Keir Starmer

[Rushies tash]

32 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

There seems to be clear water now between a party which apparently wants to safeguard the state,and one which wants to dismantle what's left of it.

Expect to see lots of stories dripped into the media again over the next few months of scroungers not taking up job vacancies and health tourists burdening our economy.

[Numero Veinticinco]

11 hours ago, Nelly-Matip said:

Devil. Detail. 

What detail? One quote screenshot with no link or source or context from an account which seems to have a single purpose of calling out ‘stermerrhoid Labour’? I would like to see some detail, but I’m not sure that is it. It’ll certainly take more than one random Twitter user’s screenshot of part of an article to give us more detail anyway. 

[Arniepie]

56 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

Expect to see lots of stories dripped into the media again over the next few months of scroungers not taking up job vacancies and health tourists burdening our economy.

I'm sure plenty will point out we already live in a country where it takes 2 weeks to see a Dr,so making further cuts after a decade of them,isn't particularly wise.

[Kepler-186]

Good write up of the recent conference and Starmer’s impact in The Post. 
 

https://open.substack.com/pub/liverpoolpost/p/when-keir-came-to-town?r=7i95q&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post

 

 

[Strontium]

Odd that with the polls so impressive for Starmer, Burnham is still angling for the top job, complete with risible new branding.
 

 

[Section_31]

Given the massive lead and everything that's going on with the Tories I had a look at that Skwarkbox site's top stories. Tremendous.

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

10 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Given the massive lead and everything that's going on with the Tories I had a look at that Skwarkbox site's top stories. Tremendous.

 

 

I liked the sub-heading too, ‘Blairite admits – no, boasts – that Starmer has turned Labour into the ‘home’ of the hard right’. Looking at their front page is quite something, over half of their major stories are anti-Starmer or anti-Labour. They’re so out of touch it’s unreal. It’s a grift. 

[Strontium]

Skwawkbox must be seeing a gap in the market after all the recent bad publicity for The Canary.

[Numero Veinticinco]

51 minutes ago, Strontium said:

Skwawkbox must be seeing a gap in the market after all the recent bad publicity for The Canary.

Ooh, I missed that. What’s afoot?

 

Meanwhile, more bad news for Skwawkbox readers. 
 

 

[Jairzinho]

It isn't bad news for Skwawkbox readers, it's bad news for Skwawkbox writers.

[Numero Veinticinco]

15 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

It isn't bad news for Skwawkbox readers, it's bad news for Skwawkbox writers.

You copied my spelling of Skwawkbox because you couldn’t be arsed looking it up, didn’t you? I just gave it a bash and hoped it was right. 

[Strontium]

27 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Ooh, I missed that. What’s afoot?

 

It turns out they went full Animal Farm and the bosses were ripping off the workers. The staff have now overthrown the directors and rebranded as a cooperative.

 

https://pressgazette.co.uk/canary-staff-overthrow-directors-co-op/

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

It turns out it went full Animal Farm and the bosses were ripping off the workers. The staff have now overthrown the directors and rebranded as a cooperative.

I’m assuming you mean Orwell and not that dodgy porno tape that went around in the 90s? I would deffo have heard if it was the latter. 

[Jairzinho]

28 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

You copied my spelling of Skwawkbox because you couldn’t be arsed looking it up, didn’t you? I just gave it a bash and hoped it was right. 

Pretty insulted that you think I don't know how to spell Szwcwakborx. 

[Gnasher]

Just had a half time look at that video.

 

Any comment on what the Labour fella said on Newsnight about Thatcherites being welcome in the modern day Labour Party.  Or is that immaterial?

[Gnasher]

Whilst we're on the subject of Thatcherites,

 

 

 

 

[Jack the Sipper]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Whilst we're on the subject of Thatcherites,

 

 

 

 

 

I've got no problem with what she's said there. The Tories have failed to tackle immigration in the way they promised they would over the past 12 years, and since that promise is something that has won the Tories a lot of votes (including from working class people that Labour used to represent), and Reeves is a member of the Labour Opposition trying to oust the Tories, it would be amiss of her not to point this failure out.

 

And I don't have a problem with the concept of immigration controls either, as racist as that must make me. For one thing, we'd have never voted to leave the EU, and the shit show that's presided since, if we had some control over numbers coming here back in 2016.

[Section_31]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Whilst we're on the subject of Thatcherites,

 

 

 

 

 

Have you (or the Tweeter) actually watched it? She says they haven't deported people whose claims have been rejected. What am I missing there?

 

There's reasons to be annoyed with Labour and Starmer, but they get drowned out with all the white noise. The anti-Starmer brigade jumped the shark years ago. 

 

Realpolitik isn't just for Christmas. 

