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A bit more background.    I live and work in Coventry. I’m proud to raise my family here and call this city my home. But I’ve also been on strike since January, and I need to tell you why.

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It was the Lib Dems that helped deliver this Johnson government and what's almost certainly going to be a no deal Brexit,  that's surely beyond dispute.    The opposition parties had Johnson

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3 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Its very easy to be selective.

Like just copy and pasting the negative aspects of the "views" section of their Wiki entry and leaving out the positive comments? Selective, like that? 

 

Len McCluskey called the formation of JVL a "positive move forward".[27] David Rosenberg, author and founding member of the Jewish Socialists' Group, described JVL as "a broader, more inclusive, more open-minded group — not fixated on defending Israel...".[7] Labour Party leader, Jeremy Corbyn has said JVL are "committed to fighting anti-Semitism and making sure there is a Jewish voice in the party. We already have the Jewish Labour Movement. JVL was established last year and I think it is good that we have organisations within the party that are giving that voice to people."[28] Writer Richard Seymour described the organisation as "rooted in radical and revolutionary internationalism".[29] Stephen Sedley stated that "...pro-Israeli groups such as the Jewish Labour Movement [are] seeking to drive out pro-Palestinian groups like the Jewish Voice for Labour by stigmatising them..."[30][31]

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Like just copy and pasting the negative aspects of the "views" section of their Wiki entry and leaving out the positive comments? Selective, like that? 

 

Len McCluskey called the formation of JVL a "positive move forward".[27] David Rosenberg, author and founding member of the Jewish Socialists' Group, described JVL as "a broader, more inclusive, more open-minded group — not fixated on defending Israel...".[7] Labour Party leader, Jeremy Corbyn has said JVL are "committed to fighting anti-Semitism and making sure there is a Jewish voice in the party. We already have the Jewish Labour Movement. JVL was established last year and I think it is good that we have organisations within the party that are giving that voice to people."[28] Writer Richard Seymour described the organisation as "rooted in radical and revolutionary internationalism".[29] Stephen Sedley stated that "...pro-Israeli groups such as the Jewish Labour Movement [are] seeking to drive out pro-Palestinian groups like the Jewish Voice for Labour by stigmatising them..."[30][31]


Seems to be contagious to only present the point of view you’re most comfortable with in all this shitfest, so I thought I’d tag in.

 

I notice the negatives are more widely available though.  
 

Colour me shocked.

 

Edit: Why not Lansman?

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23 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Thinking about the reaction to this though and it kind of shows Starmer's (or any new leader's) dilemma. Has there been a labour leader in modern times with so many people personally devoted to him? If Ed Miliband, Brown or dare I say it - Blair been suspended by their successor, would the fallout have been anywhere near as ferocious?

 

Corbyn wants Blair tried for war crimes in The Hague; Starmer pensioning Corbyn off to his allotment is positively gentlemanly in comparison.

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Cool.
 

‘The organisation has been described as controversial[32] and the Jewish Labour Movement has called its views an "extreme fringe".[33] Jewish Leadership Council chairman Jonathan Goldstein has said that JVL is "not representative of our community".[34] Board of Deputies of British JewsPresident Marie van der Zyl has referred to JVL as "a tiny organisation whose odious views are representative of no-one but themselves."[35] Jon Lansman, founder of Momentum, stated that JVL "is an organisation which is not just tiny but has no real connection with the Jewish community at all" and "It doesn't represent the Jewish community in a way that JLM clearly does represent the Labour wing of the Jewish community." Luke Akehust, director of We Believe in Israel and secretary of Labour First, has called for JVL to be proscribed.[36]’

Looked up the first one the  Jewish leadership council. It states its "proud of its support of Israel"  after that I didnt waste my time digging out the rest.

 

I wonder why they dont like Jeremy Corbyn?

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I think some people are going to be in for a massive shock when Starmer reveals his hand in a few years and loses by a fucking landslide regardless of how this Corbyn situation plays out.

Mmmm, in fairness it would have to be some fail to match the catastrophic shit show Corbyn served up in December. It was quite the shoeing in all honesty. 

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I think some people are going to be in for a massive shock when Starmer reveals his hand in a few years and loses by a fucking landslide regardless of how this Corbyn situation plays out.

While I share your belief, only time will tell. 

 

But, I do find it strange that people who go on about the cult of Corbyn etc, etc now seem to be cocksure that the cult members will, in the future, happily vote for a party lead by the man who tried to kick out their dear spiritual leader. 

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