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5 minutes ago, Razoray said:

Anthony Taylor is the referee on Sunday. Since we won the title, this will be the sixteenth time he has refereed our game. Eleven of those have been away from home. We will have had 62 aways after Sunday and he will have reffed 11 of them - 18% is a very high percentage of games for one referee.

He will have refereed Liverpool in 16 of his 93 games since 2020 - 17%. It should average at 10%. 

He will have refereed Liverpool away in 11 of his 93 games since 2020 - 12%. It should average at 5%. 

 

 

These have been our opponents in the 11 away games

Man City

Newcastle 

Leicester

Leeds

Man Utd x2 

Chelsea x3

Everton

Brighton

 

Man City, Man United, Chelsea and Everton away are always difficult for us.

Leeds, Leicester, Newcastle and Brighton were/are all having superb seasons when we played them in the games above. 

Newcastle were 3rd when we played them.

Leicester they went 2nd after we played them.

Leeds were 9th after we played them.

Brighton are 3 points off top spot. 

 

The 4 home games that he has refereed us in that time were Spurs,  Chelsea, Wolves (9th) Man City and Brentford (9th). 

Every single game has been against a top 10 team, most of which have been against a top 4 rival.

 

Is this just me being paranoid, enabled by my mistrust of PL officialdom after last weekend, or is it strange that he gets a high proportion of Liverpool games, never gets a Liverpool game against a struggling team and over two-thirds of them are away from Anfield? 

 

For the record, we have won just three (2 v Man Utd), drawn six and lost one of the 10 aways.

We have won four and drawn one of the 5 homes. 

The PGMOL have a hierarchy of referees, whether you think that is right or not doesn't change the fact it is the case. Taylor is in that group of 4 or 5 that will usually get the weekends big game, that list above has plenty of the perceived big games. There will be lads refereeing 15 years that have never reffed a Liverpool  v Utd game because they aren't in the circle of trust.

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3 minutes ago, No2 said:

The PGMOL have a hierarchy of referees, whether you think that is right or not doesn't change the fact it is the case. Taylor is in that group of 4 or 5 that will usually get the weekends big game, that list above has plenty of the perceived big games. There will be lads refereeing 15 years that have never reffed a Liverpool  v Utd game because they aren't in the circle of trust.

That is fair enough but in the same period, he has refereed Manchester United just 13 times (7 at home) and 4 of those have been against teams fighting relegation. 

 

The last two games he has refereed Manchester City have been against Nottingham Forest and Everton. 

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There are loads of suspicious things about the choice of who referees us and how we are treated generally by quite a few of the refs and this Taylor stuff is one of them.  But what can you do when you’re faced with an unchallengeable body who make it up to suit themselves and punish you if you criticize them? 

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It's absolutely fucking mindblowing how stupid or willfully stupid other fans, players and clubs reactions to this have been. The whole spurs handball in the champions league final which wasn't a contentious decision it  was a handball. It was reviewed and the correct decision was given. It wasn't a case of it being reviewed by 4 people knowing the incorrect decision was given and doing fuck all about it. These same gobshites will lament decisions against themselves because there's nothing more English than complaining about shit but not having the balls or common sense to do anything about it. The English are the prisoners who don't need guards they stop each other from escaping because they are terrified of anything other than the status quo.

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30 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

It's absolutely fucking mindblowing how stupid or willfully stupid other fans, players and clubs reactions to this have been. The whole spurs handball in the champions league final which wasn't a contentious decision it  was a handball. It was reviewed and the correct decision was given. It wasn't a case of it being reviewed by 4 people knowing the incorrect decision was given and doing fuck all about it. These same gobshites will lament decisions against themselves because there's nothing more English than complaining about shit but not having the balls or common sense to do anything about it. The English are the prisoners who don't need guards they stop each other from escaping because they are terrified of anything other than the status quo.

https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1328620187655024640/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1328620187655024640&currentTweetUser=UEFA&mode=profile

 

Apples and oranges.

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43 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

It's absolutely fucking mindblowing how stupid or willfully stupid other fans, players and clubs reactions to this have been. The whole spurs handball in the champions league final which wasn't a contentious decision it  was a handball. It was reviewed and the correct decision was given. It wasn't a case of it being reviewed by 4 people knowing the incorrect decision was given and doing fuck all about it. These same gobshites will lament decisions against themselves because there's nothing more English than complaining about shit but not having the balls or common sense to do anything about it. The English are the prisoners who don't need guards they stop each other from escaping because they are terrified of anything other than the status quo.

