Racism

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Stopped in a car by the met police. Claiming it's because she is black. People accusing her of doctoring the footage or something and being rude to the police. The same people being shitty about her haven't said zip about a rapist tory mp of course. 

I love the plod excuse for stopping her, that they'd done a check on the registration number and mistyped it, so it said the car was registered in Yorkshire. 

 

 

[Duff Man]

My car's also registered in Yorkshire and I've never been stopped whilst driving around north London, something I've done a lot of over the last year.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Genuine question, not relating to any specific case, but is it necessarily racist to get stopped if you're a young black man in an area of black on black crime?

Any given incident is not necessarily racist, but there appears to be an obvious pattern of disproportionate numbers of black people being stopped.

[VladimirIlyich]

8 hours ago, Duff Man said:

My car's also registered in Yorkshire and I've never been stopped whilst driving around north London, something I've done a lot of over the last year.

Sounds like your drug dealing is doing a roaring trade.

[Strontium]

11 hours ago, Duff Man said:

My car's also registered in Yorkshire and I've never been stopped whilst driving around north London, something I've done a lot of over the last year.

 

Is it something you've done a lot of while large areas of Yorkshire are under lockdown?

[Duff Man]

28 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

Is it something you've done a lot of while large areas of Yorkshire are under lockdown?

No.

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Duff Man said:

No.

Careful, he might grass you.

[Duff Man]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Careful, he might grass you.

I've absolutely no doubt he would.

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

I've absolutely no doubt he would.

Without a doubt. 

[Duff Man]

 

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Sure as night follows day. Pathetic.

[Strontium]

You are, indeed, absolutely pathetic. The shithouse's shithouse.

[Duff Man]

Yeah it's definitely me who's the shithouse, you unendingly strange little man.

[Duff Man]

Full fash before the decade's out?

 

 

[Bjornebye]

11 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Full fash before the decade's out?

 

 

Just shows what a rather large amount of cunts we have in the uk 

[Duff Man]

The question is what the fuck you actually do about it, given the same bastards make up a large proportion of voters in key seats across the country.

[Duff Man]

I'd like to state, for the record, that Progressive Patriotism is not the answer.

[mattyq]

Is this anybody from on here?

Proper little Tory parroting all their lies

 

 

[aRdja]

38 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

I'd like to state, for the record, that Progressive Patriotism is not the answer.

I’ve read something from Matthew Goodwin saying to win the next election the sweet spot is economically left and socially right. Not sure if that’s progressive patriotism..

[TheHowieLama]

11 minutes ago, aRdja said:

I’ve read something from Matthew Goodwin saying to win the next election the sweet spot is economically left and socially right. Not sure if that’s progressive patriotism..

Centrists

By aRdja, 20 Feb 2020

 

 

 

On 20/06/2020 at 21:56, Lee909 said:

Centrist = Fence sitting, splintered arses, that want to pretend they don't secretly support the tories. 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

9 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Is this anybody from on here?

Proper little Tory parroting all their lies

 

 

If people are fleeing the general risk of war then they are NOT refugees, legally speaking. 

 

The graphic strips the issue of all context. 

 

"Why not claim asylum in one of the safe countries they went through?"

 

It's not that straightforward. They might have been under the control/guidance of a people smuggler and followed their advice. They might not have encountered the immigration authorities of these countries as, as illegal entrants, they were probably hiding in the back of a refrigerated/articulated lorry. 

 

And, then there's the question of why these folks choose the UK instead of France/Germany etc (they don't, sometimes, there's lots of asylum seekers in France/Germany too)? 

 

Again, they've sometimes paid money to a people smuggler. They probably put trust in them and follow everything they suggest. Then there's the fact that our police and immigration authorities are generally less harsh than others, in the sense that we don't tend to batter them with truncheons or leave them on the streets, hungry, like places like France, Italy and Greece do (not to mention the Eastern European countries). Plus, they might choose here due to having family here, or a larger support network as there may be more people of their nationality in the UK than other countries. 

 

Then there's just basic human instinct. I think there's a misconception that all asylum seekers are ill-educated, simple folk. That's not true. Asylum seekers consist of a wide social demographic. If an educated, professional person is leaving their home country, their friends and family and their livelihood behind, possibly forever, isn't it just human instinct to not necessarily think of staying in the next safe country, but instead trying to reach and lodge an asylum claim in a country where you can continue to work, be educated, live a decent standard of life and benefit from government schemes and policies that might help you reunite with your family members? 

 

Plus, there's also the removal policies of some countries to consider. In the UK, if you're from certain countries and your asylum claim is refused, you still won't be removed back to your country of origin if the general conditions there are deemed not to be safe. And, the asylum seekers and people smugglers/agents know all this and it plays a part in what country they decide to lodge their asylum claim in. 

 

The whole issue is far more complicated and nuanced than a silly graphic like that suggests. 

 

Bellends. 

[mattyq]

Completely agree

Simple solutions to complex problems are always wrong and always the choice of the dictator and the fucking imbecile

[Lee909]

10 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Completely agree

Simple solutions to complex problems are always wrong and always the choice of the dictator and the fucking imbecile

Going by the results in the GF band voting we could do with a dictatorship. Sometimes people just need to be told what's best, especially if I agree with that view

[mattyq]

1 minute ago, Lee909 said:

Going by the results in the GF band voting we could do with a dictatorship. Sometimes people just need to be told what's best, especially if I agree with that view

Haha

You know what they say about power corrupting and absolute power?

Look at Usher

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

If people are fleeing the general risk of war then they are NOT refugees, legally speaking. 

 

The graphic strips the issue of all context. 

 

"Why not claim asylum in one of the safe countries they went through?"

 

It's not that straightforward. They might have been under the control/guidance of a people smuggler and followed their advice. They might not have encountered the immigration authorities of these countries as, as illegal entrants, they were probably hiding in the back of a refrigerated/articulated lorry. 

 

And, then there's the question of why these folks choose the UK instead of France/Germany etc (they don't, sometimes, there's lots of asylum seekers in France/Germany too)? 

 

Again, they've sometimes paid money to a people smuggler. They probably put trust in them and follow everything they suggest. Then there's the fact that our police and immigration authorities are generally less harsh than others, in the sense that we don't tend to batter them with truncheons or leave them on the streets, hungry, like places like France, Italy and Greece do (not to mention the Eastern European countries). Plus, they might choose here due to having family here, or a larger support network as there may be more people of their nationality in the UK than other countries. 

 

Then there's just basic human instinct. I think there's a misconception that all asylum seekers are ill-educated, simple folk. That's not true. Asylum seekers consist of a wide social demographic. If an educated, professional person is leaving their home country, their friends and family and their livelihood behind, possibly forever, isn't it just human instinct to not necessarily think of staying in the next safe country, but instead trying to reach and lodge an asylum claim in a country where you can continue to work, be educated, live a decent standard of life and benefit from government schemes and policies that might help you reunite with your family members? 

 

Plus, there's also the removal policies of some countries to consider. In the UK, if you're from certain countries and your asylum claim is refused, you still won't be removed back to your country of origin if the general conditions there are deemed not to be safe. And, the asylum seekers and people smugglers/agents know all this and it plays a part in what country they decide to lodge their asylum claim in. 

 

The whole issue is far more complicated and nuanced than a silly graphic like that suggests. 

 

Bellends. 

Excellent post.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

7 hours ago, Duff Man said:

Full fash before the decade's out?

 

 

Remember the week that Alan Kurdi died? When people saw his tiny drowned body in the papers, there were a few days when most people realised that asylum seekers and refugees are human. 

 

Shame it didn't last.