Migration is the new immigration

[Red Nick]

Your country is fucked. A massive underclass weaned on welfare coupled with a massive influx of immigrants, who are either a) extremely hard working, and want to make a better life for themselves, which causes resentment as they are willing to work for less, thus undercutting wages, or b) criminals, which surprisingly enough, also causes resentment. You also have over 2000 suspected terrorists under surveillance, and a completely inept police force. Get the fuck out now, sell your house, move to Australia and harness the power of your still incredibly strong currency. Have a nice day.

 

Thats why I live in Spain and pay my taxes in spain and I actually enjoy making a contribution to Spanish economy

[Red Nick]

We should all move to Spain with the other 2 million brits who live there without learning the lingo.

 

Much better life if you try to learn the lingo

[Mark_b]

Eastern European women are fit and I for one welcome their spankable backsides

 

I second that , in me old workplace there was 3 STUNNERS, absolute stunners.

They where the reason I used to go in, got off with one of them n all but thats for another thread :whistle:

[bossy]

Much better life if you try to learn the lingo

 

I know a few who live there and can speak fluent Spanish. They love it.

[The Transporter]

The main problems with asylum seekers are not the fact that they get tons of benefits (they don't) it is the cost of processing their claim.

 

For example, someone who has been here illegally for 5 or so years gets caught driving without a licence or insurance, if they had a crash they wouldn't pay any costs as they cant afford it and aren't insured. The police nick them, wasting valuable police time getting and waiting for an interpreter to come to the station, they have to get a solicitor, the solicitor then tells then to claim asylum and he represents them for a hefty sum picked up by you or me for doing fuck all work.

 

The asylum seeker is then either housed straight away or sent to a detention centre - all the time using an interpreter to explain to them what is going on. They then have their claim heard, a caseworker is paid to process their claim, the interpreter gets more work and so does the solicitor. The claim is refused so he gets a right of appeal, if he has been here 5 years he may have set up a family here which makes it more difficult to remove him. The appeal costs more money than the actual claim as the judge will be on a fair wedge. The solicitor and interpreter also get more work for representing him at appeal.

 

When every avenue of appeal is done then you try to remove him, if he hasnt got a passport you have to apply to his country's embassy to see whether they will issue a document. Even when the flight is paid for and the escorts are booked to make sure he gets on the plane his solicitor can lodge a judicial review, the flight gets cancelled yet the money is never refunded. Now you see how costly it is for just one person, imagine that cost 200,000 times over.

[Stu Monty]

The main problems with asylum seekers are not the fact that they get tons of benefits (they don't) it is the cost of processing their claim.

 

For example, someone who has been here illegally for 5 or so years gets caught driving without a licence or insurance, if they had a crash they wouldn't pay any costs as they cant afford it and aren't insured. The police nick them, wasting valuable police time getting and waiting for an interpreter to come to the station, they have to get a solicitor, the solicitor then tells then to claim asylum and he represents them for a hefty sum picked up by you or me for doing fuck all work.

 

The asylum seeker is then either housed straight away or sent to a detention centre - all the time using an interpreter to explain to them what is going on. They then have their claim heard, a caseworker is paid to process their claim, the interpreter gets more work and so does the solicitor. The claim is refused so he gets a right of appeal, if he has been here 5 years he may have set up a family here which makes it more difficult to remove him. The appeal costs more money than the actual claim as the judge will be on a fair wedge. The solicitor and interpreter also get more work for representing him at appeal.

 

When every avenue of appeal is done then you try to remove him, if he hasnt got a passport you have to apply to his country's embassy to see whether they will issue a document. Even when the flight is paid for and the escorts are booked to make sure he gets on the plane his solicitor can lodge a judicial review, the flight gets cancelled yet the money is never refunded. Now you see how costly it is for just one person, imagine that cost 200,000 times over.

 

That's bogus asylum seekers then, isn't it? Not people fleeing persecution.

 

Any solicitor who suggests asylum to an illegal immigrant should be shot in the face.

[Strontium]

Now you see how costly it is for just one person, imagine that cost 200,000 times over.

 

Funny how we have no problem with poorer countries assuming those costs though. The UK is a tremendously wealthy country, yet we take fewer asylum seekers than the likes of Iran, Pakistan and Tanzania. If they are expected to cope, then we really ought to be too.

[Roast Beef]

Funny how we have no problem with poorer countries assuming those costs though. The UK is a tremendously wealthy country, yet we take fewer asylum seekers than the likes of Iran, Pakistan and Tanzania. If they are expected to cope, then we really ought to be too.

 

I think the quality of the services provided to refugees (genuine or bogus) is slightly higher than you'd see in Iran, Pakistan or Tanzania. And thus a bit more expensive.

[The Transporter]

That's bogus asylum seekers then, isn't it? Not people fleeing persecution.

 

Any solicitor who suggests asylum to an illegal immigrant should be shot in the face.

 

Very true but unfortunately these are the majority of the cases. Most see claiming asylum as a way of stopping the deportation process. It makes me laugh when these solicitors pass their "clients" off as genuine refugees. For example, do you think its unreasonablte for a person who can speak perfect English and has been in the country 5-7 years to have found out about or attempted to claim asylum? I don't yet when they get caught working illegally they wil just say "No one ever told me about asylum".

