The Partition of India

[polymerpunkah]

As of January 20, 2021, there have been 1,994 members of the United States Senate, of which 11 have been African American.

[SasaS]

But also,

 

as of today, two out of 14 cabinet ministers and half of VP. Which is statistically representative.

 

Two out of nine Supreme Court judges.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Strontium said:

 

There's nothing to learn. Your position is nonsensical and inherently self-contradictory. You don't defeat unfairness by introducing more unfairness. You don't punish and reward people who are alive now for what their distant ancestors may or may not have done or suffered.

Y'know,if you put it like that (i.e. if you pretend I'm saying something I'm self-evidently not saying) it does sound nonsensical.

 

Helmet.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

45 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

As of January 20, 2021, there have been 1,994 members of the United States Senate, of which 11 have been African American.

Keep your facts to yourself: "there's nothing to learn".

[TheHowieLama]

1 hour ago, polymerpunkah said:

As of January 20, 2021, there have been 1,994 members of the United States Senate, of which 11 have been African American.

 

Not sure using historical running total makes much sense. It is a fact though.

 

US population is 13.5 % black atm. So before you get into those politicians ideologies - the ratio is very close to the overall population percentage.

If anything Latinos are under represented today.

 

The current meeting of Congress the most racially diverse in history. 

About 11% of congressional members identify as Black. A quarter of members from the 118th Congress identify as something other than non-Hispanic white, according to the most recent data from the Congressional Research Service.

 

 

[Strontium]

17 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Not sure using historical running total makes much sense.

 

It makes no sense at all. But when your argument makes no sense at all...

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

It makes no sense at all. But when your argument makes no sense at all...

I don't think @polymerpunkah was making any argument.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

It makes no sense at all. But when your argument makes no sense at all...

It makes no sense if you assume that the world was created this morning.  If, on the other hand, you understand that history is nothing more or less than the study of how we got where we are now, then it makes sense to take history into consideration.

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

It makes no sense if you assume that the world was created this morning.  If, on the other hand, you understand that history is nothing more or less than the study of how we got where we are now, then it makes sense to take history into consideration.

 

History only comes into consideration with him if it's his history. If it doesn't fit his argument then it doesn't count. 

[TheHowieLama]

Without opening "a can of worms" as was mentioned in this thread maybe we should acknowledge the elephant sitting in the study.

 

I would think there are a fair few folks who would look at the creation of Israel and feel it fits this like a glove:

 

You don't defeat unfairness by introducing more unfairness. You don't punish and reward people who are alive now for what their distant ancestors may or may not have done or suffered.

 

It does illustrate how difficult it is to right a wrong both after the fact and in "real-time."

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Do we need a separate thread on reparations and save this one for the Partition of India?

[Strontium]

Some partitions are clearly more equal than others.

[TheHowieLama]

9 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Do we need a separate thread on reparations and save this one for the Partition of India?

 

Why?

 

India has been gouged for centuries by Britain - this is the perfect thread for discussing reparations affecting other countries.

[cloggypop]

6 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

"war on drugs"

 

Shit band

[AngryOfTuebrook]

17 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Why?

 

India has been gouged for centuries by Britain - this is the perfect thread for discussing reparations affecting other countries.

It's just that in the last few pages American "Indians" have been mentioned more than Indian Indians.

[Captain Turdseye]

Not a fan of the call centre outsourcing but that’s purely because I’m receiving at least one cold call a day at the moment.

Whichever country 3 Mobile outsource to would be on my shitlist, and right now that’s India. They’re getting their own back alright. 

[SasaS]

I mentioned the VP.

[TheHowieLama]

10 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

It's just that in the last few pages American "Indians" have been mentioned more than Indian Indians.

The thread hadn't been posted on in 6 years and prior had most posts going on about building regulations.

 

Also, more to the point:

On 16/02/2024 at 06:59, TheHowieLama said:

Fact is, any reparations by definition are an admission of guilt and a show of remorse neither of which the UK will be up for.

 

 

I include the British public in that as well.

[TheHowieLama]

On 15/02/2024 at 06:11, TheHowieLama said:

 

The demolition of two mosques in India within days of each other has highlighted the deep religious divide in the country

 

A court in India's most populous state has effectively banned Islamic schools by striking down a law governing madrasas, weeks before a nationwide election that could further polarize the world’s largest democracy along religious lines.

The Allahabad High Court in Uttar Pradesh on Friday declared the Madrasa Act of 2004 to be unconstitutional, according to a court order seen by CNN, while ordering the state government to move students enrolled in the Islamic system into mainstream schools.

“We hold that the Madarsa (sic) Act, 2004, is violative of the principle of Secularism, which is a part of the basic structure of the Constitution of India,” the high court said in its order.

“Since providing education is one of the primary duties of the State, it is bound to remain secular while exercising its powers in the said field. It cannot provide for education of a particular religion, its instructions, prescriptions and philosophies or create separate education systems for separate religions.”

Madrasas provide a system of education in which students are taught about the Quran and Islamic history alongside general subjects like math and science.

[Bjornebye]

Now I want a madras 

[stringvest]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Now I want a madras 

Don’t you mean a Chennai?

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Don’t you mean a Chennai?

Straight out my arse 

[Strontium]

48 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Don’t you mean a Chennai?

 

Bless you.

[VladimirIlyich]

On 19/02/2024 at 17:10, TheHowieLama said:

The thread hadn't been posted on in 6 years and prior had most posts going on about building regulations.

 

Also, more to the point:

 

I include the British public in that as well.

Ironically it's their ancestors property which was stolen that makes up some of the wealth stolen by 'their' Royal Family's own ancestors. That would be a hell of a can of worms.