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Froch, Kessler, Abrahams, Dirrell, Taylor, Ward


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The point deduction was entirely deserved for the repeated spoiling tactics of constantly holding by Dirrell and also what irked was him slipping about 40 times every time Froch caught him. Yeah he landed more punches but boxing is an attacking sport and people pay good money to watch a fight not constant dancing. Hopefully the decision will be a positive one for Dirrell as when he was forced into a fight he boxed very well at the end. I had no idea what the score was, how on earth do you score the non-event of the first 6 rounds they were truly awful. Commanding centre of the ring and attacking are 2 values rated highly though and that's what won Froch the fight. Dirrell maybe thinks he's Roy Jones or Floyd Mayweather but they have the attack option in their repertoire and to win the title away from home you need to put more in more of an attacking effort.

 

I don't think it was a particularly good performance by Froch though and he will need to step up his game big time against Kessler. The tournament will be interesting and we may see Dirrell come through the initial defeat to make the semis. He needs to attack a hell of a lot more and show how he earned those 13 knock outs.

 

 

I think you make a lot of good points but this point shouldn't really matter. Call me naive but why should the location of the fight matter as to the decision? It's the same with the Malignaggi-Diaz fight. Would it be too much to ask for fights to employ impartial judges who won't be influenced by the crowd?

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The point deduction was entirely deserved for the repeated spoiling tactics of constantly holding by Dirrell and also what irked was him slipping about 40 times every time Froch caught him. Yeah he landed more punches but boxing is an attacking sport and people pay good money to watch a fight not constant dancing. Hopefully the decision will be a positive one for Dirrell as when he was forced into a fight he boxed very well at the end. I had no idea what the score was, how on earth do you score the non-event of the first 6 rounds they were truly awful. Commanding centre of the ring and attacking are 2 values rated highly though and that's what won Froch the fight. Dirrell maybe thinks he's Roy Jones or Floyd Mayweather but they have the attack option in their repertoire and to win the title away from home you need to put more in more of an attacking effort.

 

I don't think it was a particularly good performance by Froch though and he will need to step up his game big time against Kessler. The tournament will be interesting and we may see Dirrell come through the initial defeat to make the semis. He needs to attack a hell of a lot more and show how he earned those 13 knock outs.

 

In what round was Dirrell warned for holding? That was a classic homer decision. The guy that was actually able to hit the other guy should've won.

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The point deduction was entirely deserved for the repeated spoiling tactics of constantly holding by Dirrell and also what irked was him slipping about 40 times every time Froch caught him. Yeah he landed more punches but boxing is an attacking sport and people pay good money to watch a fight not constant dancing. Hopefully the decision will be a positive one for Dirrell as when he was forced into a fight he boxed very well at the end. I had no idea what the score was, how on earth do you score the non-event of the first 6 rounds they were truly awful. Commanding centre of the ring and attacking are 2 values rated highly though and that's what won Froch the fight. Dirrell maybe thinks he's Roy Jones or Floyd Mayweather but they have the attack option in their repertoire and to win the title away from home you need to put more in more of an attacking effort.

 

I don't think it was a particularly good performance by Froch though and he will need to step up his game big time against Kessler. The tournament will be interesting and we may see Dirrell come through the initial defeat to make the semis. He needs to attack a hell of a lot more and show how he earned those 13 knock outs.

 

Do you think Dirrell could have been given a few rounds because of his defensive skills? some of his blocking and elusivness was brilliant last night. I agree that he definitley needed to throw more punches to be sure to win rounds as he did look like he was spoiling the fight by running but the way he made Froch miss last night was embarrasing.

You make a fair point by actually coming forward to box and it's probabaly a missed chance for Dirrell as i think he's too good for Froch.

Froch will certaintly need to raise his game although Kessler won't run like Dirrell.