[The Transporter]

Funny how we have no problem with poorer countries assuming those costs though. The UK is a tremendously wealthy country, yet we take fewer asylum seekers than the likes of Iran, Pakistan and Tanzania. If they are expected to cope, then we really ought to be too.

 

Iran, Pakistan and Tanzania just put people in refugee camps which are normally run by the Red Cross and Medical Sans Frontier, they don't really fund them out their pocket. A lot of refugees never register with the government and end up destitute. Even some European countries adopt the same stance - Italy don't really care about them and shove them in a camp not far from Termini station. Greece just collar them and issue them with a notice to leave the country within 24 hours without making sure they go and France just say "see that tunnel there?, go that way!" We still take more than any developed western country, we should actualy be able to take less as we are an island and most of the flights from these countries transit somewhere else before landing here.

[Red Nick]

Our Social security system is too generous hence why some people come over to abuse it.

 

The last French PM said that if the UK had the same Social Security benefits in France then the people would stop in France etc etc

[Red Mist]

The European babes around here are hot. I place no limit on the amount of hotties coming into the UK. I will however limit their blokes to the useful ones, builders, plumbers etc. By keeping the number of foreign blokes low and foreign babes high, that'll mean there's more of the babes for me to choose from. I do only mean 'babes' though, ugly ones can stay the fuck home.

[Stu Monty]

I'd apply the same criteria most apply to immigrants to people born in this country: You either make an effort to be useful or you fuck off. There's be hundreds of thousands of hooded-up, work-shy twats being shipped over to Sudan and getting dumped there to make space for the immigrants who pass the test. They'd have fuck all to moan about as they had the chance to live in the land of opportunity and couldn't be arsed.

[mattyq]

I'd apply the same criteria most apply to immigrants to people born in this country: You either make an effort to be useful or you fuck off. There's be hundreds of thousands of hooded-up, work-shy twats being shipped over to Sudan and getting dumped there to make space for the immigrants who pass the test. They'd have fuck all to moan about as they had the chance to live in the land of opportunity and couldn't be arsed.

 

I'd sterilise everyone and if they wanted to have children they'd have to undergo several tests - intelligence, fitness (birds), chav tests etc.

If they passed then they'd be de-sterilized and be able to produce wanted, bright happy babies.

Chavs, scum, idiots etc need not apply

[Paul]

Stu, I'd just ditch democracy and put you in charge of everything. You know best. We could also use your righteous anger as a new fuel source thereby solving the environmental crisis facing the world. Bonné de douche, everyone's a winner.

[Stu Monty]

Stu, I'd just ditch democracy and put you in charge of everything. You know best. We could also use your righteous anger as a new fuel source thereby solving the environmental crisis facing the world. Bonné de douche, everyone's a winner.

 

Sounds like a plan. Make it so, number one.

[Hermes]

I think it's disgusting that the government is allowing so many Romanians into the country to take Polish jobs.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

My view is this.

 

Id send every last one of the cunts home without a penny, whether they be Wops, Chinkies, darkies, lefties, Ranjits, Guptas', Dagos' Gypos, or tinkers.

 

The only group who would be allowed free entry are those being trafficked directly into the sex trade, but upon arrival they should have their flaps sewn up and anally fisted, just to teach them a few valuable lessons about not using pregnancy as a way of scrounging off the state.

 

They would be forced to sign a disclaimer upon arrival at Dover/Hull/Newcastle/Liverpool etc, saying that they fully understand that the concept of minimum wage has been revoked in their case and they would be expected to service white British males for the sum decided by the said male. This disclaimer would also stipulate that in the event of any of the itchy arsed little strumpets falling pregnant, they would be genitally mutilated and the state would then have the right to own the child to use and exploit in whichever way it saw fit.

 

In the event of it being found that any of the existing scrounging fucking monkeys who are already here come from a war torn homeland where their human rights could not be safeguarded, they are to be housed on plague ships just off the coast of France.

 

Anybody expelled from her Majestys British Isles and dominions would be branded on the forehead to prevent any future return.

 

I think you will find that this will solve the problem reasonably quickly.

 

If anybody would like a further discussion on the riveting issue of thieving fucking darkies coming over here and using white mans housing and electricty or a copy of our manifesto, please email me here-------->

 

JohnRedwood@thereaintnoblackintheunionjack.com

[Paul]

My view is this.

 

Id send every last one of the cunts home without a penny, whether they be Wops, Chinkies, darkies, lefties, Ranjits, Guptas', Dagos' Gypos, or tinkers.

 

The only group who would be allowed free entry are those being trafficked directly into the sex trade, but upon arrival they should have their flaps sewn up and anally fisted, just to teach them a few valuable lessons about not using pregnancy as a way of scrounging off the state.

 

They would be forced to sign a disclaimer upon arrival at Dover/Hull/Newcastle/Liverpool etc, saying that they fully understand that the concept of minimum wage has been revoked in their case and they would be expected to service white British males for the sum decided by the said male. This disclaimer would also stipulate that in the event of any of the itchy arsed little strumpets falling pregnant, they would be genitally mutilated and the state would then have the right to own the child to use and exploit in whichever way it saw fit.

