Other football 2016/17.

[Jairzinho]

You have a poor memory.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Do you really think that's the reason I think the Brazilian Ronaldo was a better footballer?

 

I think it comes into most peoples decisions on here more than they'd like to admit. That and him (Cristiano) being a preened twat.

 

CR is absolutely awesome by almost any metric. Speed, acceleration, ball control, tricks, power, finishing, heading, endurance. The most impressive for me is how he (and Messi) have stayed at these heights for a decade. It's absolutely incredible. The original Ronaldo might be better in one or two areas, but I feel people would cherry pick those to come to the conclusion that he's a better 'footballer'. Having said that maybe it's what we are looking at to make the better 'footballer' that is the issue.

[Carvalho Diablo]

Aside from him not being a particularly likeable character and his history with the Mancs,i would consider him a great player.

 

Nah mate, he's a great big greasy cunt, that's about it.

[Ne Moe Imya]

From what I can remember he was an out and out goalscorer, a fantastic one who for not one single seasin didn't reach the heights that Messi and Ronaldo have sustained for a decade.

 

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Cristiano Ronaldo was and is an absolutely amazing player, certainly in the top 20 all-time and his exploits should not be minimised just because he played for the Mancs or is one of the most unlikeable superstars ever.

 

However, the original Ronaldo was a force of nature at his peak.  Sure, his peak was brief, but when his body didn't betray him he was the closest I've ever seen to the cliche "he scores when he wants."  Just because the goal numbers are lower doesn't mean he wasn't as good; you have to put it in context of the era.

 

I'm willing to accept that some people would put peak Messi above peak Ronaldo, and that's a reasonable argument (though I would disagree).  However, I don't think it's even up for discussion who was the most exciting to watch, Ronaldo was destroying some of the best defenders in history on a regular basis and for pure excitement the kind of dribbling and power and pace he showed hasn't been equaled.  

 

Seriously, find a good youtube compilation of the original Ronaldo and just remind yourself of the kind of player he was.  If you think all he was was an "out-and-out goalscorer" you owe it to yourself to have an entertaining jog down memory lane.

[Trumo]

I think it comes into most peoples decisions on here more than they'd like to admit. That and him (Cristiano) being a preened twat.

 

CR is absolutely awesome by almost any metric. Speed, acceleration, ball control, tricks, power, finishing, heading, endurance. The most impressive for me is how he (and Messi) have stayed at these heights for a decade. It's absolutely incredible. The original Ronaldo might be better in one or two areas, but I feel people would cherry pick those to come to the conclusion that he's a better 'footballer'. Having said that maybe it's what we are looking at to make the better 'footballer' that is the issue.

 

That is one area where he's definitely become worse. His dribbling is actually pretty shit but all the athleticism aspects of his game when combined are the reason he is at such a heightened level.

 

Real Madrid have made a big song and dance about him hitting the 400-goal mark when he actually stands one shy according to the official records. He's bound to score it at the weekend anyway, but it's part of the dick-waving contest between Real Madrid and Barcelona that see's them count goals and trophies in friendlies as well as rewriting history in a bid for one-upmanship.

[KMD7]

If Ronaldo MK1 hadn't suffered those appalling injuries I think he'd have become hands down the greatest ever player, even ahead of my own choice Maradona.  Just a fantastic player at his peak.  I'd still have him in my top 10 as he had a fine career as it was

 

CR is a fantastic player though and should be in any top ten list, the humongous prick.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I see Mourinho has got a new nickname.

 

L.S. Lowry.

 

As he's one of the best people at drawing in Manchester.

[Jay86]

Brazilian Ronaldo is part of the reason I love football, he was head and shoulders above Cristiano Ronaldo in terms of natural ability, he would decide he wanted to score so he'd just run past everyone on the pitch and score. Cristiano Ronaldo has worked harder than any footballer in history to be the best he could be and should be commended for it but in terms of actual pure footballers who you love watching time and time again Messi, Ronaldo and Zidane piss all over him, football seemed like art whenever them three were on the ball not some dick who throws his arms in the air having a tantrum if the ball is within 1mm of where he wants it. Even Rio who basically wanks himself silly whenever he talks about him said it used to annoy him when he did it.

