Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[Rico1304]

6 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I don't mean to be facetious, but I'm not sure what aspect of my question confused you.

In that case it‘ll be dead easy to ask

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

In that case it‘ll be dead easy to ask

You quoted it at the top of this page.

[Rico1304]

Just now, Babb'sBurstNad said:

You quoted it at the top of this page.

Why is this so hard?  
 

Ask me the full question here and I’ll answer it. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

Why is this so hard?  
 

Ask me the full question here and I’ll answer it. 

I'm not sure why you can't scroll up to it. But, for the sake of your fingers, I'll repeat it, verbatim:

 

"Is aimed, or is being aimed?"

[Rico1304]

Just now, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I'm not sure why you can't scroll up to it. But, for the sake of your fingers, I'll repeat it, verbatim:

 

"Is aimed, or is being aimed?"

Nope. Full question. That’s all you’ve had to do about 4 times now. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

Nope. Full question. That’s all you’ve had to do about 4 times now. 

That was the full question. I can post a link if you'd like.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

 

[Rico1304]

I have no idea how I can make this clearer
 

ask me a fucking question.  In words. No links. 

[TheHowieLama]

Rico in full rope a dope mode. Ali would be proud.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

The links have words, and the context in which the question was asked. In reply to your words. It's not an obtuse trick.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Just now, TheHowieLama said:

Rico in full rope a dope mode. Ali would be proud.

Ah, fuck it, I fell for it didn't I?

 

I'm off to bed. Well played Rico.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

5 hours ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

A quick google of "drag queen story hour" shows up pictures of drag Queens in schools, the vast majority wearing what some may consider overly sexualised clothing and styles.

 

"BuT wHo iS tO sAy WhAt iS OvErLy SeXuAl???" I say overly sexualised simply because a teacher would not be permitted to wear such clothing/attire. It would be deemed wholly unprofessional and not normal in an educational environment. Drag queen story hour is not a "drag show" but it is a possible example of the overtly sexual aspects of some of drag culture being brought into school and normalised. 

I've just done a Google image search on drag queen story hour and got loads of results. Not one of them was remotely sexualised. 

 

Deciding that it's sexualised because it would be unprofessional for a teacher is a bit weird. You could have a kid's story hour with a bloke dressed as a clown, or a wizard, or Shrek or any other fancy dress which would be unprofessional for a teacher; that doesn't make it sexual.

[Mudface]

5 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

You could have a kid's story hour with a bloke dressed as a clown, or a wizard, or Shrek or any other fancy dress which would be unprofessional for a teacher; that doesn't make it sexual.

[Paulie Dangerously]

7 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I've just done a Google image search on drag queen story hour and got loads of results. Not one of them was remotely sexualised. 

 

Deciding that it's sexualised because it would be unprofessional for a teacher is a bit weird. You could have a kid's story hour with a bloke dressed as a clown, or a wizard, or Shrek or any other fancy dress which would be unprofessional for a teacher; that doesn't make it sexual.

 

 

As ever, your unwillingness to deviate from the rod you made for yourself is making it impossible for you to discuss sensibly. If you don't see some of the attire in those pictures as sexualised and inappropriate in a professional environment with children then I would suggest you are the one who is, "a bit weird." And no, I'm not going to start posting pictures to compare and get dragged into a strawman about what length skirt is acceptable or whatever next deflection argument you'll use to avoid admitting you're wrong about it all. 

 

Your nightmare on this thread continues. 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

 

 

As ever, your unwillingness to deviate from the rod you made for yourself is making it impossible for you to discuss sensibly. If you don't see some of the attire in those pictures as sexualised and inappropriate in a professional environment with children then I would suggest you are the one who is, "a bit weird." And no, I'm not going to start posting pictures to compare and get dragged into a strawman about what length skirt is acceptable or whatever next deflection argument you'll use to avoid admitting you're wrong about it all. 

 

Your nightmare on this thread continues. 

 

 

 

 

Saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

 

OK, let's consider what counts as "sexualised" clothing in general. Granted that, to a degree, it's in the eye of the beholder, but most people would agree that it would include stuff like clothes that are skimpy, clingy or see-through; stuff that reveals flesh or undies; and stuff that fits with traditional fantasies (like the "sexy" nurse, schoolgirl, French maid or all those shitty Halloween costumes).  My image search returns nothing like that. 

Put it this way, if you saw any of those storytime outfits on a woman, would your eyes fly out of your head like a cartoon wolf?  I seriously doubt it.

