Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[moof]

It’s the Labour members fault for voting for someone the corporate media won’t allow to be prime minister...

wow

[sir roger]

The Lords coup is off , after Commons and Lords colleagues told them to behave themselves. The overheated MSM coverage has probably done what they wanted anyway , will be interesting to see the level of coverage of their consequent climbdown.

[Stickman]

Let's face it those two gutless twats Johnson and Hunt aren't going to call Trump out so I guess it's left to Jezza 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/corbyn-trump-iran-crisis-tensions-nuclear-deal-us-tanker-seized-oil-a9013656.html%3famp

 

[sir roger]

Gloria Del Piero not standing at the next election , goes with a plea for tolerance towards right-wingers ( ' We are all left-wing or we wouldn't be in the Labour Party ' - stop laughing at the back ). This from a lady who was given a shadow cabinet place in 2016 only to throw it in Corbyn's face during the chicken coup , and was subsequently forgiven and given another shadcab position. 

 

Strangely enough there seems to be no comments in this line from her when anybody even vaguely left wing ran the reality of McNicol & his cohorts finding excuses to lash you out of the party , or given no hope whatsoever of ever becoming an MP.

 

Sic Transit Gloria.

[Jairzinho]

Gutted.

[sir roger]

Ha Ha , just reading her husband is Watson's communications adviser as well.

[Stickman]

I see that man of principles and integrity Wes Streeting is getting a bit of stick on Twitter for not being a man of principles and integrity

Who'd have thought it 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/TomDRogers1/status/1152179828390584322

[Captain Howdy]

The Labour party is a fucking mess

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 hours ago, sir roger said:

Gloria Del Piero not standing at the next election , goes with a plea for tolerance towards right-wingers ( ' We are all left-wing or we wouldn't be in the Labour Party ' - stop laughing at the back ). This from a lady who was given a shadow cabinet place in 2016 only to throw it in Corbyn's face during the chicken coup , and was subsequently forgiven and given another shadcab position. 

 

Strangely enough there seems to be no comments in this line from her when anybody even vaguely left wing ran the reality of McNicol & his cohorts finding excuses to lash you out of the party , or given no hope whatsoever of ever becoming an MP.

 

Sic Transit Gloria.

In fairness to her, she's been quick to quash the media headlines about her leaving because of "intolerance".

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

8 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

In fairness to her, she's been quick to quash the media headlines about her leaving because of "intolerance".

 

 

So now the mirror, the alleged Labour paper, is shit stirring? Incredible.

[moof]

Shame about Gloria De Piero, means I’ll have to find a new bae MP. Laura Pidckock and Rebecca Long-Bailey are the front runners. Better politics but not quite as lovely. Heidi Allen would be in with a shout but is about to lose her seat. Hmm... I’ll have to have a think about it. 

[Barrington Womble]

4 hours ago, moof said:

It’s the Labour members fault for voting for someone the corporate media won’t allow to be prime minister...

wow

Do you want a labour prime minister? Surely the job of a labour member is to elect a leader who can be one. You can either accept the world we live in and be a realist or stick to who is ideal for you personally.  The reality is Corbyn will never be prime minister or certainly elected prime minister.... He may hit a 2 week jackpot in the unlikely event there's a vote of no confidence in the government and he forms a government for long enough to extend art 50. Then goes on to lose the GE. 

[Barrington Womble]

2 minutes ago, moof said:

Shame about Gloria De Piero, means I’ll have to find a new bae MP. Laura Pidckock and Rebecca Long-Bailey are the front runners. Better politics but not quite as lovely. Heidi Allen would be in with a shout but is about to lose her seat. Hmm... I’ll have to have a think about it. 

See we can agree on some things. 

[moof]

Just now, Barry Wom said:

Do you want a labour prime minister? Surely the job of a labour member is to elect a leader who can be one. You can either accept the world we live in or be a realist. The reality is Corbyn will never be prime minister or certainly elected prime minister.... He may hit a 2 week jackpot in the unlikely event there's a vote of no confidence in the government and he forms a government for long enough to extend art 50. Then goes on to lose the GE. 

I want a socialist prime minister. Not a new labour prime minister, a neoliberal prime minister, a compromised or corrupt prime minister, a bought prime minister.