 

I can't stand the prick not just because of his history more so because he's a selfish egotistical whinging wanker but his goals and goal record deserve everyone's respect, this sounds ridiculous because of his goals to game record and I'm probably wording it completely wrong but he's not even great at finishing, he's great at hitting the ball really hard on target and the power using takes it in, he rarely places the ball in the corner he just tries taking the leather off the ball everytime he strikes it, take Messis winner in the Classico for example he calmly approached the ball and passed it into the net, Ronaldo would have tried whacking it in but with so many bodies in and around the ball it would have took some strike to go in but there's no chance he does what Messi does in that situation.

[Lario]

I don't think fake Ronaldo is a great player. A freak of a goalscorer, yeah. Great player? Nah.

 

Brazilian Ronaldo on the other hand, a complete freak of a player. It's a pity he's not around in today with proper training methods and stuff. Or even 40 camera angles for that matter!

 

there's no way in hell fake Ronaldo would've scored this goal. The first bit of contact, he'd have been rolling on the ground like a fanny. Real Ronaldo just beasts it.

 

[Josef Svejk]

Portuguese Andy Cole.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

I don't think fake Ronaldo is a great player. A freak of a goalscorer, yeah. Great player? Nah.

 

Wow

[Jairzinho]

If he looked like Luke Chadwick he'd be playing in the Portuguese 8th division now. 

 

Real Madrid, the biggest football club on the planet, have tickled his balls for the best part of a decade because he's probably made them about a billion quid in merchandise sales.

 

A great player, but surely his numbers have to be looked at in context. In isolation, like most other numbers in football, they're pretty meaningless.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

He was the best player in the world before Real 'tickled his balls'

[Grinch]

Brazilian Ronaldo scored when he wanted too but apparently didnt want too anywhere near as much as Messi and C Ronaldo. Yea im not buying it.

 

I dare say if his career path was Sporting, Liverpool, Real Madrid. There would be a different opinion on him as a player too.

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[3 Stacks]

Ronaldo vs. C. Ronaldo really just boils down to whether you appreciate a stratospheric but short prime, or a long brilliant career.

 

Think Ronaldo was the more talented footballer but to pooh-pooh C.Ronaldo in comparison is just stupid. The latter has clearly had a far superior career and that counts for something, no matter what hypothetical's people want to make about Ronaldo.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

He scored 6 goals in his last 2 champions league games against Bayern and Atletico. And it's barely been mentioned. Because it's pretty normal for him.

[Hand Shandy]

Only just clocked the Ajax Lyon game is on at 5.45pm today.

 

Just in case anyone else assumed it was tomorrow night like I did...

[magicrat]

I see Mourinho has got a new nickname.

 

L.S. Lowry.

 

As he's one of the best people at drawing in Manchester.

He a matchstick cunt

[Trumo]

Francesco Totti is retiring at the end of this season. He's over 40 now and hasn't played that much in the last couple of years, but he has been a loyal servant and genuine club legend for Roma for well over 20 years now. Apparently, nearly a third of current Serie A players weren't even born when he made his debut for Roma! They'll probably retire his No10 shirt too.

[TheHowieLama]

They should - brilliant player.

[cloggypop]

Dolberg! 2 nil Ajax

 

Buy him please Jurgen

[3 Stacks]

Dolberg! 2 nil Ajax

 

Buy him please Jurgen

 

Yeah, Dolberg looks great, also impressed by Sanchez. Ajax been absolutely bossing it in the last 15 minutes. Their pressing is really impressive.

[lifetime fan]

Only just clocked the Ajax Lyon game is on at 5.45pm today.

 

Just in case anyone else assumed it was tomorrow night like I did...

Apparently it's because it's Remembrance Day in Holland tomorrow.

[cloggypop]

Apparently it's because it's Remembrance Day in Holland tomorrow.

Yeah, there's a nationwide 2 minute silence at 8pm. Everything stops. Traffic, public transport, everything.

[TheHowieLama]

Apparently it's because it's Remembrance Day in Holland tomorrow.

 

Yep - forgot that.