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John Aloisi, down here on our coverage, suggesting that "van Dijck would be handy" in the Dutch line-up.

 

The Case of Sherlock Holmes and the Obvious Orange Observations.

 

 

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I put some money on Holland to win along with a couple of Copa teams, not watching any of this tournament though. They've probably got next to no chance with their defence but the odds looked decent (14/1) so went for it in case they fluke it.

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Did England really play that well yesterday? All the papers & pundits seem to think they were exceptional. Perhaps I was watching a different game?

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18 minutes ago, Pete said:

Did England really play that well yesterday? All the papers & pundits seem to think they were exceptional. Perhaps I was watching a different game?

That's how every tournament they play in goes. Scrape a win and suddenly they are world beaters, then when they finally lose the same papers and pundits will be calling them worse than shit for underperforming when they've probably produced about par. 

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Compared to other recent performances, they were good. Actually created chances other than set pieces and against good opposition who they reduced to very few chances. It wasn't great, but positive.

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That game was class last night. The Austria vs N Macedonia game was much better than expected too.

 

I think it’s been a good start to the tournament. I’m enjoying it anyway.

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38 minutes ago, Chairman Meow said:

That's how every tournament they play in goes. Scrape a win and suddenly they are world beaters, then when they finally lose the same papers and pundits will be calling them worse than shit for underperforming when they've probably produced about par. 

Well they got beat by Croatia in semis at the world Cup a few years ago, so using some mental gymnastics England beating Croatia yesterday makes them at least the second best team in the world. 

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1 hour ago, Pete said:

Did England really play that well yesterday? All the papers & pundits seem to think they were exceptional. Perhaps I was watching a different game?

I am hoping England win , albeit not massively bothered, but I had the Emperors New Clothes thoughts as well. 6 shots at goal, 2 on target , and the goal was probably against the run of play.

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The way I saw it, Turkey were a poor side and Italy huffed and puffed needing an OG to set them on their way. They were described as sensational.

 

What I saw of the Holland Ukraine game last night was entertaining. Holland blew a 2 goal lead then Ukraine blew the draw in the last 5 minutes or so.

 

England played a clearly better side than Turkey in Croatia. I thought England played well but the UK sportswriters went overboard as usual. That Phillips had a very good game. Kane doesnt seem the same player to me playing deeper than when he's an out and out striker. Foden hit the post early on but then disappeared. England's defence didnt seem troubled at the back even with Walker and Mings in it.

 

Looking forward to watching the sweaties this avvie.

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England struggled to move the ball from their back 6 to the front 4 except for a few long balls early doors. I put that down to the two holding players, Rice and Phillips. Phillips did one half decent thing all match but is now a world beater.

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Thinking back 20 years or so, I'm sure England had plenty of senior players at top clubs; now the squad is padded out by Wolves, Leeds, Everton, Villa and West Ham. It's all very uninspiring. 

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3 hours ago, Pete said:

Did England really play that well yesterday? All the papers & pundits seem to think they were exceptional. Perhaps I was watching a different game?

5 live were wanking themselves silly this morning over the performance it was workmanlike nothing else in my opinion,  certainly nothing to get over excited about .

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29 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

5 live were wanking themselves silly this morning over the performance it was workmanlike nothing else in my opinion,  certainly nothing to get over excited about .

The media doing what they always do.

Lots of ridiculous hyperbole over average performances against average teams then the world caves in as soon as we get found out . Expect Southgate to be sporting a donkeys head on the tabloid front pages in a couple of weeks.

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1 minute ago, magicrat said:

The media doing what they always do.

Lots of ridiculous hyperbole over average performances against average teams then the world caves in as soon as we get found out . Expect Southgate to be sporting a donkeys head on the tabloid front pages in a couple of weeks.

Edit . Predict Pickford will be the villain of the piece when it goes tits up 

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4 hours ago, Aventus said:

Well they got beat by Croatia in semis at the world Cup a few years ago, so using some mental gymnastics England beating Croatia yesterday makes them at least the second best team in the world. 

 

Claimed nobody, anywhere.

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Schmeichel has come out and said the Danes were given 3 options by UEFA for the game the other day.

Resume that evening, resume the day after, or forfeit 3-0.

 

Absolute cunts.

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Lovely day yesterday so went for a nice long walk instead of watching England. Glad they won but it now seems they're world beaters according to the Media

Aren't Croatia all over 90?

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