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[DalyanPete]

10 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

In more depressing scenes...

 

 

 

 

As shithouses go, they take first prize. 

Why the fuck would you want to cause a confrontation in the first place?

[Mudface]

19 minutes ago, DalyanPete said:

As shithouses go, they take first prize. 

Why the fuck would you want to cause a confrontation in the first place?

Social media points from the rest of the morons.

 

Christ, those tags, especially the first one-

 

[DalyanPete]

1 minute ago, Mudface said:

Social media points from the rest of the morons.

Definitely, I was really hoping the shop owner worked out on the two of them. Especially the shithouse husband. Cunts.

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Mudface said:

Clickbait headlines, but if you actually read the articles, then it makes it very clear what the figure relates to.

 

I checked what the figure related to, the NHS chief executive didn't mention anything about August. It required people checking further to work out what she was even referring to.

 

From the ITV article :

 

NHS England later clarified she was referring to the most recently published statistics in August.

 

The Sky article has an extra section just to clear up what was going on with that quote too.

 

Maybe the NHS chief executive would be better off using figures more recent in the future if she's talking about "this time last year" again.

[Red Phoenix]

Merriam Webster definition of anti-vaxxer :

 

Definition of anti-vaxxer : a person who opposes the use of vaccines or regulations mandating vaccination

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer

 

[Rico1304]

13 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Merriam Webster definition of anti-vaxxer :

 

 

 

 

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer

 

Aren’t childhood vaccinations mandated in the US to allow access to schools?  

[Red Phoenix]

32 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Aren’t childhood vaccinations mandated in the US to allow access to schools?  

 

Yep, maybe they should update the definition now that it also means a completely different thing though. Maybe they'll get around to it eventually.

[Kevin D]

Definitely need a different covid thread.

[Red Phoenix]

Hahahaha :

 

 

[Anubis]

4 hours ago, Mudface said:

Social media points from the rest of the morons.

 

Christ, those tags, especially the first one-

 

Should add #MyShopMyChoice

[Red Phoenix]

The Guardian reporting on what's surely another bunch of thick QAnon right wingers :

 

Chris Hopson, the chief executive of NHS Providers, which represents NHS trusts, said he was expecting a UK government announcement on a deadline for mandatory vaccination for NHS staff today. He said there are between 80,000 and 100,000 NHS workers in England who are unvaccinated against coronavirus.

 

Covid news live

[Red Phoenix]

Here's some more QAnon far right in Australia too :

 

 

[Curly]

13 hours ago, Kepler-186 said:

Inside the social media channel where anti-vaccine activists target Merseyside schools

On the messaging app Telegram, we’ve seen videos that show 14 different local schools being harassed in person by campaigners 

Harry Shukman Oct 22 10 25

 

Dear readers — we’re dropping into your inboxes this morning with a fascinating report about anti-vaccine activists targeting schools across Merseyside. It’s by Harry Shukman, who used to be a staff reporter at The Times and has just joined our team part-time to do some reporting for The Post. 

Harry has been monitoring a series of messaging groups on the social media app Telegram and has seen videos of more than a dozen local schools being targeted in recent weeks. He’s also found messages where campaigners talk in threatening terms about teachers, including one user who says: “Time to follow the headmaster home.” 

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By Harry Shukman

On 10 October, a message dropped into an anti-vaccine social media group called Liverpool Fight for Freedom. It seemed to come from a parent at a school in Toxteth. “St Hilda’s near Sefton Park tomorrow jabbing the kids  has this school not been served?”

Four days later, a video began to circulate in various online groups used by anti-vaccine activists on Merseyside. It showed two men and a woman in the reception area of St Hilda’s School, demanding to speak to the headteacher Jo Code. It’s soundtracked by triumphant martial music and shows a large man in a suit and tie standing close to Code. He follows her around the room, reading aloud from a sheet of paper.

“I stand under common law,” says the man. “I am here on behalf of concerned parents to hand over these lawful, legally binding documents to you… you personally will be held responsible if any child suffers death or harm from these experimental vaccines.” By this point in the video Code is backed into a corner. She repeatedly asks the activists to stop filming. They ignore her and the footage ends abruptly.

Headteacher Jo Code being confronted by protestors. Screenshots obtained via Harry Shukman/The Post.

