Torres mega-thread

[waiting game]

Are we making him stay?

 

I fucking would. He's irreplaceable.

 

He's only irreplaceable when hes good, when he sulks he is average at best! Can you honestly see him giving 100% to us now? He doesnt want to be here and we are forcing him.

 

Whats all this "verbal intimidation" shit about?

[Whelan]

I think it is only fair to point out that for the first three years of his stay with us John Barnes was (if my memory is correct) pretty open about his desire to play in Italy! If Milan had of bid for him he would have been off.

[Glen C]

The thing is it's so obvious that chelski are in decline and all their players are past their best so why the hell go there? He won't win any major trophies at Chelsea for a long time.

[PaulMcC]

He's only irreplaceable when hes good, when he sulks he is average at best! Can you honestly see him giving 100% to us now? He doesnt want to be here and we are forcing him.

 

Whats all this "verbal intimidation" shit about?

 

I haven't read anything about verbal intimidation.

[PaulMcC]

The thing is it's so obvious that chelski are in decline and all their players are past their best so why the hell go there? He won't win any major trophies at Chelsea for a long time.

 

Looks like Roman's got his interest back. They're bidding for all sorts of players for massivemoney. Aguero, Luiz, Torres.

[waiting game]

I haven't read anything about verbal intimidation.

 

He has supposedly told the BBC that he wants to leave Liverpool due to his "treatment" and "verbal intimidation"

 

Ill see if i can find link. 2 ticks

 

(NO scrap that, its the BBC gossip section and it appears to have orignally come from the sCum)

 

Sorry about that lads.

[looneylen2]

yeah well that picture says it all really...How many of those fans will be chanting for him ?? All of them if he signs I bet.

[Bobby Hundreds]

We haven't got the time to get another top class striker in, so its a no brainer, he's staying. He can put up and shut up.

[PaulMcC]

He has supposedly told the BBC that he wants to leave Liverpool due to his "treatment" and "verbal intimidation"

 

Ill see if i can find link. 2 ticks

 

Verbal intimidation form who?

 

I can understand the treatment bit. The club treated him and our good players like cunts for years.

[Joe Le Taxi]

He's only irreplaceable when hes good, when he sulks he is average at best! Can you honestly see him giving 100% to us now? He doesnt want to be here and we are forcing him.

 

Whats all this "verbal intimidation" shit about?

 

Even when he was average, such as last season he was still banging them in.

 

Verbal intimidation form who?

 

I can understand the treatment bit. The club treated him and our good players like cunts for years.

 

I think it's harsh to blame the whole club. The owners were screwing everyone over and the club was suffering as a whole rather than a few individuals.

[WrongIslander]

yeah well that picture says it all really...How many of those fans will be chanting for him ?? All of them if he signs I bet.

 

Much as I'd love to join on the chelski bashing, how many of us would chant for Drogba if he came the other way? I know I would even though I hate the tit he's a world class player who I'd welcome here for what he'd bring to our attack.

[Fugitive]

We have a certain game on the 6th Feb that has suddenly taken on a new edge.

[dave u]

Let's not forget Purslow's role in all this.

 

Or is he still a hero?

 

What did you want him to do? In the summer he had two choices. Let Torres go, or try and persuade him to stay. Had we sold him, Purslow would have been seen as the bad guy, asset stripping for the yanks. The money would have disappeared, and who knows, maybe we'd have ended up with G&H staying.

 

But no, he persuaded him to stay, but only after agreeing to put in a £50m release clause. I love how people say Purslow 'inserted the clause' in the contract. Like it was his idea and poor little Fernando had no choice but to go along with it? Torres' people insisted on it, and Purslow agreed because he wanted him to stay and probably because he hoped that when the club was sold Torres would be happier and wouldn't want to go even if someone met the clause.

 

The only part Purslow played in this was appointing Hodgson, but even that isn't that significant as Torres was unsettled before Hodgson, and even now Hodgson has gone he still wants out. He's walking out on Kenny Dalglish, which to me tells me he would walk out on any manager.

[Moo]

His leaving is inevitible and has been since it was clear (under our shite former manager) that we weren't finishing fourth.

I can understand what he's thinking, go now rather than see out another 6 months at LFC with virtually nothing to play for, as we will not be relegated and we will not finish fourth.

