Falklands: Should we stay or leave?

[Guest TK-421]

This is all a bit simplistic but the way I see it they're closer to Argentina than us so the islands are theirs.

 

I don't understand why 2,000 people can't be moved back here. It's small fry. Stick them in the Shetlands or something, it will be a little colder but they'll get by. Try it, they might like it.

 

If the roles were reversed and there was an Argentinian island next to us, and they started sending warships, would we passively accept it? Would we shite, we'd kick off and go all Modern Warfare 3 on them but the maps would be a bit better.

[VladimirIlyich]

This is all a bit simplistic but the way I see it they're closer to Argentina than us so the islands are theirs.

 

I don't understand why 2,000 people can't be moved back here. It's small fry. Stick them in the Shetlands or something, it will be a little colder but they'll get by. Try it, they might like it.

 

If the roles were reversed and there was an Argentinian island next to us, and they started sending warships, would we passively accept it? Would we shite, we'd kick off and go all Modern Warfare 3 on them but the maps would be a bit better.

 

The situation is pretty much the same as the Iraq and Afghanistan situations.

The politicians pretend its humanitarian but its all about the resources and their supply lines.

Thats fair enough I suppose,its just sickening to keep hearing them constantly lying about it.

[Jose Jones]

The situation is pretty much the same as the Iraq and Afghanistan situations.

The politicians pretend its humanitarian but its all about the resources and their supply lines.

Thats fair enough I suppose,its just sickening to keep hearing them constantly lying about it.

 

Which is all bollocks anyway and not worth killing people over. Sit down, cut a deal, everyone's a winner. To paraphrase a marvellous Outkast anti-war song, don't get your dick out, Cameron, unless you're the one that's going to be using it.

[Section_31]

I demand the Faroe Islands are ceded to the UK based on the fact they're closer to us than they are to Denmark.

[Jose Jones]

I demand the Faroe Islands are ceded to the UK based on the fact they're closer to us than they are to Denmark.

 

They'd be Scottish I'm afraid, so hands off English pigdog.

[a stoner]

At least it will be something different to watch on the tele for a while and a conflict that is legal in the eyes of the UN.

[a stoner]

This is all a bit simplistic but the way I see it they're closer to Argentina than us so the islands are theirs.

 

I don't understand why 2,000 people can't be moved back here. It's small fry. Stick them in the Shetlands or something, it will be a little colder but they'll get by. Try it, they might like it.

 

If the roles were reversed and there was an Argentinian island next to us, and they started sending warships, would we passively accept it? Would we shite, we'd kick off and go all Modern Warfare 3 on them but the maps would be a bit better.

 

Best give the channel islands to the French then and the Isle of Man to the Scots (as they obviously aren't part of the UK).

[Section_31]

At least it will be something different to watch on the tele for a while and a conflict that is legal in the eyes of the UN.

 

Won't even be worth watching, it'll just be Prince Harry pressing the button on a Patriot missile system and shouting 'shall we have at them? I should say we shall!'

[Jose Jones]

Best give the channel islands to the French then and the Isle of Man to the Scots (as they obviously aren't part of the UK).

 

The Channel Islands fall into two separate self-governing bailiwicks, the Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Bailiwick of Jersey. Both are British Crown Dependencies, and neither is part of the United Kingdom.

 

That's the kind of shit the Falklands needs to be. Self-governing, with the inhabitants getting to choose whether to have British or Argentinian heritage if they want - and give the Argies a bit of a taste of the mineral/oil/seabird poo.

[Guest ShoePiss]

The Channel Islands fall into two separate self-governing bailiwicks, the Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Bailiwick of Jersey. Both are British Crown Dependencies, and neither is part of the United Kingdom.

 

That's the kind of shit the Falklands needs to be. Self-governing, with the inhabitants getting to choose whether to have British or Argentinian heritage if they want - and give the Argies a bit of a taste of the mineral/oil/seabird poo.

 

Or we could just tell the Argentinians to fuck off.

[a stoner]

The Channel Islands fall into two separate self-governing bailiwicks, the Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Bailiwick of Jersey. Both are British Crown Dependencies, and neither is part of the United Kingdom.

 

That's the kind of shit the Falklands needs to be. Self-governing, with the inhabitants getting to choose whether to have British or Argentinian heritage if they want - and give the Argies a bit of a taste of the mineral/oil/seabird poo.

