Freedom of speech

[Pureblood]

Isn't it the part where he says "gas the jews" that is offensive?

 

Also, if the video was designed to annoy his girlfriend there was probably no need to put it on youtube.  I think that part of his defence is flimsy.

[Pureblood]

If you're only in favour of freedom of speech for people you agree with, you're not in favour of freedom of speech.

 

Freedom of speech must always be counterweighted with other considerations, such as incitement to racial hatred etc.

[Pureblood]

John Cleese must be shitting his keks.

 

 

I don't think John Cleese ever said "gas the jews".  I mean, even in jest you could see why that would cause offence?

[Paulie Dangerously]

Isn't it the part where he says "gas the jews" that is offensive?

 

Also, if the video was designed to annoy his girlfriend there was probably no need to put it on youtube.  I think that part of his defence is flimsy.

 

The original video started with a brief monologue from him saying that this was the reason he was doing it.  

 

It makes him a bit of a tit without question

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

His Twatter bio reads:

 

"Professional Shitposter. Going to jail for a joke. Anti-PC. Anti-SNP. Pro Free Speech. Edgi Boi. Scottish Nationalist. I'm not a Nazi, but my dog is."

 

He also has loads of shite tattoos and piercings, including one of those shite big holes in the ear.

 

Sounds like a life sentence is justified. Or a hall of fame place in the instant cunt identifiers thread.

[Strontium]

Freedom of speech must always be counterweighted with other considerations, such as incitement to racial hatred etc.

It's seems pretty clear that this was a film produced for the purpose of comedy so it should be seen in that context.

 

In all honesty, I'm not excessively worried about my family being rounded up and put in the gas chambers by household pets.

[Numero Veinticinco]

It's seems pretty clear that this was a film produced for the purpose of comedy so it should be seen in that context.

 

In all honesty, I'm not excessively worried about my family being rounded up and put in the gas chambers by household pets.

It's how it starts, SD.

[Pureblood]

It's seems pretty clear that this was a film produced for the purpose of comedy so it should be seen in that context.

 

 

Well, he says the film was produced to annoy his girlfriend.  Given that you're taking everything he says at face value, why did he feel the need to a put a video on youtube in order to annoy his girlfriend?  

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Well, he says the film was produced to annoy his girlfriend. Given that you're taking everything he says at face value, why did he feel the need to a put a video on youtube in order to annoy his girlfriend?

She might really hate YouTube.

[Paulie Dangerously]

She might really hate YouTube.

 

Or Nazis

[Numero Veinticinco]

Well, he says the film was produced to annoy his girlfriend. Given that you're taking everything he says at face value, why did he feel the need to a put a video on youtube in order to annoy his girlfriend?

He's a YouTuber who thought the joke might be funny?

[Pureblood]

He's a YouTuber who thought the joke might be funny?

 

 

Right, but that's not what he argued under Oath.  I think he's fucked himself with his own defence.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Right, but that's not what he argued under Oath. I think he's fucked himself with his own defence.

I didn't read his entire statement. I think this has been going on a while now, but I'm not sure. I'm generally not in favour of this regardless of his intent.

[Pureblood]

I didn't read his entire statement. I think this has been going on a while now, but I'm not sure. I'm generally not in favour of this regardless of his intent.

 

 

My gut reaction is "tough shit".  If you go on youtube and say "gas the jews", regardless of context, I think you're asking for trouble. 

[Lee909]

If it stops all these cunts becoming youtube stars and putting up shitty videos that invade any of my timelines a lifetime sentence for him is a price i'm willing to pay. 

[Strontium]

He had eight followers, all of them friends. One of them shared the video outside the group and it went viral. I think it's pretty scary if tasteless jokes shared with friends can now earn you a criminal conviction, others are free to disagree.

[Pureblood]

He had eight followers, all of them friends. One of them shared the video outside the group and it went viral. I think it's pretty scary if tasteless jokes shared with friends can now earn you a criminal conviction, others are free to disagree.

 

 

There's a lesson in there somewhere - don't post a video on youtube if your intention is to annoy your girlfriend.  If you must put it on youtube, don't say "gas the jews".  

 

I agree with the conviction.  Sentencing will be interesting. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

The more I think about it, the worse it gets.

[Paulie Dangerously]

It seems like a sweeping precedent for the usage of the "communications act" 

 

I already am very careful about what I put online due to general paranoia, this isn't helping me.  I'm immediately cancelling my training of getting the spider in the shoe cupboard to Goose step 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

He had eight followers, all of them friends. One of them shared the video outside the group and it went viral. I think it's pretty scary if tasteless jokes shared with friends can now earn you a criminal conviction, others are free to disagree.

So, are you saying that when somebody makes a comment or video to a select, tailored audience, then it's a bit out of order if that content gets shared outside that audience and platform and that person then gets into trouble?

 

Hahahahaha.

[Rico1304]

There's a lesson in there somewhere - don't post a video on youtube if your intention is to annoy your girlfriend. If you must put it on youtube, don't say "gas the jews".

 

I agree with the conviction. Sentencing will be interesting.

Not surprised really.

[Pureblood]

Not surprised really.

 

About what?

[Rico1304]

About what?

That you agree with the conviction.

[Pureblood]

Sussed.

[Rico1304]

I think it’s strange that a man who’s nobody thinks is a Nazi, who has a dog that can’t be a Nazi, now has a conviction because he joked the dog was a Nazi.