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US Election 2020 Thread


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33 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

There's been at least one issue with Michigan's results. It might not turn out to be as bad as they're saying here but the Biden and Trump vote totals had been altered in Antrim County leaving Biden winning because of software used, they're trying to get more counties to check if they had the same problem.

 

 

https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/antrim-county-clerks-office-to-review-ballots-following-report-of-skewed-results

 

https://www.9and10news.com/2020/11/06/antrim-county-election-results-corrected-after-software-issue-skewed-initial-results/

The irony, IMO, that fact the county clerk came forward and told them about the glitch AGAINST Republicans, is evidence of a transparent and open process. 

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1 minute ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

If Biden does win, how does the transition period work ? Does it start on the day of the election, or on the day the result is officially declared ?

Sticks the eviction notice through the letter box immediately. 

 

Then gets the builders and decorators round to measure up. 

 

Then goes round and kicks up all the shitty white roses they just planted in the garden 

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7 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

If Biden does win, how does the transition period work ? Does it start on the day of the election, or on the day the result is officially declared ?

 

... and will Trump file law suits because the transition period commences AFTER election day, rather than on it!!!

 

 

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Can't really see any law suit lasting long once Pennsylvania is secured, he doesn't need the other closely contested states. 

 

He will file hundreds of cases with no merit in any of them. 

 

Be interesting when the party want to accept defeat and start leaving him on his jack

 

Reports earlier that most of his staff just didn't turn up for work today large groups of white house employees outside milling round on phones and not working. 

 

Reckon most of his personal staff have left because they likely know they'll get shafted for wages owed

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8 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

The irony, IMO, that fact the county clerk came forward and told them about the glitch AGAINST Republicans, is evidence of a transparent and open process. 

 

Yeah good point, there's this now too from Michigan's Department of State so it might be about settled :

 

The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a result of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County Clerk. The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results.

 

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/secretary-jocelyn-benson-says-false-claims-from-ronna-mcdaniel-have-no-merit

 

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This needs a rewrite

 

 

 

lt's over, Donny. lt's over!

 

 

Nothing is over! Nothing! You can't just switch it off!

lt wasn't my war. You asked me, l didn't ask you!

l did everything to win, but someone didn't let us win.

And at home at the airport those maggots were protesting.They spat at me, called me a baby murderer and shit like that!

Why protest against me, when they weren't there, didn't experience it?

 

 

 

lt was hard, but it's in the past.

 

 

 

For you! Civilian life means nothing to me. There we had a code of honor.You watch my back, l watch yours. Here there's nothing!

 

 

 

 

You're the last of an elite troop, don't end it like this.

 

                

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1 hour ago, M_B said:

It's at times like this that I like to gauge opinion of American nutjobs on ar15.com - the website for the discerning automatic weapon owner.

 

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Gentlemen-Listen-up/5-2388163/

 

 

Gentlemen, I implore you to listen intently. Observe keenly. Come to terms that almost 250 years ago our founding fathers, in their infinite and divine wisdom, foresaw and predicted an event such as this. The rise of tyranny by no other name. The fallen nature of man creeping toward and advancing this tyranny and the subsequent usurping of our nation’s sacred soul. They provided us, divinely placed midway down the line of their ancestry, the tools at hand to be prepared to defend Her. But they could not find a practical means to transcend centuries to provide us the resolve, cohesion, or courage. That part of the freedom equation is on us.

Now that the darkness is almost upon us, what shall we do? Do we roll over and lock each other’s shackles while pretending they’re not too tight? Turn a blind eye while evil prepares to pluck the other one from Lady Liberty’s stoic gaze? Or do we stand as rightful heirs to the inheritance of freedom and liberty that was given to us by God and our Founders so many moons ago, and put in place the most literal and insurmountable exemplification of the UNITED states that has ever been seen in history.

Now is the time to stir your soul and stow your common grievances. This may well be the final stand to protect freedom on earth, for OUR descendants.

I hope we get beat

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23 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yeah good point, there's this now too from Michigan's Department of State so it might be about settled :

 

 

 

 

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/secretary-jocelyn-benson-says-false-claims-from-ronna-mcdaniel-have-no-merit

 

Full Statement ;

 

False claims from Ronna McDaniel have no merit


NOVEMBER 6, 2020

In response to the false claims made by Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, the Michigan Department of State issues the following statements of fact:

  • Michigan’s elections were conducted fairly, effectively and transparently and are an accurate reflection of the will of Michigan voters.
     
  • The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a result of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County Clerk. The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results.
     
  • Like many counties in Michigan, Antrim County uses the Dominion Voting Systems election management system and voting machines (ballot tabulators.) The county receives programming support from Election Source. Tabulators are programmed to scan hand marked, paper ballots. When machines are finished scanning the ballots, the paper ballots are retained and a totals tape showing the number of votes for each candidate in each race is printed from the machine.
     
  • In order to report unofficial results, county clerks use election management system software to combine the electronic totals from tabulators and submit a report of unofficial results. Because the clerk did not update software, even though the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate results were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results.
     
  • The correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals tape and on the ballots themselves. Even if the error in the reported unofficial results had not been quickly noticed, it would have been identified during the county canvass. Boards of County Canvassers, which are composed of 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans, review the printed totals tape from each tabulator during the canvass to verify the reported vote totals are correct.
     
  • The software did not cause a misallocation of votes; it was a result of user human error. Even when human error occurs, it is caught during county canvasses.
     
  • It is also completely false that the county had to or will have to hand count all their ballots. The ballots were properly counted by the tabulators. The county had to review the printed tabulator results from each precinct, not each individual ballot.
     
  • As with other unofficial results reporting errors, this was an honest mistake and did not affect any actual vote totals. Election clerks work extremely hard and do their work with integrity. They are human beings, and sometimes make mistakes. However, there are many checks and balances that ensure mistakes can be caught and corrected.
     
  • As Detroit officials have stated, hundreds of challengers from both parties were inside their absent voter counting board all afternoon and evening. And even after some left, there were always challengers from both parties in the room. Dozens of reporters were in the room as well. Further, some windows were covered to stop those outside from filming the people and private information in the counting board, while other windows were left uncovered to ensure additional transparency.
     
  • As was stated by Chris Thomas, who as a contractor for the Detroit City Clerk’s Office served as an advisor on the execution of this election and led challenger relations, and who is the former Michigan Director of Elections, who served under both republican and democrat Secretaries of State during his 40-year-tenure with the Bureau of Elections, no ballots were backdated. Rather, a clerical error was made when some ballot envelopes were received in Detroit satellite offices. Although employees stamped a date of receipt on the envelopes, an employee failed to complete the transaction for receiving the ballot by saving that date in the Qualified Voter File. Therefore, at the absent voter counting board, after discussion with Republican challengers who chose not to challenge the process, staff was instructed to enter that date stamped on the envelope ensuring that no voters were disenfranchised by the clerical error.
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