Cancel Culture

[Section_31]

2 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Wait till they discovered this.
 

 

I actually think the way to deal with this stuff is to front it out, if you give an inch you're fucked..

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

Only the top 7% have means and ways of avoiding, it does affect a fair few lower down the food chain.

 

There's a system whereby you morgatage everything up to the hilt so on your death houses or anything else solid count as liabilities, so a fund is set up that immediately pays the creditors on death, they recieve minimal interest or a fee of sorts, and the former liabilities transfer over as assests and aviod all that sorid tax stuff the little people pay.

 

There's even a way of writing down value of asssests linked to this which protect the investment portfolio.

 

This avoids paying anything, smart eh?

The only people affected by the tax are those rich enough to dodge it (through the loopholes successive governments have no appetite to close).  

https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/a-guide-to-inheritance-tax

 

The game is rigged.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[Jockey]

https://chimamanda.com/  - this is brutal! 

 

 

Nails the current debate I think. 

[SasaS]

This is not even "woke" any more... I don't know what this is. The future is bright.

 

Putting it here, don't know where it fits.

https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/greta-thunberg-new-zealand-school-strike-b1866457.html
 

A New Zealand chapter of a climate change movement linked with environmentalist Greta Thunberg has shut down because of its own racism.
 

“We are not holding any more climate strikes in the Auckland region. Our members have also separated from the national SS4C team. Going forward, we will only be using our social media to uplift BIPOC-led climate justice spaces in Auckland.”

It added that SS4C AKL “has been a racist, white-dominated space” and “tokenised” BIPOC voices such as “those of Pasifika and Māori individuals in the climate activism space”.

The statement also apologised “for the hurt, burnout, and trauma caused to many BIPOC individuals” and said the disbanding of the chapter was “well overdue”.

[Strontium]

Curious that they don't give any specific examples of racism, unless simply being dominated by the dominant local ethnic group is racist now.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Curious that they don't give any specific examples of racism, unless simply being dominated by the dominant local ethnic group is racist now.

Yeah certainly doesn't sound like the local dominant race is marching around singing "death to Maoris" or anything extreme like that. 

[Strontium]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Yeah certainly doesn't sound like the local dominant race is marching around singing "death to Maoris" or anything extreme like that. 

 

Change the record, fella.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Change the record, fella.

Yeah not like you were implying something about another region in the post I responded too, fella. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah not like you were implying something about another region in the post I responded too, fella. 

 

Sorry to disappoint you, but my comment was purely about the situation in New Zealand.

[SasaS]

What is going on in New Zealand? There was a news story a few days ago that the producer dropped the film about the Christchurch massacre, and not because it was too soon or something, but because it was too much about Jacinda and not enough about the victims. Because apparently someone now "owns" such events and can demand artistic approach and expression. 

[Bjornebye]

No sense of , well anything really have they? 

 

 

 

 

[SasaS]

Billie Eilish in trouble now.

I had to google the lyrics to find out what was the Asian slur, it was so horrible that no website article dared repeat it.

What a time to be alive indeed. 

[Strontium]

I don't understand why she's in trouble for mouthing an anti-Asian slur in a Tyler, the Creator song 10 years ago, when there seems to be no suggestion that Tyler himself should face the music.

[SasaS]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

I don't understand why she's in trouble for mouthing an anti-Asian slur in a Tyler, the Creator song 10 years ago, when there seems to be no suggestion that Tyler himself should face the music.

Outrage works in mysterious ways.

 

 

[Chris]

4 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I don't understand why she's in trouble for mouthing an anti-Asian slur in a Tyler, the Creator song 10 years ago, when there seems to be no suggestion that Tyler himself should face the music.

 

Or anything to do with the lyric "slip it in her drink" at the very start. In all seriousness though, the fact the absolutely abhorrent levels of misogyny in hip-hop lyrics barely gets a mention, while some cricketer sends a few stupid and offensive tweets a few years ago and practically gets castrated, says a lot. Tell me, which is more pervasive in today's society with more influence on young minds and more power to affect social change? Hip-hop or cricket?

[Section_31]

Wasn't/isn't Billie Eilish popular in those circles too? (the easily angered Twitter teenage girl types). You stay the hero just long enough to become the villain, there really is no end to it. If you give an inch, you're fucked. Trump was definitely on to something in a sense, if you not only embrace this shit but also double down on it, there's nowhere to go. 

[Bjornebye]

Did Eminem ever get cancelled for Superman? 

[Chris]

1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

Wasn't/isn't Billie Eilish popular in those circles too? (the easily angered Twitter teenage girl types). You stay the hero just long enough to become the villain, there really is no end to it. If you give an inch, you're fucked. Trump was definitely on to something in a sense, if you not only embrace this shit but also double down on it, there's nowhere to go. 

 

Basically, Billie Eilish is a fucking saint and an inspirational one at that. The moral of the story is, don't become a hero at all.

[Rico1304]

Just now, Section_31 said:

Wasn't/isn't Billie Eilish popular in those circles too? (the easily angered Twitter teenage girl types). You stay the hero just long enough to become the villain, there really is no end to it. If you give an inch, you're fucked. Trump was definitely on to something in a sense, if you not only embrace this shit but also double down on it, there's nowhere to go. 

Remember when there was a quote by someone like Peterson that being called racist meant fuck all anymore, that if you were called racist by a certain type of person it wasn’t what ‘normal’ people meant so don’t listen? It was pulled apart on here and people went fucking mental. Well, this is what was meant.  

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

She's just been played on Radio 1 according to their twitter bot. 

 

She's not in trouble. She hasn't been cancelled. She said something years ago which Chinese people might find offensive. It's resurfaced years later and she's provided context and voiced her regret at what she did. 

 

It's very likely that nothing more will come of it. But, don't let that stop you with the "p.c. gone mad/bloody cancel culture" hysterics.

[Section_31]

Part of the story appears to be around her doing accents too?

 

Eilish said footage of her imitating accents was her speaking in a “silly gibberish made up voice”, something she has done since she was a child.

She added: “It is absolute gibberish and just me goofing around, and is in NO way an imitation of anyone or any language, accent, or culture in the SLIGHTEST.”

[SasaS]

2 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Part of the story appears to be around her doing accents too?

 

Eilish said footage of her imitating accents was her speaking in a “silly gibberish made up voice”, something she has done since she was a child.

She added: “It is absolute gibberish and just me goofing around, and is in NO way an imitation of anyone or any language, accent, or culture in the SLIGHTEST.”

Are all these videos private or what? She is supposed to be 14 or 15 in them.

[Jockey]

I was reading something Jamie Bartlett said about online activism - basically the theory behind the Internet is that we all have access to this vast library of information that will ensure informed debate - but actually there is too much information for people to consume so they regress to an emotional decision/opinion - which is always that much harder to shift and change as it becomes who they are.

 

This isn't about 'pc gone mad' that is just a lazy dismissal, it will be the right who come out on top in this. Debate will be banned. 

[Mudface]

16 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Are all these videos private or what? She is supposed to be 14 or 15 in them.

That's what I was wondering, the report I read said the video has 'surfaced', so presumably someone with an axe to grind has got hold of it.

 

A decade old private video of a child singing the lyrics to someone else's song. And she's had to come out with a grovelling apology to pre-empt the torches and pitchforks. Fucking nonsense.