The clips were shared via the online messaging app Telegram, which has become popular among anti-vaccine campaigners because users are less likely to be banned for spreading misinformation. For the past two weeks, we have been monitoring the communications of a network of Merseyside-based activists, who have been organising via Telegram in their campaign to put pressure on local teachers.

In total, we’ve seen videos that show 14 different local schools being harassed by campaigners in the past month. The campaigners tend to do the same thing on each visit: filming inside schools without permission in order to post evidence that they have served “notices of liability” to headteachers, which are based on dubiously interpreted items of common law. They hope that by delivering these documents they will be able to take legal action against the schools for harming children.

We’ve counted six different anti-vaccine activists making the visits — none of whom identified themselves as the parent of a child at the school. They boast about frightening teachers and giving them sleepless nights, and at one point say about a headteacher: “She can’t run, she can’t hide.” According to a representative from Liverpool Council, these activists have been able to secure meetings with headteachers by pretending to be solicitors, although this detail was not visible in any of the footage we saw.

The Merseyside schools where we have seen videos of activists turning up. 

The Telegram group where we first saw the videos is called Liverpool’s People’s Resistance UK, which has just over 300 members. “We are looking for people who want to fight back for our God-given freedoms,” it says. “We need boots on the ground.” Messages from its administrator — a man named George — suggest it is unaffiliated to the other protesters who this month tried to serve similar notices to the broadcaster Jeremy Vine at his home in London and the celebrity doctor Hilary Jones.

Members can ask George to serve their child’s schools, and his activist team will go and harass them with a “notice” and some unauthorised filming. Ostensibly the visits are born out of concern about in-school vaccinations, but one post suggests parents are using the group to settle petty grievances with teachers. On 14 October, a parent said St Margaret’s Academy in Aigburth “needs doing” after their son had a “run in with the head”. “Wouldn’t mention my name like as he’s proper got it in for me atm [at the moment],” the parent wrote. 

The reply from George came less than a minute later. “Ok leave it with me,” he wrote. “Should have our vid by midday. ” The next day, a video of St Margaret’s being targeted by George’s team surfaced in the group. The same school was picketed in early October by a separate group called Liverpool Fight for Freedom.

The Telegram group chat where activists plan. Screenshots obtained via Harry Shukman/The Post.

As the videos of notices being served started to trickle into Liverpool's People’s Resistance UK, members congratulated each other on successfully hounding the teachers. The video from St Hilda’s was met with George excitedly posting: 

Jo Code near had a nervous breakdown. She’ll be having a sleepless night that’s for sure. Wait till the morning until the penny drops and she realises the severity of it all. I can see her going on the sick. She can’t run, she can’t hide.

What makes these Telegram channels different to the countless other conspiracy theorist groups on social media is that their members are taking real-life action, harassing teachers in person rather than just posting about them online. Code and the headteachers of the other schools declined to comment for this article.

We understand that dozens of schools across Merseyside have been “served” or picketed for vaccinating children since the government broadened eligibility to 12-15-year-olds last month. The Echo reported on Monday that Merseyside Police have told teachers to "check they are not being followed" after activists turned up. 

We’ve found that many of those efforts are organised via these Telegram groups. Three men posted in Liverpool Fight for Freedom with pictures of them leafleting a school in Ormskirk, writing that they felt “totally out of our comfort zones handing out leaflets outside a school but it needed to be done”. 

Their distinctive yellow signs, which read “The experimental COVID jabs” and “Heart damage in teens”, bear resemblance to those used by Rebels on Roundabouts, a group of 5,000 members who demonstrate at roadsides in the North West.  

An anti-vaxx protestor at a school. Screenshots obtained via Harry Shukman/The Post.

In a related incident, The Post can report that a school in the Wirral called the police recently after a parent and her brother-in-law turned up to confront him over mask-wearing. Kevin Flanagan, head of Pensby High School, was targeted after a dispute with a parent over her son’s right to not wear a face mask in class.

Because the mum had posted about her experience online, it soon made its way onto a blog called Hugo Talks, which trafficks in conspiracy theories about Prince Charles being the Antichrist. From there, it ended up in the Merseyside Telegram groups, which opened a sluice gate of abuse against Flanagan. “Time to follow the headmaster home,” added one commenter, joining in the suggestions that Flanagan’s address be shared online. “Sounds like he needs a visit from the resistance,” another said. 