[Gnasher]

6 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

I've got no problem with what she's said there. The Tories have failed to tackle immigration in the way they promised they would over the past 12 years, and since that promise is something that has won the Tories a lot of votes (including from working class people that Labour used to represent), and Reeves is a member of the Labour Opposition trying to oust the Tories, it would be amiss of her not to point this failure out.

 

And I don't have a problem with the concept of immigration controls either, as racist as that must make me. For one thing, we'd have never voted to leave the EU, and the shit show that's presided since, if we had some control over numbers coming here back in 2016.

 

The only way to control immigration and have a grown up workable policy that's fair to all and humane to asylum seekers is to form a workable alliance with France. A system that ensures people coming to the country have a safe passage and are then delt with quickly and fairly by the home office when they arrive in Britain. 

 

All this bullshit by politicians of all side is crude unworkable dogwhistleing. 

[Gnasher]

7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Have you (or the Tweeter) actually watched it? She says they haven't deported people whose claims have been rejected. What am I missing there?

 

There's reasons to be annoyed with Labour and Starmer, but they get drowned out with all the white noise. The anti-Starmer brigade jumped the shark years ago. 

 

Realpolitik isn't just for Christmas. 

I have watched it, imo as usual Reeves offers little to the debate. I've mentioned my thoughts in my post above.

 

As for Starmer/Labour it's perfectly healthy to have veiws on their policies whoever the leader. Example it's perfectly reasonable to ask questions when a high ranking member of the Labour Party opens his arms to Thatcherites.

 

I thought Corbyn's foreign policy was disastrous, so my scepticism is not just confined to the current leadership. Blind faith is unhealthy.

[Numero Veinticinco]

7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Have you (or the Tweeter) actually watched it? She says they haven't deported people whose claims have been rejected. What am I missing there?

 

There's reasons to be annoyed with Labour and Starmer, but they get drowned out with all the white noise. The anti-Starmer brigade jumped the shark years ago. 

 

Realpolitik isn't just for Christmas. 

How dare she be against illegal immigration? Fucking Tory witch. 

[Arniepie]

22 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Have you (or the Tweeter) actually watched it? She says they haven't deported people whose claims have been rejected. What am I missing there?

 

There's reasons to be annoyed with Labour and Starmer, but they get drowned out with all the white noise. The anti-Starmer brigade jumped the shark years ago. 

 

Realpolitik isn't just for Christmas. 

I'll be honest and say this narrative that the millions of people who did believe in corbyns plans for a faster society, are now some sort of lunatic fringe, quite bemusing.

Especially considering many of the policies put foreward in the conference were not a million miles away from corbyns own.

It's possible to belive that corbyn would have been much less of a disaster than that lying cunt,whilst still wanting Labour to wallop the tories at the next ge.

[Section_31]

11 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I'll be honest and say this narrative that the millions of people who did believe in corbyns plans for a faster society, are now some sort of lunatic fringe, quite bemusing.

Especially considering many of the policies put foreward in the conference were not a million miles away from corbyns own.

It's possible to belive that corbyn would have been much less of a disaster than that lying cunt,whilst still wanting Labour to wallop the tories at the next ge.

I don't to be honest. I think Labour and wider society needs the kind of people who've been branded 'the left', but it needs them either (a) in the Labour party trying to influence policy or (b) in their own party (some will have come from other parties anyway, or been otherwise long disenfranchised with Labour since the Blair era). 

 

What is a disaster waiting to happen is Labour benefiting from the chaos engulfing the Tories, but then conveying the image that it too, is disunited. 

 

Who is the greater villain of the piece in that scenario? A Tory in a country where Tory gonna Tory, or someone who claims to have the best interest of the working class at heart, but puts their own small victories before the prime goal of removing the Tories from power. 

 

I was watching a 'red wall' focus group yesterday of a bunch of blerts who'd voted for the shitbags in 2019, and their tolerance for Labour was precarious at best, even now, due to the spiel about Corbyn and 'wokeness'. 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Reeves seems a bit dead behind the eyes like she played the Quija board when she was a kid and it terrified her so much its her one constant thought and everything she says thinks or does is merely playing over the top of that terrifying memory which is playing over and over  on a loop like the the bass line to a song that never ends. She's adapted to it but still it's incredibly hard work just to not lose her mind. That's the impression I get anyway dont know about anybody else.

[Gnasher]

48 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Reeves seems a bit dead behind the eyes like she played the Quija board when she was a kid and it terrified her so much its her one constant thought and everything she says thinks or does is merely playing over the top of that terrifying memory which is playing over and over  on a loop like the the bass line to a song that never ends. She's adapted to it but still it's incredibly hard work just to not lose her mind. That's the impression I get anyway dont know about anybody else.

It says that word for word on her Wikipedia page.