VAR Thoughts?

[The wanderer]

49 minutes ago, TheSire said:

I don't think they want that at all tbh, you don't go into refereeing in the hope you'll be a massive star!

Howards says hi

[Pete]

11 hours ago, Lee909 said:

 

Yeah I tend to agree

Feels more like we want more goals and this will help

 

Wenger has turned a right prick since joining FIFA. This and wanting a 2 yearly world cup 

He was always a prick. He just hid it better & was competing with Fergie & Mourinho. Two of the biggest pricks ever. 

[Bob]

2 hours ago, Jennings said:

What? That true?

 

How does that help us understand what is happening in the game?

1. It's true.

 

2. Why would that be these pricks intention?

 

 

[Jennings]

36 minutes ago, Bob said:

1. It's true.

 

2. Why would that be these pricks intention?

 

 

Fucking hell.

 

A flag is literally a device for getting attention. 

 

 

 

[Dicko]

3 hours ago, Jennings said:

Rubbish!

 

sometimes flagging. Sometimes not. 
Forensically checking goals for offside, whether suspected or not. 
Drawing lines for 5 minutes. 
Only VAR checking the forward passes that lead to goals. 

Offsides are the worst bit of it. 

That's on the lino.

VAR just rules whether you are offside or not.

If the lino's aren't doing their jobs properly get better ones in.

[Jennings]

2 hours ago, CrownPaints said:

if VAR can't decide within one minute

 

A minute is too long!

[CrownPaints]

30 minutes ago, Jennings said:

 

A minute is too long!

Ha, clearly you've never met any of my girlfriends.

[VladimirIlyich]

46 minutes ago, Dicko said:

That's on the lino.

VAR just rules whether you are offside or not.

If the lino's aren't doing their jobs properly get better ones in.

I hate VAR and it should be binned but the Assistant's role has become even more difficult and I have more sympathy for them than refs. They are working to instructions so vague and open to mistakes and are also being asked to do the ref's role too.

[Barrington Womble]

7 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

That’s come from Carra insulating it in his commentary.
 

He hinted at the onfield ref taking his time and being told what to do on 3 occasions. 

 

The commentators get a feed of the VAR don't they? So if this has been happening, Liverpool should take this and use it as a nail to finally get Tierney off our games and howard Webb fired. 

 

1 hour ago, Jennings said:

Fucking hell.

 

A flag is literally a device for getting attention. 

 

 

 

Some of the referees actually instruct their Lino's to keep the flag down and use the button if they want to bring something up - because of course if a lino flags because he's seen something, the ref needs to acknowledge it and can't claim he didn't know. Which prevents him getting to the outcome he wants. 

[Barrington Womble]

As for offside. If they want to improve it, make offside offside again. None of this phases of play, not interfering and all that shite. All that does is bring subjectivity to what should be a binary decision. Take the subjectivity out and stop referees shaping matches the way they want. Take the 1st Newcastle pen at the weekend for example. That should just be offside and no pen. And some weeks it would be, because they wouldn't want to give the pen and would say Gordon was interfering coming back from an offside position. And other weeks like this, they'll give the pen. Take the choice away from the ref and VAR. Offside is offside. If you're on the pitch, you're interfering. 

[an tha]

9 hours ago, Bob said:

That is bollocks. 

 

That free kick almost certainly got.given by the lino I reckon. Coote wasn't giving it but the linos have a button on their flag so they can alert without flagging and that's what I reckon happened. 

 

It was bullshit, never a foul and never a yellow but I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

Ah makes more sense.

 

Still shite like but at least makes sense. I'd have been stunned even with these useless cunts if it was true.

[Code]

This is going to be used in the PL from next season, Why not earlier when the technology was already there last season. 

[Tj hooker]

3 minutes ago, Code said:

This is going to be used in the PL from next season, Why not earlier when the technology was already there last season. 

Howard Webb and Tierney don't like it would be my guess 

[Barrington Womble]

 

 

[Pete]

Fuck. It. Off.

[TheSire]

On 01/04/2024 at 09:13, The wanderer said:

Howards says hi

I think if anything they shit themselves because they DONT want backlash and attention. They bottle making the right decision.

[Smell The Glove]

5 hours ago, TheSire said:

I think if anything they shit themselves because they DONT want backlash and attention. They bottle making the right decision.

The recent top of the table games have definitely been reffed this way. Letting absolutely everything go as they don't want to give early yellows in case they have to give a red. They're not fit for purpose now and it's time to mix officials up from different countries to get any sort of credibility back.

[Mook]

6 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

 

 

This is what it boils down to.

 

They have killed Football and we've all just sat on our arses & let them get away with it.

[Tj hooker]

Those lines on the Var look well dodgy compared to the real thing 

[Barrington Womble]

30 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Those lines on the Var look well dodgy compared to the real thing 

You can't see the ball being played in the same shot there though. 

[Pidge]

On 01/04/2024 at 10:02, Bob said:

1. It's true.

 

2. Why would that be these pricks intention?

 

 

Wow, what next. Are they going to get a microphone for VAR to help make sure Michael Oliver does his fucking job...

[Tj hooker]

22 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

You can't see the ball being played in the same shot there though. 

The Coventry player looks well behind Wan  Bissaka from were the camera picks it up ,  now unless he's checked his run and then gone again which in that time frame is very unlikely then something isn't adding up 

[Bob]

4 hours ago, Tj hooker said:

The Coventry player looks well behind Wan  Bissaka from were the camera picks it up ,  now unless he's checked his run and then gone again which in that time frame is very unlikely then something isn't adding up 

I didn't see it live and have only watched the replay once or twice but the cov player was stood still and didn't react to the pass straight away, whereas the defender was running back towards goal so that's why he very quickly looks onside in that video.

 

For my money, he looked 'level' but that's not a thing anymore since the shit lines came in to spoil everything to make nerds and Internet twats happy, so he's either just on or just off and it turns out on this one roll of the dice he's just off.

[Redder Lurtz]

6 hours ago, Pidge said:

Wow, what next. Are they going to get a microphone for VAR to help make sure Michael Oliver does his fucking job...

 

Michael Oliver is doing his job very well. Just ask his boss, Sheikh Mansour. 

[Vincent Vega]

I read an article in The Times the other day about how VAR can be improved. They spoke with Peter Walton, Richard Scudamore, Jacqui Oatley and Connor Coady. These remarks from Peter Walton were pretty unbelievable in my view. I mean, the Rugby League refs are happy to do it and most of them sound like they’ve just walked out of a Victorian mill.

 

If anyone wants to read the article you can do so here.

 

https://archive.is/ecKEz

How communication can be improved

So it sounds like we could quite quickly shift the line back closer to the original VAR. But one of the big failings has been communication, particularly inside stadiums.

 

Oatley: “Yeah, this is such a key part because we spent the first part of this discussion talking about accuracy. Then we said, well actually it is 96 per cent accuracy after VAR. So it’s not actually accuracy that’s the problem, it’s the perception of this decision-making.” Fans inside a stadium can be left with very little information.

 

Walton: “IFAB is acutely aware of this. They are looking at various projects around the world in various leagues to see if they can come up with the answer to communication. One is the referee announces what the decision is and why. That’s fraught with danger of course because not everybody is articulate as the next person so you need almost a script to work to make sure you get the right wording through. That was something that we were looking at, and something that I think is worthy of a try.

 

“The other thing is that people want to see the incident. Yes, you can’t mandate every Premier League ground to have a screen. I don’t think Manchester United or Liverpool have got screens, but apart from them two everybody else that has got a screen why not show the still or why not show the actual action again in real time?”