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Just watched it now and Dirrell was very impressive with his hand speed and the fact that he stuff to the game plan. Froch showed so dirty boxing and a point could have been given against him for some of the punching to the back of the head. Dirrell waso very frustrating to watch though with the way he went to ground and tired his arms round Froch.

 

I actually had the fight as a draw at best for Froch (once the point against Dirrell was given). Froch's comments after the fight were pretty disrespectful and deep down he will know he was lucky.

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I have to take issue with the Froch hitting the back of the head comment. What was he supposed to hit when as soon as Dirrell was in striking range he turned his back or "slipped" and/or stayed in a ducked position. His antics were pathetic and not enjoyable to watch at all. I love a skilled, clever fighter who can dance and move but Dirrell didn't attack until he was forced into it.

 

The location shouldn't matter and the judges should be impartial but the reality of the situation is that crowds do influence judges and looking after the Champion is a definite tendency. Dirrell knew this and still refused to attack.

 

I'm not saying it was a walkover for Froch and he deserved the victory by much, but Dirrell shouldn't have expected to wrestle the belt off Froch with such negative, spoiling tactics. I disagree with whoever said he was wise to stick to his game plan - he was far more effective when forced into action after the point deduction than with his running.

 

Dirrell is clearly a talented fighter and I hope for his sake he learns from that fight.

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I have to take issue with the Froch hitting the back of the head comment. What was he supposed to hit when as soon as Dirrell was in striking range he turned his back or "slipped" and/or stayed in a ducked position. His antics were pathetic and not enjoyable to watch at all. I love a skilled, clever fighter who can dance and move but Dirrell didn't attack until he was forced into it.

 

Please. Dirrell was stood in front of him plenty of times and he still couldn't land a punch, his head movement made Froch look a mug, hence why he resorted to the hand around the head and hitting.

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Please. Dirrell was stood in front of him plenty of times and he still couldn't land a punch, his head movement made Froch look a mug, hence why he resorted to the hand around the head and hitting.
Are you denying the constant "slips" and back turning? Defend yourself at all times springs to mind.
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Are you denying the constant "slips" and back turning? Defend yourself at all times springs to mind.

 

They happened, of course they did, but not to the extent that it affected the performance. Dirrell was just too quick for him. Head, hands and body. Froch looked like a mug.

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They happened, of course they did, but not to the extent that it affected the performance. Dirrell was just too quick for him. Head, hands and body. Froch looked like a mug.
Unfortunately for Dirrell it was Boxing they were playing not tag and scored accordingly.
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Unfortunately for Dirrell it was Boxing they were playing not tag and scored accordingly.

 

Well, I'm sure Froch, like you, is happy that being able to punch your opponent is not a pre-requisite to winning a boxing match. It was embarrassing listening to the pundits trying to explain how they thought Froch had won, just minutes after saying how they thought Dirrell had won.

 

Whichever you look at it, Froch is a lucky boy and needs to up his game because people aren't going to buy into the platitudes much longer. A more experienced boxer would have made the massive gulf in class count yesterday.

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Well, I'm sure Froch, like you, is happy that being able to punch your opponent is not a pre-requisite to winning a boxing match. It was embarrassing listening to the pundits trying to explain how they thought Froch had won, just minutes after saying how they thought Dirrell had won.

 

Whichever you look at it, Froch is a lucky boy and needs to up his game because people aren't going to buy into the platitudes much longer. A more experienced boxer would have made the massive gulf in class count yesterday.

 

I don't think Froch was particularly impressive and particularly deserved to win, more like Dirrell got what he deserved for his spoiling, negative and cowardly tactics. I predict they will both be eliminated in the Semis, the final will be contested by Abraham and Kessler.

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I don't think Froch was particularly impressive and particularly deserved to win, more like Dirrell got what he deserved for his spoiling, negative and largely ineffective tactics. I predict they will both be eliminated in the Semis, the final will be contested by Abraham and Kessler.

 

I know what you mean, but for me Froch was just so bad he didn't deserve to win.

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