 

Could still fuck em off to the French though.

[Anubis]

The present situation is nothing like 1982. This Conservative government isn't on it's arse like Thatcher's. In 1982 Thatcher's deliberate inaction allowed an invasion. By sending a ship there the present government has reinforced the message that the Islands are defended and it acts as a deterrent to avoid conflict.

 

As for giving the islands up - I don't think so. Whether you agree with the way in which the events of 1982 took place the fact remains the population want to remain part of the UK and soldiers lost their lives re-taking and defending it.

 

There is more legitimacy in fighting to retain part of your sovereign territory than there ever was in a phony Bush-led war in Iraq, sold to the UK population on the back of a single-sourced intelligence dossier by a Labour government happy to allow misinformation about the range of battlefield chemical weapons to inform public opinion. At the time of going to war in Iraq over 60% of the public supported it. Now that's hoodwinking.

[Guest TK-421]

Best give the channel islands to the French then and the Isle of Man to the Scots (as they obviously aren't part of the UK).

 

I wouldn't have a problem with that. Seems logical again in both cases.

[s(k)aturation]

I'd have a large rib eye steak and Malbec dinner with that Argentinian president bird, regardless of her post-30 weathering.

 

And I don't think the Falklands would come up in conversation.

[Jose Jones]

Should give Gibraltar to Spain as well. That's completely pointless.

 

Bit of a sad and sorry demise of the empire isn't it? From ruling two thirds of the world to clinging to shite bits of rock that no-one really gives a shit about, like the Falklands, Gibraltar and Scotland.

[s(k)aturation]

Should give Gibraltar to Spain as well.

 

"God knows how they ever got an Armada together." B. Fawlty, Swanage.

[Guest ShoePiss]

How about Australia? We should give that back too.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Nah, Australia belongs to the Aborigines, Jose Jones feels so strong about this that he's gonna move his fat arse off his sofa and give up his house to one of them.

[Magic Sponge]

We've been sending warships there for the past 30 years. It's one destroyer and a prince who flys around counting the penguin population for six weeks.

 

If we wanted to, we could base the whole of our Armed forces there because it's got fuck all to do with Argentina.

[Magic Sponge]

Fuck it. I might ask my next door neighbour if he wants half of my back garden because he doesn't like the fence I've put up.

[VladimirIlyich]

The present situation is nothing like 1982. This Conservative government isn't on it's arse like Thatcher's. In 1982 Thatcher's deliberate inaction allowed an invasion. By sending a ship there the present government has reinforced the message that the Islands are defended and it acts as a deterrent to avoid conflict.

 

As for giving the islands up - I don't think so. Whether you agree with the way in which the events of 1982 took place the fact remains the population want to remain part of the UK and soldiers lost their lives re-taking and defending it.

 

There is more legitimacy in fighting to retain part of your sovereign territory than there ever was in a phony Bush-led war in Iraq, sold to the UK population on the back of a single-sourced intelligence dossier by a Labour government happy to allow misinformation about the range of battlefield chemical weapons to inform public opinion. At the time of going to war in Iraq over 60% of the public supported it. Now that's hoodwinking.

 

No its not as bad as that tory government in as much as they would lose an election if called tomorrow but if an election was called tomorrow they most likely still wouldnt win a majority either. So anything that detracts from the state of the economy is an excellent strategy from their point of view.

[aws]

Let's tell the Taiwanese to call it a day and let China takeover. Sri Lanka - that's close to India isn't it? Fuck knows who should get Madagascar.

[aws]

Can anyone sum this up for me?

 

If we stay there could be trouble. If we leave it could be double.

[VladimirIlyich]

I wonder why the Argies chose this time? Apart from what Section said about cuts in the forces,them being stretched and smelling blood etc,they must have had some encouragement from another source,usually the US has some sort of hand in it,like an ambassador or military diplomat or something?

Its obvious that if there was a conflict that the UK would 'win' as the UK armed forces are up there with the best when left in charge of their own strategy and i'm sure the Argies know this and when they have a prosperous economy whats the point of jeopardising it even for the oil and mineral resources?

There are shenanigans afoot over there too i believe.

[dennis tooth]

We've been sending warships there for the past 30 years. It's one destroyer and a prince who flys around counting the penguin population for six weeks.

 

If we wanted to, we could base the whole of our Armed forces there because it's got fuck all to do with Argentina.

 

Touched a nerve there?