years) so you can't expect them to get the flags out for what they believe is a temporary upside to an otherwise very damaging project.

If it makes you feel better, I'm pleased that a few people have got a few more quid in their pockets right now, it's still not enough as far as I'm concerned, but I'm not going to pretend that I don't think they'll be worse off in the long run.

 

(and I don't think you get that last point, or you pretend not to, which is why I think you struggle to see the whole picture or are just on a wind up...or you have a really severe case of cognitive dissonance perhaps)

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Moo said:

Where is the actual SUPPORT for billionaire capitalist scumbags?

You mostly post about wage rises on this, basically, Brexit thread and the benefits or lack thereof.  Most people do not anticipate many medium to long term benefits for the poorer in current society (I say current cos fuck knows what Britannia will look like in 30+ years) so you can't expect them to get the flags out for what they believe is a temporary upside to an otherwise very damaging project.

If it makes you feel better, I'm pleased that a few people have got a few more quid in their pockets right now, it's still not enough as far as I'm concerned, but I'm not going to pretend that I don't think they'll be worse off in the long run.

 

(and I don't think you get that last point, or you pretend not to, which is why I think you struggle to see the whole picture or are just on a wind up...or you have a really severe case of cognitive dissonance perhaps)

Yeah whatever..

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Moo said:

Where is the actual SUPPORT for billionaire capitalist scumbags?

I was referring to tory boy and his mates saying well because they are in a rundown area bosses can pay and do what they like. 

 

It's capitalist nonsense.

1 minute ago, Moo said:

You mostly post about wage rises on this, basically, Brexit thread and the benefits or lack thereof.  Most people do not anticipate many medium to long term benefits for the poorer in current society (I say current cos fuck knows what Britannia will look like in 30+ years) so you can't expect them to get the flags out for what they believe is a temporary upside to an otherwise very damaging project.

If it makes you feel better, I'm pleased that a few people have got a few more quid in their pockets right now, it's still not enough as far as I'm concerned, but I'm not going to pretend that I don't think they'll be worse off in the long run.

 

(and I don't think you get that last point, or you pretend not to, which is why I think you struggle to see the whole picture or are just on a wind up...or you have a really severe case of cognitive dissonance perhaps)

 

[Arniepie]

4 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Well has anyone shown any empathy for the people in question on a minimum wage in difficult circumstances on this forum? The answer is a resounding no. 

 

Plenty of on the record support for billionaire capitalist scumbags though.

 

I suppose the readers of this forum will make of that what they will.

I know I've asked this before but is everyone on mimun wage seeing these huge increases, or is is just those sectors which are struggling with a shortage of staff?

[Arniepie]

Whatever happened to those fuck off trade deals we were going to sign with the us the minute we left The eu btw?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Arniepie said:

Whatever happened to those fuck off trade deals we were going to sign with the us the minute we left The eu btw?

Liz Truss is on the phone to the Taliban right now.

[Cockyroach]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

I was referring to tory boy and his mates saying well because they are in a rundown area bosses can pay and do what they like. 

 

It's capitalist nonsense.

 

Fuck off Degsy you thick cunt, have a beer an a spliff and calm down. The wage increases are consummate with the law of supply and demand and that, is that I'm afraid.

[Cockyroach]

7 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I know I've asked this before but is everyone on mimun wage seeing these huge increases, or is is just those sectors which are struggling with a shortage of staff?

The latter, supply an demand

[Cockyroach]

6 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Whatever happened to those fuck off trade deals we were going to sign with the us the minute we left The eu btw?

We've got our country back, that should be enough, apparently 

[Gnasher]

More on those nice people at the top of the uks chicken plants.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/27/2-sisters-food-boss-steps-down-following-meat-production-scandal

 

Some on here may argue that because most of these hell holes are situated in poor areas a blind eye should be turned to the poor pay and poor working conditions inflicted on the employees who work in them.. Well unfortunately for you, unfortunately for them but fortunately for the rest of us the political and economic veiws of the younger generation embraces socialism which means working practices like those I've highlighted on this thread to be one big almighty no-no.

 

https://www.bigissue.com/latest/social-activism/nearly-70-of-young-people-want-socialism-and-no-they-wont-grow-out-of-it/

 

No doubt the lack of chicken at fast food joints will be lazily put at the door of brexit when the obvious answer is for these hire em fire them firms to get with the times and pay more wages and improve working conditions.

 

Bottom bullet point sums it up

 

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/chicken-shortage-uk-nandos_uk_611e2cb2e4b0e5b5d8e6ca33

 

 

Heres the FT journo planting the hammer firmly on the head of the nail, 

 

 

[Gnasher]

Good, give the poor bird the year off,

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/19/chicken-producers-brexit-staff-supply-shortages-uk-immigration-jobs-eu?__twitter_impression=true

 

A more accurate appraisal would be billionaire boss of 2 sisters refuses to up pay rates to fill vacancies in meat farms, resulting in shortage of poultry.

 

Tucked away at the bottom of that article   " the working conditions are awful and the pay is worse" which as always brings us back to the solution bellow,