Falklands: Should we stay or leave?

[Stu Monty]

It would be nice if the Argentinians decided that they were going to allow the islanders self determination, it would show them taking the moral high ground, but I feel that this is a small battle in a much bigger picture.

 

You're talking about a part of South America that, when it was weak (and deliberately weakened), has had international pirates plundering its resources for all they could. It's hard not to understand that now, as the South Americans become stronger (partially because some of them deliberately built walls against toxic finance), they would look to claim the oil off their coast and ignore the bleatings from one of the major ports that the pirates set sail from.

 

When South America's elected officials were being murdered and their countries raped of their resources very few powerful nations said much, as it wasn't strategically wise. It'll be interesting to see how many take the same attitude if the South Americans push this issue.

[Section_31]

They're kicking off because some MPs are going for a tour of the Falklands now. Is there anything they don't consider 'provocative'? So we're not allowed to go there now, send ships etc, ever? We should send a fucking big consignment of Yorkshire Tea and Timmy Mallett in a big Union Jack Richard Branson air balloon.

[WaltonRed]

Does anyone NOT think this is going to end up in conflict?

[Stu Monty]

A lot might depend on how much Brazil want to throw their weight into it. They carry more clout than Argentina with the rising powers (I think they work with the likes of China, India and Turkey on a lot of stuff) and could pull a lot more strings to apply pressure.

 

I doubt it would lead to conflict but you can bet there are some massive lobbying powers from the UK, US and Israel in the ears of some powerful people right now.

[Guest TK-421]

Great way to work in a starship.troopers reference there.

 

Pah, check out post #69.

 

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/gf-general-forum/76949-falklands-should-we-stay-leave-3.html#post2149501

[Anubis]

Pah, check out post #69.

 

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/gf-general-forum/76949-falklands-should-we-stay-leave-3.html#post2149501

 

Only makes sense if this were an Argentine forum. Pop culture reference fail.

[Section_31]

Does anyone NOT think this is going to end up in conflict?

 

They're just testing resolve IMO, I don't know what the political situation is over there, but they could just be trying to divert attention from their own shit.

 

They'd be fucking stupid to try anything though. Our troops have been in perpetual conflict for the last decade plus, they're about as battle hardened as you can get. But they'd never get close enough to land troops anyway, subs patrol the area and a squadron of Typhoons defends the airspace, their most advanced fighters are ageing Mirages, the Typhoons wouldn't even need to take off to take them out. The only reason we needed a task force back then was because we'd been caught with our kecks down by the sneaky motherfuckers, it's a different scenario now and indeed - a different world, I mean fuck - we could see them coming on Google maps.

[VladimirIlyich]

They're just testing resolve IMO, I don't know what the political situation is over there, but they could just be trying to divert attention from their own shit.

 

They'd be fucking stupid to try anything though. Our troops have been in perpetual conflict for the last decade plus, they're about as battle hardened as you can get. But they'd never get close enough to land troops anyway, subs patrol the area and a squadron of Typhoons defends the airspace, their most advanced fighters are ageing Mirages, the Typhoons wouldn't even need to take off to take them out. The only reason we needed a task force back then was because we'd been caught with our kecks down by the sneaky motherfuckers, it's a different scenario now and indeed - a different world, I mean fuck - we could see them coming on Google maps.

 

If it took 3 years to get there!