 

If we are picking leaders based on who the corporate press will allow to become prime minister then I’d rather not participate in the whole charade. Fuck it off. 

[moof]

Just now, Barry Wom said:

See we can agree on some things. 

Haha. Fair play mate 

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, moof said:

I want a socialist prime minister. Not a new labour prime minister, a neoliberal prime minister, a compromised or corrupt prime minister, a bought prime minister.

 

If we are picking leaders based on who the corporate press will allow to become prime minister then I’d rather not participate in the whole charade. Fuck it off. 

But here's the thing. We could probably get a decent left prime minister. But not someone from the 80s aligned with the middle East as much as Corbyn has been. We also got more good government from the Blair and brown years than any of the Tory years before and after. Anyone within the labour party is a better choice than hunt or Boris, because that's what we're getting with Corbyn in charge of labour. 

[Jairzinho]

Who is your choice as the decent left wing candidate to take over from Corbyn?

[moof]

1 minute ago, Barry Wom said:

But here's the thing. We could probably get a decent left prime minister. But not someone from the 80s aligned with the middle East as much as Corbyn has been. We also got more good government from the Blair and brown years than any of the Tory years before and after. Anyone within the labour party is a better choice than hunt or Boris, because that's what we're getting with Corbyn in charge of labour. 

It’s not 1997 any more mate. We have some real big challenges ahead of us, I don’t think they can be solved by us settling on anyone better than Boris or Hunt 

[Barrington Womble]

Just now, moof said:

It’s not 1997 any more mate. We have some real big challenges ahead of us, I don’t think they can be solved by us settling on anyone better than Boris or Hunt 

But Corbyn will not get elected. That is the absolute reality of the situation. Our Rebecca might, gardener or Starmer. But Corbyn just will not win a GE. And when he loses we get 5 years of Hunt or Boris and that would be an absolute disaster and it seems likely that cunt Johnson is an almost certainty to win their leadership contest. For me it's very much anyone but Johnson, I just can't contemplate him as prime minister. He's going to get his foot in the door this week, but with any luck brexit will force him to a GE before the year is out. Labour have to be ready to win when that happens. Right now we don't even know if labour will campaign on staying in or leaving the EU in that GE. That's the mess we're in. 

[Section_31]

Been reading Orwell's autobiography and he slags off the Labour party a bit but sees them as the best of a bad bunch. He says they're socialist in name only but have no real desire to see the end of capitalism because they draw their power from the unions, many of whose members could lose their jobs in such a scenario, and that they're content largely to be in permanent opposition as a force merely for agitation.

 

He talks about how the smaller socialist parties are hopeless because they agitate against the middle classes when they should be trying to get them aboard, but instead end up driving them into the arms of the Tories through fear. 

 

Deffo still a lot of truth in all that today.

[moof]

23 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

But Corbyn will not get elected. That is the absolute reality of the situation. Our Rebecca might, gardener or Starmer. But Corbyn just will not win a GE. And when he loses we get 5 years of Hunt or Boris and that would be an absolute disaster and it seems likely that cunt Johnson is an almost certainty to win their leadership contest. For me it's very much anyone but Johnson, I just can't contemplate him as prime minister. He's going to get his foot in the door this week, but with any luck brexit will force him to a GE before the year is out. Labour have to be ready to win when that happens. Right now we don't even know if labour will campaign on staying in or leaving the EU in that GE. That's the mess we're in. 

Obviously, I disagree. I don’t think the Conservative party wins a general election against a Corbyn led Labour in the current climate. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, moof said:

Obviously, I disagree. I don’t think the Conservative party wins a general election against a Corbyn led Labour in the current climate. 

Ah, but do you think Corbyn wins a general election against the Tories? I mean, they didn't win the last one, but they're in power. Corbyn winning a majority... I just can't see it. I just can't. 

[moof]

2 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Ah, but do you think Corbyn wins a general election against the Tories? I mean, they didn't win the last one, but they're in power. Corbyn winning a majority... I just can't see it. I just can't. 

He probably won’t be allowed, but we have to try. 

[moof]

I take that back. Yes, I think he can 

[Jairzinho]

I have absolutely no fucking idea what would happen in a general election.