We're gonna have a party when Maggie Thatcher dies

[corro]

When Margaret pegs out (they'll keep her on a low light until a few months before the next election) I shall put my tools away, get home, change and celebrate her passing.

 

I'm well aware she was the mouthpiece of that rabid set of right wing maniacs,Joseph, Du cann,Fox et al. She was their poster girl so I will stick with her passing as a time to remember the unnecessary idealogical damage caused by that government to communities across the country. There's no such thing as society. God love her.

It would be a nice touch if she had her withered grasping arms wrapped around her fave son Tony when they screw the lid down

[BringbackBiscan]

I'm gonna have a party when that fat cunt blows himself up. Fat fucking pikey cunt

[The KillingMoon]

I consider myself a socialist and despise thatcher for what she did to all northern towns and cities and for her role in the hillsborough cover up. I do think it's unbelieveably classless to Sing about partying when somebody dies whoever they are . More so such double standards to sing at Sunderland and today in view of us asking for respect for the 96

[JOHNG]

I'm gonna have a party when that fat cunt blows himself up. Fat fucking pikey cunt

 

You are one boring twat.

[zigackly]

From the ONS.

 

1979 start of Thatcher era:

10% of the population owned 50% of the wealth

50% of the population owned 92% of the wealth

 

1991 start of the Major era:

10% of the population owned 47% of the wealth

50% of the population owned 92% of the wealth

 

1998 start of the Blair era:

10% of the population owned 52% of the wealth

50% of the population owned 91% of the wealth

 

2005

10% of the population owned 54% of the wealth

50% of the population owned 94% of the wealth

 

Fair point. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I'd be interested to see where you got that info because I have read different, but I'm prepared to accept it at face value if you can't be arsed.

 

I also apologise for the dig earlier. The subject of Thatcher gets me very angry, but that's not your fault.

[RedRazor]

No problem. Did a search on google for distribution of wealth in the UK and a document came up from the Office for National Statistics.

 

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/stats/personal_wealth/13-5-table-2005.pdf

 

Thatcher was clearly very clever - she appears to have moved wealth from the top 10% mainly to the people in the top 11% to 50% - probably where all the floating voters sit - and wins three elections. Major moves wealth from everyone to the top 10% and gets turfed out at the second time of asking. Blair moved wealth from the bottom 50% to the top 50% and won three elections.

 

The moral of the tale would appear to be "move wealth to where the floating voters sit and you will get elected and re-elected" irrespective of your party.

[Strontium]

The moral of the tale would appear to be "move wealth to where the floating voters sit and you will get elected and re-elected" irrespective of your party.

 

 

Correct, and that's why First Past The Post is such a terrible thing, proportional representation with proper coalitions would mean that divisive extremists like Thatcher would never, ever get to be Prime Minister.

 

But we risk going off topic here.

[zigackly]

I'm guessing now the stat I read must have been referring to that whole period of Tory government which was led by both Thatcher and Major, rather than just Thatcher. Plenty of other things to hate her for anyway.

[Tehran Stag Do]

To the dickheads who sang this on today of all days .- you're no better than the mancs. Tasteless, disrespectful to the families and most of all plain stupid. I loathe her as much as the next person with a semblance of humanity for all of the same reasons but this is just plain wrong and opens us up to being called hypocrites.

 

Stick this song up yer arses

[The KillingMoon]

To the dickheads who sang this on today of all days .- you're no better than the mancs. Tasteless, disrespectful to the families and most of all plain stupid. I loathe her as much as the next person with a semblance of humanity for all of the same reasons but this is just plain wrong and opens us up to being called hypocrites.

 

Stick this song up yer arses

 

Seconded

 

Double standards in a big big way and I despise her

[Section_31]

It's nowhere near the same thing. Singing about innocent people dying at a footy match isn't the same thing as expressing your hatred for a political leader who has done you wrong. I'm not agreeing with it, I don't like it, but it's not that far removed from the Scottish singing about Edward the Longshanks or something. She was essentially an occupying leader who tore the city apart long before the Hillsborough lies. Not in a million years is it as bad.

[The KillingMoon]

It's nowhere near the same thing. Singing about innocent people dying at a footy match isn't the same thing as expressing your hatred for a political leader who has done you wrong. I'm not agreeing with it, I don't like it, but it's not that far removed from the Scottish singing about Edward the Longshanks or something. She was essentially an occupying leader who tore the city apart long before the Hillsborough lies. Not in a million years is it as bad.

 

Wrong

 

There was families there today of the 96. Singing about wanting somebody to die and you ll have a Party when they do is wrong and double standards. Even the old witch thatcher has children and gran children

[Strontium]

Even the old witch thatcher has children and gran children

 

 

Yes, but they're Tories, they don't count.

[sparta7]

I'm saying this because I believe in it. I really believe that it's just not worth hating someone to the grave. She is and has been a major bitch, but there's a lot more important things in life than wasting your energies hating someone, no matter what the reason.