Yip , just reading through the comments section in the Athletic filled with comments about the UCL final, Skipp getting kicked in the head , Jotas yellow card deserved because he got away with one earlier . Even some posting about Wolves in the FA cup last season and all completely different issues . Tribalism at its best. Oh and apparently a couple of our lads tried to elbow their players in the head.

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2 minutes ago, CapeRed said:

Yip , just reading through the comments section in the Athletic filled with comments about the UCL final, Skipp getting kicked in the head , Jotas yellow card deserved because he got away with one earlier . Even some posting about Wolves in the FA cup last season and all completely different issues . Tribalism at its best. Oh and apparently a couple of our lads tried to elbow their players in the head.

 

A Utd supporting friend cited the Wolves game, asking why Klopp hadn't called for a replay back then, and saying it's only now something has happened to Liverpool that we're speaking out. PGMOL must be pissing themselves that it's so easy to divide and conquer like this.

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4 hours ago, Razoray said:

Anthony Taylor is the referee on Sunday. Since we won the title, this will be the sixteenth time he has refereed our game. Eleven of those have been away from home. We will have had 62 aways after Sunday and he will have reffed 11 of them - 18% is a very high percentage of games for one referee.

He will have refereed Liverpool in 16 of his 93 games since 2020 - 17%. It should average at 10%. 

He will have refereed Liverpool away in 11 of his 93 games since 2020 - 12%. It should average at 5%. 

 

 

These have been our opponents in the 11 away games

Man City

Newcastle 

Leicester

Leeds

Man Utd x2 

Chelsea x3

Everton

Brighton

 

Man City, Man United, Chelsea and Everton away are always difficult for us.

Leeds, Leicester, Newcastle and Brighton were/are all having superb seasons when we played them in the games above. 

Newcastle were 3rd when we played them.

Leicester they went 2nd after we played them.

Leeds were 9th after we played them.

Brighton are 3 points off top spot. 

 

The 4 home games that he has refereed us in that time were Spurs,  Chelsea, Wolves (9th) Man City and Brentford (9th). 

Every single game has been against a top 10 team, most of which have been against a top 4 rival.

 

In the 53 games that he has ever refereed Liverpool in the Premier League, he has given us more yellow cards per game average, than any of his 30 fellow refs. 

 

Is this just me being paranoid, enabled by my mistrust of PL officialdom after last weekend, or is it strange that he gets a high proportion of Liverpool games, never gets a Liverpool game against a struggling team and over two-thirds of them are away from Anfield? 

 

For the record, we have won just three (2 v Man Utd), drawn six and lost one of the 10 aways.

We have won four and drawn one of the 5 homes. 

 

 

since the klopp incident last season i think webb has been taking the piss with his appointments. and this is just another example. oh, LFC giving us a bad time again, which of tierney and taylor can i give them and can i put alex ferguson on var? 

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4 hours ago, Mudface said:

 

A Utd supporting friend cited the Wolves game, asking why Klopp hadn't called for a replay back then, and saying it's only now something has happened to Liverpool that we're speaking out. PGMOL must be pissing themselves that it's so easy to divide and conquer like this.

 

In fairness I'd imagine that part of the reason that Klopp didn't call for a replay back then was because.....

This is pretty mind-blowing stuff....

 

THERE ACTUALLY WAS A FUCKING REPLAY!

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-1 Liverpool: Harvey Elliott fires visitors into FA Cup fourth round - BBC Sport

 

It wasn't even an exact replay of the game because they got the added advantage of playing at home!

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28 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

In fairness I'd imagine that part of the reason that Klopp didn't call for a replay back then was because.....

This is pretty mind-blowing stuff....

 

THERE ACTUALLY WAS A FUCKING REPLAY!

Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-1 Liverpool: Harvey Elliott fires visitors into FA Cup fourth round - BBC Sport

 

It wasn't even an exact replay of the game because they got the added advantage of playing at home!

 

Haha, quite. I did start typing that out in a reply to him but thought, what's the point? Once it goes tribal and the press start in, nobody's mind is going to get changed.

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