From the club's point of view we should stand firm and should only agree to sell him now if the offer is at least equal or better than what we could expect to sell him for in the summer, i.e. at least the alleged £50m clause.

[Moo]

What did you want him to do? In the summer he had two choices. Let Torres go, or try and persuade him to stay. Had we sold him, Purslow would have been seen as the bad guy, asset stripping for the yanks. The money would have disappeared, and who knows, maybe we'd have ended up with G&H staying.

 

But no, he persuaded him to stay, but only after agreeing to put in a £50m release clause. I love how people say Purslow 'inserted the clause' in the contract. Like it was his idea and poor little Fernando had no choice but to go along with it? Torres' people insisted on it, and Purslow agreed because he wanted him to stay and probably because he hoped that when the club was sold Torres would be happier and wouldn't want to go even if someone met the clause.

 

The only part Purslow played in this was appointing Hodgson, but even that isn't that significant as Torres was unsettled before Hodgson, and even now Hodgson has gone he still wants out. He's walking out on Kenny Dalglish, which to me tells me he would walk out on any manager.

 

He was under a contract with NO clause in it, so we could have insisted he stayed for the remainder of it and refused any bid.

However that's not an ideal situation and quite unrealistic in modern football, so I can't blame Purslow for going along with inserting the clause.

[JohnnyH]

Surprised there hasn't been a bid from Barca or City. I know City have just paid big money for a striker, but Tevez is almost certainly gone in the summer.

[Moo]

Surprised there hasn't been a bid from Barca or City. I know City have just paid big money for a striker, but Tevez is almost certainly gone in the summer.

 

There's time. You never know Torres could be using Chelsea to flush out other interest.

[Colonol]

If Torres was committed and the other attacking players such as Raul, Stevie, Suarez, Maxi, Cole and Kuyt all were playing well we could hit form and still get 4th. It is not totally beyond us but is a tough ask. Chelsea don't seem to be improving and Spurs are hit and miss still. That 4th place is not out of reach. He should have stayed and fought for that and the Europa.

[Iantn]

The only part Purslow played in this was appointing Hodgson, but even that isn't that significant as Torres was unsettled before Hodgson, and even now Hodgson has gone he still wants out. He's walking out on Kenny Dalglish, which to me tells me he would walk out on any manager.

 

I do agree with most of what you are saying and to blame Purslow alone for this is massively myopic, but given how shite this league is I think if we'd have appointed the right manager in the summer we'd deffo be in the top4 by now.

 

With that we'd probably in a better situation not for Torres to be doing this.

 

Ultimately though, it's all conjucture because he does wanna leave and we need to sort out the deal and suits us first and foremost.

[Anny Road]

I am sick to the pit of my stomach. Its fucking horrible and is no over exaggeration to say I am fed up with the grief this sport causes me.

[Captain]

Surprised there hasn't been a bid from Barca or City. I know City have just paid big money for a striker, but Tevez is almost certainly gone in the summer.

 

For all we know, they may have been in touch to find out if Torres really is for sale or not.

[Iantn]

Surprised there hasn't been a bid from Barca or City. I know City have just paid big money for a striker, but Tevez is almost certainly gone in the summer.

 

I'd expect one from someone else although I wonder how much of Barcelona's limited funds these days have already been tied up during the summer gone and how much Man City wanna sign another number 9 when they've got Tevez, Silva and Balotelli to accomodate.

 

That is the only reason why we should even consider keeping hold to the summer.

[Monster Masch]

Newcastle just rejected a £25M bid from spurs for carroll according to stelling.

[Joe Le Taxi]

Can't we all agree Purslow was a cunt and move on?

[Bradderzzz]

Unless they offer silly money 65mil + and no installments he has to stay. Even then we would struggle to get anyone in and at a stupid price. Granted he will be gone in the summer but then we have time to replace him. As it is FSG should be making a huge statement that we DON'T SELL our star players to our rivals despite what a little shit he has been.

 

Some journos think the clause only becomes active in the summer when there is defo no champions league and that it may only apply to foreign clubs. If thats the case you can see why Chelsea are really trying to get him now as they would be in a queue in the summer you would think. Oh and maybe its because of the FFP regs coming in to?