Ched Evans

[Mathewbet1]

He's one hell of a ride - Chedingtons world of adventure

[Gym Beglin]

He's a rapist, not a paedophile.

Fuck it, let's just err on the side of caution and not get him to babysit.

[Dr Nowt]

Topical one: Chedders Plays Pop (shot).

[Carvalho Diablo]

[RoboRiise]

Nup.

 

I'm just going with the jury on this one, Robo.

 

Right you are Tom.  Enjoy.

[deiseach]

Ched's dead baby, Ched's dead.

Marsellus Wallace was so mortified that he quit town and went where no one would notice him. Last seen playing up front for Wimbledon.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I can't help thinking this whole thing is a bit like people arguing whether a Chomp should be allowed back in a vending machine or not.

[magicrat]

I take it you haven't noticed my location mate...  Born and (in)bred.

Ha ha . Could be worse . After Rhyl  Oldham will be paradise for Ched 

[Fugitive]

Cheddy Cheddy Gang Bang

[stringvest]

Evans knows I'm miserable now.

 

Ched Evans For Pissed Up Girls

 

[Mathewbet1]

you know you've been raped when 'ched-ers cheese' is on your fanny

[Boss]

If Ched Evans makes a film about his appeal and he gets the conviction quashed he could call it Eraserched.

[Pureblood]

Return of the Living Ched

[TheHowieLama]

Dumb and Cheddar.

[TheHowieLama]

The Good, the Bad and the Cheddar

[skend04]

Things to do in Denver When You're Ched.

(Obvs not rape someone! That's off the agenda)

[Major Tom]

Right you are Tom.  Enjoy.

 

Given that miscarriages of justices obviously happen, Robo, I can understand why you are cynical about this verdict.

 

However, the prejudices shown by some in this thread are a big factor why a ridiculously low percentages of rapes are ever reported; never mind the case actually get to court; never mind the case actually ending in a conviction

 

Oh, and I don't care about being right. Never have.

[Dr Nowt]

Give your ched a wobble.

[FanchesterCity]

You know sex was iffy when you wake up bare with a sore Ched

[Dr Nowt]

His fellow inmates didn't get out of ched for anything less than a grand a month.

[Section_31]

Red ched redemption.

[Bjornebye]

Love, Ched, Intelligence....

[Josef Svejk]

Chevans Almighty.

 

 

[Denny Crane]

I noticed a few pages back that the memory loss of the girl was mentioned.

 

Worth pointing out Evans also claims he suffered memory loss. Evans did not recall speaking to Mcdonald on the phone or the journey with his brother to the hotel following the text from Mcdonald. But a very short time after he recalls she gave consent.

 

I would say Evans behaviour pre and post would have factored strongly into the jury's decision.

 

According to what we know, Evans let himself into the room without knocking, knowing McDonald and the girl were in an intimate moment. The Jury may have drawn their own conclusions from this as she had no verbal contact with Evans allowing permission for this to happen. So even before the topic of consent from the girl there is an issue of him getting in the room using unusual methods.

 

When you add he left using the emergency exit, McDonald left using the reception, all these details portray a picture. To me that seems where reasonable doubt differs between Mcdonald and Evans. One party had consent from the girl who had several chances to leave. The other turns up in the room, the ultimate in surprise sex and ends up leaving quickly using the emergency exit. The jury has to believe Evans asked the girl for consent. 

 

He said he could not remember making a call to Mr McDonald after receiving his text about him "getting a bird" and could not remember the taxi journey to the hotel - a taxi he shared with his brother and a friend.

He admitted "deceiving" the receptionist to get the key card to the room and then letting himself in and seeing Mr McDonald having sex with the girl.

 

The prosecutor quizzed Mr Evans on why he had left through an emergency exit.

"You left through that exit because you knew what you had done," said Mr Philpotts. "No," replied the footballer.

"And you didn't want to be seen going through reception," said the prosecutor. "No," Mr Evans said again.

Mr Philpotts asked: "What was the hurry to leave?"

Mr Evans replied: "Because I didn't want to be in the room in case my girlfriend rang me

 

 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I noticed a few pages back that the memory loss of the girl was mentioned.

 

Worth pointing out Evans also claims he suffered memory loss. Evans did not recall speaking to Mcdonald on the phone or the journey with his brother to the hotel following the text from Mcdonald. But a very short time after he recalls she gave consent.

 

I would say Evans behaviour pre and post would have factored strongly into the jury's decision.

 

According to what we know, Evans let himself into the room without knocking, knowing McDonald and the girl were in an intimate moment. The Jury may have drawn their own conclusions from this as she had no verbal contact with Evans allowing permission for this to happen. So even before the topic of consent from the girl there is an issue of him getting in the room using unusual methods.

 

When you add he left using the emergency exit, McDonald left using the reception, all these details portray a picture. To me that seems where reasonable doubt differs between Mcdonald and Evans. One party had consent from the girl who had several chances to leave. The other turns up in the room, the ultimate in surprise sex and ends up leaving quickly using the emergency exit. The jury has to believe Evans asked the girl for consent. 

 

He said he could not remember making a call to Mr McDonald after receiving his text about him "getting a bird" and could not remember the taxi journey to the hotel - a taxi he shared with his brother and a friend.

He admitted "deceiving" the receptionist to get the key card to the room and then letting himself in and seeing Mr McDonald having sex with the girl.

 

The prosecutor quizzed Mr Evans on why he had left through an emergency exit.

"You left through that exit because you knew what you had done," said Mr Philpotts. "No," replied the footballer.

"And you didn't want to be seen going through reception," said the prosecutor. "No," Mr Evans said again.

Mr Philpotts asked: "What was the hurry to leave?"

Mr Evans replied: "Because I didn't want to be in the room in case my girlfriend rang me

 

That's all extremely plausible, but then why wasn't McDonald convicted as an accessory, as he'd clearly have to be complicit in this scenario?

 

I think the case raised eyebrows not because of the question of consent but more because the two defendants' guilt / innocence was so intertwined, yet one went free and the other to jail.