 

In the event of it being found that any of the existing scrounging fucking monkeys who are already here come from a war torn homeland where their human rights could not be safeguarded, they are to be housed on plague ships just off the coast of France.

 

Anybody expelled from her Majestys British Isles and dominions would be branded on the forehead to prevent any future return.

 

I think you will find that this will solve the problem reasonably quickly.

 

If anybody would like a further discussion on the riveting issue of thieving fucking darkies coming over here and using white mans housing and electricty or a copy of our manifesto, please email me here-------->

 

JohnRedwood@thereaintnoblackintheunionjack.com

 

Even if this is "satirical", you're out of order.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

Even if this is "satirical", you're out of order.

 

What do you mean 'EVEN IF' ????

As if there can be any fucking doubt....does it sound remotely serious ?

[Stu Monty]

My view is this.

 

Id send every last one of the cunts home without a penny, whether they be Wops, Chinkies, darkies, lefties, Ranjits, Guptas', Dagos' Gypos, or tinkers.

 

The only group who would be allowed free entry are those being trafficked directly into the sex trade, but upon arrival they should have their flaps sewn up and anally fisted, just to teach them a few valuable lessons about not using pregnancy as a way of scrounging off the state.

 

They would be forced to sign a disclaimer upon arrival at Dover/Hull/Newcastle/Liverpool etc, saying that they fully understand that the concept of minimum wage has been revoked in their case and they would be expected to service white British males for the sum decided by the said male. This disclaimer would also stipulate that in the event of any of the itchy arsed little strumpets falling pregnant, they would be genitally mutilated and the state would then have the right to own the child to use and exploit in whichever way it saw fit.

 

In the event of it being found that any of the existing scrounging fucking monkeys who are already here come from a war torn homeland where their human rights could not be safeguarded, they are to be housed on plague ships just off the coast of France.

 

Anybody expelled from her Majestys British Isles and dominions would be branded on the forehead to prevent any future return.

 

I think you will find that this will solve the problem reasonably quickly.

 

If anybody would like a further discussion on the riveting issue of thieving fucking darkies coming over here and using white mans housing and electricty or a copy of our manifesto, please email me here-------->

 

JohnRedwood@thereaintnoblackintheunionjack.com

 

ATK's got an alias I see.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

ATK's got an alias I see.

 

 

FFS, it was parody, irony, sarcasm, satire, call it whatever you like.

 

The point being that there really are people walking around with these 'values' and truly believe in them, albeit, my post was extreme.

Back in the 90's the MP John Redwood, with Lilley and Portillo and his cronies, actually stood up and made political diatribes vs single mothers and effectively said it was the 'state's right to choose' what happened to the citizens of the underclass, and their stance on immigration wasnt that far removed either....hence the JohnRedwood spoof email address, coupled with 'their aint no black in the Union Jack' bit, which bozos actually go around spouting.

 

Did that post look as though it was supposed to be taken seriously to you or anybody? Branding people, plague ships....didnt it sound just a touch extreme, even for morons holding views which are anti-immigration ?

 

It seems ok for people to start threads advocating finding humour in other peoples misfortune and tragedy and when people speak out against it they get pillioried.....thats just dandy, make whats obviously and pisstake parody post on the subject of immigration and everybody gets a sense of humour bypass....., chill the fuck out people.

 

Im not an alias for ATK or anybody else, Im on here for some banter, some humour, some music and some football discussion, no more, no less.

[RedKnight]

Ifwhiteamericatoldthetruthforonedayitsworldwouldfallapart

[tokyojoe]

FFS, it was parody, irony, sarcasm, satire, call it whatever you like.

 

The point being that there really are people walking around with these 'values' and truly believe in them, albeit, my post was extreme.

Back in the 90's the MP John Redwood, with Lilley and Portillo and his cronies, actually stood up and made political diatribes vs single mothers and effectively said it was the 'state's right to choose' what happened to the citizens of the underclass, and their stance on immigration wasnt that far removed either....hence the JohnRedwood spoof email address, coupled with 'their aint no black in the Union Jack' bit, which bozos actually go around spouting.

 

Did that post look as though it was supposed to be taken seriously to you or anybody? Branding people, plague ships....didnt it sound just a touch extreme, even for morons holding views which are anti-immigration ?

 

It seems ok for people to start threads advocating finding humour in other peoples misfortune and tragedy and when people speak out against it they get pillioried.....thats just dandy, make whats obviously and pisstake parody post on the subject of immigration and everybody gets a sense of humour bypass....., chill the fuck out people.

 

Im not an alias for ATK or anybody else, Im on here for some banter, some humour, some music and some football discussion, no more, no less.

 

 

I found it rather amusing.

[Strontium]

FFS, it was parody, irony, sarcasm, satire, call it whatever you like.

Don't worry mate, it was pretty obviously a parody, although I wasn't 100% sure until I saw the email address at the end.

 

And to be honest, it read more like an Elmyn Noos post than an atk one.