FSG are not shit

[stringvest]

You repeat this line all the time but same as the rest of us you have no clue about the realities who may or may not be interested in the club and what is going on behind closed doors. I doubt theres a trillionaire unicorn season ticket holder out there wanting to buy us but its still possible there'll be other suitors you and I will never have heard of. And until FSG actively look to sell we wont.

 

 

So you think if there was anyone interested in buying our club they wouldn't get in touch directly with the club or its lawyers, and wouldn't leak it to the press, just because FSG haven't put the club on Rightmove?  

[Pureblood]

Im sure it's no different at man city, chelsea, psg and a few others.

 

One notable difference is that those clubs win trophies. 

[jimmycase]

granted, we used to be different though, now through it all I couldn't give fuck!! only the germans seem to have it right.

 

point being though there's only so long fickle customers will put up with no trophies they will simply move onto another club.

 

I personally think we are set up to be an exciting team to watch not a winning team but an exciting team to get those tv ratings in.

 

I agree mate, I really do. Im not saying fsg are perfect, Im just saying they arent complete shit. Yes, they've done some shit things but equally the shit things abramovic and mansour etc have done have been subtly swept under the carpet by money and their fans do as they please.

 

But like Ive said, I find it depressing and embarassing we havent won the title in 27 years (cue the manc jibes) not that we havnet won the league cup or fa cup since 2012.

 

Id rather the club only entered the 'champions league' as champions of england and not this shite where Europa League winners can get in it never mind 2nd, 3rd, and 4th placed clubs

[jimmycase]

One notable difference is that those clubs win trophies. 

 

Yes, and how much has mansour poured into city and how much has abramovic into chelsea? Funny, I remember people droning on about not wanting an abramovic owner back when he started his project.

[Pureblood]

Yes, and how much has mansour poured into city and how much has abramovic into chelsea?

 

Enough to win some trophies.

[an tha]

Personally i wouldn't give a shite if a consortium of Kim Jong-un, Ratcatcher, Anders Breivik and Zippy from Rainbow bought and owned us if it meant we won the league.

[Pureblood]

Personally i wouldn't give a shite if a consortium of Kim Jong-un, Ratcatcher, Anders Breivik and Zippy from Rainbow bought and owned us if it meant we won the league.

 

I'd draw the line at Ratcatcher.  The others are okay.

[an tha]

I'd draw the line at Ratcatcher. The others are okay.

On reflection that probably was a bit over the top...

[jimmycase]

Enough to win some trophies.

 

Seriously, what does that mean? Both mansour and abramovic have spent the best part of a billion each to get their clubs where they are and mansour is still spending.

[ngogswilly]

So you think if there was anyone interested in buying our club they wouldn't get in touch directly with the club or its lawyers, and wouldn't leak it to the press, just because FSG haven't put the club on Rightmove?

Its all completely hypothetical. Just because we've never heard about anyone trying to buy us doesnt mean it didnt happen nor does it mean it wont happen in the future. Ita entirely possible you're correct and nobody has even tried to buy us. Thats the point really. Nobody knows so its a moot point.

 

When people complain and bitch and whine about FSG it doesnt automatically mean they want a trillionaire owner to come turn us into a vanity project. Some will and some wont want that.

 

Me personally believe FSG are just being tight arses and the only thing that 'might' make that change is a bit of fan pressure.

[Pureblood]

Seriously, what does that mean? 

 

It means they invest in their clubs, which then go on to win.  It's a difficult concept to understand in the FSG era.

[jimmycase]

It means they invest in their clubs, which then go on to win.  It's a difficult concept to understand in the FSG era.

 

Well d'uh. I'll rephrase, how much money is 'enough to win trophies'? £500m, £750m, more?

[stringvest]

Its all completely hypothetical. Just because we've never heard about anyone trying to buy us doesnt mean it didnt happen nor does it mean it wont happen in the future. Ita entirely possible you're correct and nobody has even tried to buy us. Thats the point really. Nobody knows so its a moot point.

 

When people complain and bitch and whine about FSG it doesnt automatically mean they want a trillionaire owner to come turn us into a vanity project. Some will and some wont want that.

 

Me personally believe FSG are just being tight arses and the only thing that 'might' make that change is a bit of fan pressure.

 

 

Well, I've stopped buying donuts.  I believe FSG are doing what they bought the club to do, and because they are not going bankrupt, they'll sell when they want at the price they'll accept.  I actually thought they would sell a few years ago, because I didn't think they'd invest in the ground.  I was wrong, but that was because none of us could anticipate the latest TV deal.  My feeling is as soon as the TV money peaks (it may already have done) that is the time they'll look to sell, as there is little else they can do to monetise a product slowly but surely decreasing in popularity.   

[Pureblood]

Well d'uh. I'll rephrase, how much money is 'enough to win trophies'? £500m, £750m, more?

 

I left my abacus at yer ma's.

[ngogswilly]

Well, I've stopped buying donuts. I believe FSG are doing what they bought the club to do, and because they are not going bankrupt, they'll sell when they want at the price they'll accept. I actually thought they would sell a few years ago, because I didn't think they'd invest in the ground. I was wrong, but that was because none of us could anticipate the latest TV deal. My feeling is as soon as the TV money peaks (it may already have done) that is the time they'll look to sell, as there is little else they can do to monetise a product slowly but surely decreasing in popularity.

Yeah I'd agree 100% on that. There had to be an exit plan it just depends on when they'll execute.

[jimmycase]

I left my abacus at yer ma's.

 

OK evade your own assertion which is what I pretty much expected.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

  My feeling is as soon as the TV money peaks (it may already have done) that is the time they'll look to sell, as there is little else they can do to monetise a product slowly but surely decreasing in popularity.   

 

I think the biggest one is yet to come - if Amazon and co throw their hat into the ring then Sky just don't have the clout to compete with them.

[an tha]

The problem with the sale now is the asking price - FSG have very cleverly built up the value of the club (even though things are no better really on the pitch) so they make a huge profit when they sell.

 

But the asking price/valuation means that anyone who does buy us is highly unlikely to invest heavily in the football side as the kind of money needed on top of buying us is huge.....far easier to buy a West Ham for a fraction of the price and then pump £400m into buying the league - still be less than just buying us.

[Pureblood]

OK evade your own assertion which is what I pretty much expected.

 

OK type some nonsensical waffle in reply which is what I pretty much expected.

[jimmycase]

OK type some nonsensical waffle in reply which is what I pretty much expected.

 

You're the one who stated those clubs won things because of money. Then ran away. As you were.

[TheHowieLama]

Well d'uh. I'll rephrase, how much money is 'enough to win trophies'? £500m, £750m, more?

 

At least as much as the 4 or 5 other English clubs looking to win trophies would be one answer.

[Tony Moanero]

You repeat this line all the time but same as the rest of us you have no clue about the realities who may or may not be interested in the club and what is going on behind closed doors. I doubt theres a trillionaire unicorn season ticket holder out there wanting to buy us but its still possible there'll be other suitors you and I will never have heard of. And until FSG actively look to sell we wont.

Unfortunately, when stringy posts, stringy posts the same old tedious shite.

[aws]

They're not the worst. They're not the best.

[jimmycase]

They're not the worst. They're not the best.

 

This.

[SlugTrail]

Well d'uh. I'll rephrase, how much money is 'enough to win trophies'? £500m, £750m, more?