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Should the UK remain a member of the EU


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  1. 1. Should the UK remain a member of the EU

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1 minute ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Do you actually believe this?

 

While we're still in a pandemic, NHS workers have been offered a poss-poor excuse of a real-terms pay cut; that's how far "respect" stretches in this cunt-led shithole country.

I think you've misinterpreted my post Angry. I do agree with you about the NHS and them granting workers respect but I was coming at it from a slightly different angle. Probably my fault for not explaining it clearly.

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7 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Do you actually believe this?

 

While we're still in a pandemic, NHS workers have been offered a poss-poor excuse of a real-terms pay cut; that's how far "respect" stretches in this cunt-led shithole country.

Surely if the shops are selling less stuff, they will need less staff  ?

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1 minute ago, Arniepie said:

Surely if the shops are selling less stuff, they will need less staff  ?

Supermarkets made hugh profits during the pandemic, they also received government hand outs. This staff shortages was predicted two years ago, its government incompetence that has got us to where we are today.

 

Sorry, to answer your question, supermarket's want to sell lots of stuff, I'd be very surprised if they lay off workers because of a short term problem.

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12 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

An inflation rate of between 2.5 and 3.9 per cent is nothing to concern us, its really not. It's not bothering the yanks and it's not bothering the Germans. 

And you know this from speaking to German and American workers who are getting real-terms pay cuts?

 

Or are you just assuming it doesn't bother anyone else because it doesn't bother you?

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17 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I think you've misinterpreted my post Angry. I do agree with you about the NHS and them granting workers respect but I was coming at it from a slightly different angle. Probably my fault for not explaining it clearly.

It was a genuine question: do you think that workers will now be treated with the respect they deserve?

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2 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

It was a genuine question: do you think that workers will now be treated with the respect they deserve?

I certainly do believe workers are being treated with more respect since Brexit, wage rises, staff shortages and increased working conditions proves the point

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12 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

And you know this from speaking to German and American workers who are getting real-terms pay cuts?

 

Or are you just assuming it doesn't bother anyone else because it doesn't bother you?

Good god your going full Ted Cruz, 60% of Americans think the economy is doing well, they've got over 5% inflation. Germany are also experiencing higher than normal inflation. Ours is a poxy 2 5%... You really do need to get a grip, Bidens right 'no one gives a fuck about single digit inflation. 

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10 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

It was a genuine question: do you think that workers will now be treated with the respect they deserve?

Of course I know this is a really really old fashioned concept but you know these staff shortages? Their is a possible solution, and it does mean respecting low paid workers and it also means giving them more pay.

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I certainly do believe workers are being treated with more respect since Brexit, wage rises, staff shortages and increased working conditions proves the point

Workers in some sectors have had temporary payrises, in response to shortages mainly driven by Covid. Most workers are getting fuck all.

 

The only change in conditions I've seen is an increase in Fire & Rehire and the loosening of Health & Safety regulations designed to protect workers.

 

The country is still being run by cunts who think that we're shit off their shoes.

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41 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Good god your going full Ted Cruz, 60% of Americans think the economy is doing well,

they've got over 5% inflation. Germany are also experiencing higher than normal inflation. Ours is a poxy 2 5%... You really do need to get a grip, Bidens right 'no one gives a fuck about single digit inflation. 

Because Ted Cruz is famous for his concern for lower-paid workers. Obviously.

 

That statistic about what 60% of Americans think couldn't be less relevant if it tried. I mean, the fact that Germany (and other countries) are experiencing higher than usual inflation, due to Covid-related shortages,  doesn't add anything to the debate, but at least it's on the same subject (i.e. facts, not opinions).

 

Since you're refusing to answer, maybe you could get your new friend Joe Boden to explain why poor people should be happy about real-terms pay cuts.

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16 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Ok, so what do you think is an acceptable rate of inflation? 

Stupid question. I doubt there's an economist anywhere who will pick any specific number and call it an "acceptable rate of inflation".

 

The point is that millions of workers - including many on poverty pay - are getting pay rises below the forecast rate of inflation; in other words, poor people are getting pay cuts. I think this is a bad thing. Gnasher doesn't give a fuck.

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The definition of madness, if you google it, should deffo read: Entering the Brexit thread on TLW. 

 

(I will come back tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after, and it will still be AoT and Gnasher saying the same things over and over and over) see you tomorrow guys)

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9 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

While we're still in a pandemic, NHS workers have been offered a poss-poor excuse of a real-terms pay cut; that's how far "respect" stretches in this cunt-led shithole country.

 

They got clapped, what more could they possible need. 

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10 hours ago, Arniepie said:

Apparently we are 3 weeks away from.a total breakdown of the supply train.

Who would have thought a plan devised by boris johnson,nigel Farage, paul nuttall and ann widdecombe would end in tears?

 

What plan?

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8 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Workers in some sectors have had temporary payrises, in response to shortages mainly driven by Covid. Most workers are getting fuck all.

 

You need to take your head out of the sand Angry.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-hiring-surged-june-economy-reopened-ons-2021-07-15/

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The only change in conditions I've seen is an increase in Fire & Rehire and the loosening of Health & Safety regulations designed to protect workers.

 

The country is still being run by cunts who think that we're shit off their shoes.

 

Also, upsetting yourself over 2.5% - 3.9% interest rates is bizarre.

 

As the evidence I've produced shows, the States are doing fine, Germany ditto...both have higher interest rates than us..

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-economy-unemployment-idUSKCN2DD2QC

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19 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Not really, you're veiws on inflation are economically very right wing....

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/28/business/economy/inflation-republicans-biden-spending.html

 

 

Ted Cruz " economy may be booming but what about inflation Mr President"

 

Joe Biden " I've yet to meet a man worried about inflation"

 

Angry of T.... 'hold my beer Ted'

 

 

https://apnews.com/article/consumer-spending-gross-domestic-product-economy-business-ea9f24b146848b0821b549abb6cf78c8

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10 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Of course I know this is a really really old fashioned concept but you know these staff shortages? Their is a possible solution, and it does mean respecting low paid workers and it also means giving them more pay.

 

 

 

 

 

O'Conner is spot on with her above tweet and so is the lady below.... 

 

https://moneyweek.com/economy/uk-economy/603381/the-answer-to-britains-staff-shortages-raise-wages

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On 02/08/2021 at 21:43, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Independent haulage firms, construction companies, pubs, hotels, etc. can't afford these rates of pay -

 

Nice of you to come out to bat for employers yet again Angry but if you and the Labour Party in general are seriously going to spout this sort of rhetoric on the doorsteps at the next election we'll be looking at another Tory landslide...

 

 

Huge profits for Taylor Wimpy, the results were out this week...

 

 

https://www.constructionenquirer.com/2021/08/04/profits-set-to-hit-820m-at-taylor-wimpey/

 

 

 

 

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as I've already pointed out, the big multinationals (like Aldi) will be best placed to survive this Covid/Brexit storm.  This will leave them with an even more powerful market position.  Of course, they could choose to use that position to reward workers instead of shareholders and executives, but somehow I don't see it.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2021/aug/04/taylor-wimpeys-profits-show-what-a-waste-sunaks-stamp-duty-giveaway-was

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