 

As she goes through her existence, or even when she enters the beyond, every bad thing she did will probably hit her anyway. Don't waste your energy on what she did wrong, it's not worth it.

 

We're all fucked up in our own ways and we'll all pay in our own ways too. When it comes down to it none of us need help or extra hate from others.

 

I dont spend my life or energy hating her, but if I am asked a straight question as to what I think of her I answer it truthfully, quietly and honestly, in that she is a rancid old hag who is also the daughter of Satan.

 

You are utterly incorrect to think that any bad things she did will hit her, because she doesnt think she did any, and some on here who talk about our "irrational" hatred of Tories may agree.

 

I am very rational about Thatcher, and I know that when she dies she wont need a fucking overcoat where she is going.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

Tell me true tell me why was Jesus crucified

Is it for this that daddy died?

Was it for you? was it me?

Did I watch too much t.v.?

Is that a hint of accusation in your eyes?

If it wasn't for the nips

Being so good at building ships

The yards would still be open on the clyde

And it can't be much fun for them

Beneath the rising sun

With all their kids committing suicide

What have we done maggie what have we done

What have we done to England

Should we shout should we scream

"What happened to the post war dream?"

Oh Maggie Maggie what have we done?

 

Lyrics Roger Waters

[zigackly]

Interesting. I never knew Roger Waters was a racist until you posted that.

[SCOUSE TAPAS]

Interesting. I never knew Roger Waters was a racist until you posted that.

Dont listen to Run like Hell of the wall then.

[FanchesterCity]

I'm confused a bit Fanchester,you mention the callousness shown to your grandad yet don't believe her to be evil?

I consider that pretty evil myself and things like sacrificing those soldiers lives purely to be re elected is pretty evil too.

Supporting Pinochet,who was evil,at least makes her an accomplice to evil at least.

She seemed pretty adept at loading the bullets,taking away jobs and their benefits,health treatment,good standard of education,yet letting others fire the bullets.

 

Evil generalky isn't the bogeyman in the cupboard,its the person you can see.

 

I don't see it as evil. I see it as adopting a policy that has repercussions. Repercussions she didn't fully understand, or care much about.

 

For me, 'evil' is infinitely more sinister, and it's positively setting out to inflict incredible pain / horror on people. She never did that. She wanted things HER way, and set about getting her way. Careless of consequence, absolutely.

 

Crazy analagy:

 

If I decide to nick next doors electricity for my own gain, and the elderly couple next door die of hypothermia... that's just me not grasping the consequences - but still ends up with tragedy.

Evil, is actually turning off their electricity for no other reason that to kill them.

 

She thought industry was 'old' and not profitable... unclean and untidy. She killed it off.

She thought public owned companies were slacking, so privatised them. They probably WERE slacking, but her 'solution' just turned them into profit making enterprises (which just changes the problem, it doesn't fix it!).

 

I have no time at all for her. I think she was politically cunning, damn sharp with it. But she wasn't Myra Hindley. Just a self centered, narrow minded battleaxe.

 

As for sacrificing soldiers lives for political motives. Hmmm... I agree, but she's hardly alone in that. A great of military action is politically motivated.

[zigackly]

There are two types of evil. Deliberate harm and callous neglect.

 

Thatcher certainly was evil, and your justifying of her actions as bumbling errors does you no credit.

[torahboy]

Just watched a few moments of MOTD. I'm going having a party when Mark Lawrenson dies.

[Code]

Just watched a few moments of MOTD. I'm going having a party when Mark Lawrenson dies.

 

Watched that myself, could not believe what I was seeing.

 

Thought the chants about Thatcher was fuckin lowlife though and it was not only once it happened either.

 

There were two chants I did not join in on yesterday and that was one of them.

[jonnybastard]

To the dickheads who sang this on today of all days .- you're no better than the mancs. Tasteless, disrespectful to the families and most of all plain stupid. I loathe her as much as the next person with a semblance of humanity for all of the same reasons but this is just plain wrong and opens us up to being called hypocrites.

 

Stick this song up yer arses

 

You really do need to get a fucking grip lad. In what way is it disrespectful to the families? (I assume you mean the families of the 96 and not thatcher's arms dealing offspring). And "today of all days"- what the fuck has that got to do with anything? Seriously, does the fact that so many people despise the cunt- to the extent that they would mark her passing with celebration, really bother you that much?

[The KillingMoon]

You really do need to get a fucking grip lad. In what way is it disrespectful to the families? (I assume you mean the families of the 96 and not thatcher's arms dealing offspring). And "today of all days"- what the fuck has that got to do with anything? Seriously, does the fact that so many people despise the cunt- to the extent that they would mark her passing with celebration, really bother you that much?

 

It's complete double standards wishing anybody dead surely?

[zigackly]

It's complete double standards wishing anybody dead surely?

 

Even Kelvin McKenzie?

[The KillingMoon]

Even Kelvin McKenzie?

 

Normally he would be the exception obviously but yesterday even that would have been low.