Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Anny Road]

 

Oh that’s where the bank are!

[Numero Veinticinco]

I excuse Israel for being aggressive. Fair play to them for not being fucked with after what their lot went through.

Why are they not twatting Germany instead of woman and children in the desert?

Are you on a wind-up?

[Anny Road]

Nah I’ll get out of this one.

I’ll be an extremist in 2or3 posts.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Comparison of Israel to the Nazis?

 

Sue the cunt.

People either want the IHRA definition adopting or they don't. It appears that people want a "have your cake and eat it" approach.

 

The IHRA definition is arguably a quasi-legal document. So, what rules of interpretation should be adopted? Given the potential seriousness of allegations of antisemitism, the IHRA should be interpreted literally.

 

The document states that it may be antisemitism if:

 

"Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis."

 

This is clearly meant to mean saying stuff like "they're worse/as bad as the Nazis, them" etc. Corbyn does no such thing. He discusses the conditions of people living under occupation in Gaza etc and relates them to other people living under occupation by other nations. He doesn't mention Nazis at all. Didn't Japan, Italy and Russia occupy places in the second world war?

 

This complete bending of the meaning of "antisemitism" to fit is pathetic. It now appears to have gone even further than trying to class legitimate criticism of Israel as antisemitic to also trying to include sympathising with Palestinian people and making illustrative comparisons of the suffering they're subjected to.

 

These IHRA examples must now be resisted, no matter what.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Booooom!

 

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

@jeremycorbyn

 

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Israeli PM @Netanyahu's claims about my actions and words are false. What deserves unequivocal condemnation is the killing of over 160 Palestinian protesters in Gaza by Israeli forces since March, including dozens of children.

[Section_31]

Booooom!

 

 

 

Jeremy Corbyn

 

@jeremycorbyn

 

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Israeli PM @Netanyahu's claims about my actions and words are false. What deserves unequivocal condemnation is the killing of over 160 Palestinian protesters in Gaza by Israeli forces since March, including dozens of children.

He's doubling down on sweetlips

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just read on Twitter that in his long and illustrious career JC has failed to get a single piece of legislation passed. Is that true?

How does that compare with other backbenchers?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Good timing

 

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-thinks-he-did-not-lay-wreath-to-palestinian-activists-11471739

Cute bit of "journalism" that.

 

Israel's secret service is accused of assassinating those behind the 1972 siege. The PLO's liaison officer with foreign inteligence agencies, Atef Bseiso, was killed in Paris in 1992.

 

They don't actually say that Bseiso was in any way involved in the Munich Siege.  (According to Wikipedia, there's only the Israeli military intelligence who claim that; the PLO denied it.)  But by putting those two sentences side by side, they give an impression that confirms that Corbyn loves a good ol' bit of terrorism - he can't get enough! - while leaving themselves just enough legal wriggle-room.

[Jenson]

Let's pick nationalising the railway for one. Will end up with even worse punctuality than there is now and poorer choice. People forget how shit things were under British Rail.

 

British Rail became shite due to deliberate underfunding by the Tories prior to being "saved" by privatisation. See the NHS for a more contemporary example.

[Section_31]

People who bemoan nationalisation conveniently forget many of these companies are state owned, just not by our state. Arriva for example is owned by the German government.

 

Every time you find yourself with your face in someone's armpit on a train you're probably paying for some Canadian teacher's pension.

[Lee909]

He's gone to fucking far now.

I could support him through most of this but Corbyn is finished

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Ho! Ho! Ho!

 

Corbyn's got a gun.

[Rico1304]

How does that compare with other backbenchers?

What do you think?

[Spy Bee]

Corbyn response: https://t.co/CN6mg94Hu3

[Numero Veinticinco]

Corbyn response: https://t.co/CN6mg94Hu3

Jeremy Corbyn there, preaching about 'death' and 'volence', now over to Nelly for the weather.

[Rico1304]

Stolen from Twitter:

 

If you look at what current Labour backbenchers have achieved, on FOBTS, loan sharks, children's funeral fees and more, they effected change that helped people. I can't see Corbyn ever did. He just voted against his own side, usually with the Tories.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Stolen from Twitter:

 

If you look at what current Labour backbenchers have achieved, on FOBTS, loan sharks, children's funeral fees and more, they effected change that helped people. I can't see Corbyn ever did. He just voted against his own side, usually with the Tories.

You seem to be trying to make a point?

[Rico1304]

You seem to be trying to make a point?

I think it’s a simple point.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Is it that voting against the measures of the Blair government is a good thing?

[Rico1304]

Is it that voting against the measures of the Blair government is a good thing?

Oh man, that’s poor. You know it’s poor too.

 

Not one piece of legislation but loads of foreign trips.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Oh man, that’s poor. You know it’s poor too.

It was an attempt to illustrate the importance of actually posting what you mean.

 

Not one piece of legislation but loads of foreign trips.

Again, you seem to be trying to make a point without wanting to say what your opinion is. It feels like you don't want to lock yourself in to an opinion. SD does it too. Implications abd insinuations aren't useful. There's way too much room for misunderstanding.

[Rico1304]

It was an attempt to illustrate the importance of actually posting what you mean.

 

Again, you seem to be trying to make a point without wanting to say what your opinion is. It feels like you don't want to lock yourself in to an opinion. SD does it too. Implications abd insinuations aren't useful. There's way too much room for misunderstanding.

What a load of fucking tosh. It’s you, once again, trying to make yourself look clever.

 

Man of the people Corbyn changed fucking nothing for the people he was representing. Ever. Now, if he’d been an MP solely worried about his constituents perhaps that’s forgivable, but we know that’s not the case.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

What do you think?

I think you haven't even checked.

[sir roger]

Stolen from Twitter:

 

If you look at what current Labour backbenchers have achieved, on FOBTS, loan sharks, children's funeral fees and more, they effected change that helped people. I can't see Corbyn ever did. He just voted against his own side, usually with the Tories.

 

And Corbyn voted against all of those bills ? I am disgusted if he did.

 

Your posts used to be interesting on this thread, Rico , as an alternative view to our mainly Corbyn-love  , but you seem to have gone a bit manic recently , sub-Daily Mail stuff.

 

On the Cemetery shit , all of the suspected Munich terrorists' graves have now been revealed and not a single one of them is buried in the graveyard in question , the Arabic inscription on the wreath relates to an Israeli atrocity which was condemned unanimously by the United Nations ( Including Thatcher ) the picture appears to have been photoshopped and Netanyahu is a cunt. Not necessarily in that order.

[Strontium]

Man of the people Corbyn changed fucking nothing for the people he was representing. Ever. Now, if he’d been an MP solely worried about his constituents perhaps that’s forgivable, but we know that’s not the case.

He's MP for Islington and his website has more mentions of Israel than it does Islington. Read into that what you will.