The Plot Thickens

[Mr T]

The point is not that mate, the point is the almost constant lies of how much we haven't spent compared to our rivals.

 

But we've got to spend more to get our squad close to the total value of their squad. We were behind (by quite a lot), they were infront. To catch up we need to spend more or be extremely clever with our transfer business.

[Roy Hobbs]

The point is not that mate, the point is the almost constant lies of how much we haven't spent compared to our rivals.

 

That's a fair point, we have spent a lot but we need to, just to keep up.:(

[neopulian]

Yeah, it's all Rick's fault that he sanctioned several shite signings for his last few managers.

 

"Morientes for £7m? Fuck off Rafa!"

 

He's not a fucking scout.

 

Did anyone think signing Morientes, an established international striker, who performed admiringly well for the teams before and after Liverpool, for mere 6.5 mils was a terrible idea? ANYONE?

 

Some signings just don't work out.

[KevieG]

You had a Honda S 2000, your neighbor had a Porche Boxter. You drove your S-2000 around a year, and spent $5000 to repair the wear and tear, also add some improvement. Your neighbor spent $3000 on his boxter for wear and tear.

 

Does it mean you have a better car because you spent more money than him on the car in the past year? Not in my world.

 

 

We were the porsche when Ferguson took over.

 

You can spin this in a lot of ways.

[philyhamann]

I'm still waiting for the break down.

[KevieG]

Did anyone think signing Morientes, an established international striker, who performed admiringly well for the teams before and after Liverpool, for mere 6.5 mils was a terrible idea? ANYONE?

 

Some signings just don't work out.

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Balleuge was pretty vociferous.

[KevieG]

I'm still waiting for the break down.

 

If I give you the breakdown will you accept it?

[silverlining]

Did anyone think signing Morientes, an established international striker, who performed admiringly well for the teams before and after Liverpool, for mere 6.5 mils was a terrible idea? ANYONE?

 

Some signings just don't work out.

 

I didn't want him, but that's not my point. Blaming Parry for some of the dross signbed by Houllier and Benitez is hardly fair.

[neopulian]

We were the porsche when Ferguson took over.

 

You can spin this in a lot of ways.

 

So? We fucked it up and drove it into the ditch under Msr. Souness' guidance. The current reality is they are the Porche.

[philyhamann]

I'm waiting.

[Guest TK-421]

Where can one purchase these sticks?

Everyone seems to have one apart from me.

 

Just asking a question, that's all. It gets kind of tiresome when threads go off the rails like this and it was Rashid who mentioned spending £71m or whatever it was.

[Heighway]

Did anyone think signing Morientes, an established international striker, who performed admiringly well for the teams before and after Liverpool, for mere 6.5 mils was a terrible idea? ANYONE?

 

Some signings just don't work out.

 

Agreed. Was a bargain at the time and should have done a lot better. I didn't even think he was that bad and when you look at our strikeforce now we should have kept him.

[silverlining]

Agreed. Was a bargain at the time and should have done a lot better. I didn't even think he was that bad and when you look at our strikeforce now we should have kept him.

 

He was that bad. In fact he was fucking shit. He scored 12 goals.

[Section_31]

If Rashid was alive during the blitz he'd have spent his days moaning about binmen.

[KevieG]

So? We fucked it up and drove it into the ditch under Msr. Souness' guidance. The current reality is they are the Porche.

 

They have rebuilt their side in the time that Rafa has been here by signing quality spending roughly the same as us.

Personally I don't think they were that far ahead of us when Rafa began, but thats up for discussion.

 

All I'm saying is that we've spent at least as much as them by whatever means you choose to judge these things.

 

For the record, I think quality players aren't the sole reason we aren't challenging.

[silverlining]

If Rashid was alive during the blitz he'd have spent his days moaning about binmen.

 

Er.....what?

[philyhamann]

They took a chance on CRonaldo and he developed into potentially one of the all time greats. Take him out of the team, they really aren't better than us.

[Mr T]

I didn't want him, but that's not my point. Blaming Parry for some of the dross signbed by Houllier and Benitez is hardly fair.

 

Who decides the wage rate and contract length then? I thought Rafa has been criticised on here (by Rashid) for trying to get involved with that.

 

And yes, if someone is constantly fucking up in the transfer market you don't give them a £14M leaving bonus to sign a calcium deficient sprinter.

[KevieG]

I'm waiting.

 

This thread in my hometown forum spells it out.

 

It does it from 91 to present, its a long read but its as comprehensive a compilation as I have seen, the fella who did it put in a lot of work.

 

It puts us more or less level with them. Lot of arguing the points from fans of both sides

 

United - Liverpool net spending in Modern Times - Peoples Republic Of Cork Forums

[Rashid]

Start with this past year..

 

Benayoun £5m

Babel £11.5m

Torres £20m

Mascherano £17m

Leto £1.8m

Insua £1.3m

Itandje £2m

Skrtel £6.5m

Lucas £6m

 

I work that lot out at £71.1m, we sold Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Palleta, Sissoko for a combined £30m.

 

Fregie has bought Anderson, Nani, Hargreaves and Kszciak for about £51m plus a £6m loan fee for Carlos Tevez.

 

They also sold Heinze, Smith, Rossi and Richardson for about £25m.

[Guest TK-421]

Why is it relevant?

[kopitegaz]

I'm still waiting for the break down.

 

I'm having a breakdown, reading some of this, if that helps.

[KevieG]

Start with this past year..

 

Benayoun £5m

Babel £11.5m

Torres £20m

Mascherano £17m

Leto £1.8m

Insua £1.3m

Itandje £2m

Skrtel £6.5m

Lucas £6m

 

I work that lot out at £71.1m, we sold Garcia, Cisse, Bellamy, Gonzalez, Palleta, Sissoko for a combined £30m.

 

Fregie has bought Anderson, Nani, Hargreaves and Kszciak for about £51m plus a £6m loan fee for Carlos Tevez.

 

They also sold Heinze, Smith, Rossi and Richardson for about £25m.

 

Just read the thread I linked Rashid, its tedious but everything is there.

[Carra_is_legend]

This thread is utter wank.

[philyhamann]

This thread in my hometown forum spells it out.

 

It does it from 91 to present, its a long read but its as comprehensive a compilation as I have seen, the fella who did it put in a lot of work.

 

It puts us more or less level with them. Lot of arguing the points from fans of both sides

 

United - Liverpool net spending in Modern Times - Peoples Republic Of Cork Forums

 

So looking at that, bar one season, they have spent more than us under Rafa not mentioning all the players they've bought in the years before.