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

 

OK, let's consider what counts as "sexualised" clothing in general. Granted that, to a degree, it's in the eye of the beholder, but most people would agree that it would include stuff like clothes that are skimpy, clingy or see-through; stuff that reveals flesh or undies; and stuff that fits with traditional fantasies (like the "sexy" nurse, schoolgirl, French maid or all those shitty Halloween costumes).  My image search returns nothing like that. 

Put it this way, if you saw any of those storytime outfits on a woman, would your eyes fly out of your head like a cartoon wolf?  I seriously doubt it.

So they are dressing up as women, but not the women that actually work with kids,

or their mums.  Izzy went to nursery at about 9 months, she’s been in school for 4 years and I can count on the fingers of no hands the number of times her teachers have worn clownish makeup and full length ball gowns. I have no experience of her teaching assistants wearing gold lamè and her headmistress has never taken assembly in 6 inch heels and a micro dress.  
 

Parents can go to drag shows whenever they want, these people offer the service in pubs and clubs all over.  Why are they doing it to fucking kids?  
 

Im so glad other people are seeing through your bullshit.  

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Er... they are hired as entertainers. Why would they dress the same as the teachers? As long as they're not wearing anything that could honestly be described as "sexualised" (which is clearly something that shouldn't be allowed and, judging from Google image searches, isn't) then you're going to have to shift your goalposts again and find another reason for your opposition to them.

 

[Paulie Dangerously]

23 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong.

 

OK, let's consider what counts as "sexualised" clothing in general. Granted that, to a degree, it's in the eye of the beholder, but most people would agree that it would include stuff like clothes that are skimpy, clingy or see-through; stuff that reveals flesh or undies; and stuff that fits with traditional fantasies (like the "sexy" nurse, schoolgirl, French maid or all those shitty Halloween costumes).  My image search returns nothing like that. 

Put it this way, if you saw any of those storytime outfits on a woman, would your eyes fly out of your head like a cartoon wolf?  I seriously doubt it.

See:

 

1 hour ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

And no, I'm not going to start posting pictures to compare and get dragged into a strawman about what length skirt is acceptable or whatever next deflection argument you'll use to avoid admitting you're wrong about it all. 

 

Your nightmare on this thread continues

Laughable.

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Er... they are hired as entertainers. Why would they dress the same as the teachers? As long as they're not wearing anything that could honestly be described as "sexualised" (which is clearly something that shouldn't be allowed and, judging from Google image searches, isn't) then you're going to have to shift your goalposts again and find another reason for your opposition to them.

 

Can’t sing unless dressed as a hooker.  What a dilemma. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Can’t sing unless dressed as a hooker.  What a dilemma. 

I've never actually been to a hooker, but I'd be very surprised if that's how they dress these days.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 minutes ago, Paulie Dangerously said:

See:

 

Laughable.

"These drag outfits are sexualised!  I refuse to justify that or say what I mean by it, but anyone who questions me is laughable!"

 

Gotta love intelligent, informed, good-faith debate!

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

"These drag outfits are sexualised!  I refuse to justify that or say what I mean by it, but anyone who questions me is laughable!"

 

Gotta love intelligent, informed, good-faith debate!

You mean the guy who has loads of experience of safeguarding?  The one you are dismissing?  That guy? 

[Bjornebye]

I’ve just imagined one of my primary school teachers (Mr Bannister, right grumpy bastard, big beard always munching on lockets which I now suspect was to mask the smell of whatever his tipple was) bursting into class dressed as Cher in the turn back time video. I must have imagined that back then. Probably why I joined the Navy. 

[Paulie Dangerously]

14 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

"These drag outfits are sexualised!  I refuse to justify that or say what I mean by it, but anyone who questions me is laughable!"

 

Gotta love intelligent, informed, good-faith debate!

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"BuT wHo iS tO sAy WhAt iS OvErLy SeXuAl???" I say overly sexualised simply because a teacher would not be permitted to wear such clothing/attire. It would be deemed wholly unprofessional and not normal in an educational environment.

I have already justified and said what I meant by it a few pages ago. I followed this up by saying that I wasn't getting into a discussion on skirt lengths etc. 

 

Your nightmare on this thread continues. 

[Rico1304]

Why would a sexual assault survivor want all women care?  

What lengths would abusers go to in order to access women?  I mean  7 years medical school and 3 post grad seems a commitment - doesn’t happen obviously