Members of groups like Liverpool Freedom & Health or Hold The Line — Liverpool gleefully encouraged one another to phone up Pensby High School and give “this headteacher the verbal abuse that he deserves”. Others shared screenshots of their vitriolic emails to the school. Flanagan was called a “nazi”, a “cunt”, and a “genocidal supporter” and it was insinuated that he was a paedophile. Flanagan declined to comment for this article, but a spokesperson for Wirral Council said every single secondary school on the peninsula had been picketed by anti-vaccine protesters in recent weeks. 

An anti-vaxx protestor at a school. Screenshots obtained via Harry Shukman/The Post.

The Telegram groups we have been watching might be local to Merseyside, but the harassment of teachers is a national problem. Sajid Javid, the health secretary, has said anti-vaccine protests targeting schools are "completely unacceptable" and added: "This appalling behaviour must stop. The vaccines are safe, effective and have built a huge wall of defence around us that is keeping the virus at bay.”

Stella Creasy, the Labour MP, has separately called for "buffer zones" outside schools to stop activists from picketing students. "You don't have an open, uncontested right to foist your views on other people,” she told PoliticsHome, “especially when it's very clear these kids have said no, and these adults are continuing.”

Meanwhile, in the Telegram groups, activists continue to share the names of schools where vaccinations are taking place. Requests for schools to be served are still coming in, as are the upcoming dates of school vaccination days. George, the administrator of Liverpool People’s Resistance, is now encouraging parents to serve notices to schools themselves. “You all need to send them,” he wrote. “If we don't fight back we’re all fucked.”

“The people’s resistance”. I wonder who the person who came up with that slogan supports.

[Rico1304]

It’s absolutely mental. People are more fucking stupid than I ever imagined and I had really low expectations.  

[Rico1304]

How we got to a point where doctors, nurses, scientists and headteachers are being chased down by people who have just enough intelligence to work a fucking light switch is beyond me.  
 

The real conspiracy is who benefits from this level of disruption and mistrust.  It’s certainly not Big Pharma or our government.  

[Em City]

19 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

How we got to a point where doctors, nurses, scientists and headteachers are being chased down by people who have just enough intelligence to work a fucking light switch is beyond me.  
 

The real conspiracy is who benefits from this level of disruption and mistrust.  It’s certainly not Big Pharma or our government.  

 

Imagine doing four years undergrad for your bachelors, another year or two for your masters and four gruelling years for your doctorate followed by years of painstaking research only to be questioned by dribblechins whose "research" consists of YouTube and Twitter screenshots, most of whom aren't even able to spell.

 

 

[Em City]

17 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

In more depressing scenes...

 

 

 

 

 

Such freedom fighters. I'm sure that 50kg woman and her tiny independent shop were sponsored by Bill Gates.

 

[Bjornebye]

7 minutes ago, Em City said:

 

Such freedom fighters. I'm sure that 50kg woman and her tiny independent shop were sponsored by Bill Gates.

 

I really wanted her to go to town with that bat on them. Pure bullies nothing more. They should be arrested not her 

[Em City]

11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I really wanted her to go to town with that bat on them. Pure bullies nothing more. They should be arrested not her 

 

It's like all those video of passengers on planes in the U.S kicking off about wearing masks. Funny how they do it mid flight when there's only slim air stewardess to enforce the rules and not in the airport where there's the TSA and their German Shepherds roaming around. Screaming about bodily integrity over wearing a piece of cloth over their mouth just an hour after consenting to a fully body scan.

 

Performative outrage by and for the unexceptional and downright stupid among us to feel triumphant. If only they had enough self-awareness to see how pathetic they look.

[TD_LFC]

Not sure it was that far outside @rand9all and @LewiWizard777's comfort zone and definitely not the first time they've hung around outside a school.

[Vincent Vega]

I reckon this is the kind of vaccine reassurance most anti-vaxxer nerds will sign up to. 

 

[Grinch]

I didn’t even get a lollipop.

[stringvest]

36 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I reckon this is the kind of vaccine reassurance most anti-vaxxer nerds will sign up to. 

 

Blimey there's an offer no-one can refuse.

 

I've got a massive pile of ironing piled up.

[Bjornebye]

46 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I reckon this is the kind of vaccine reassurance most anti-vaxxer nerds will sign up to. 

 

 

8 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Blimey there's an offer no-one can refuse.

 

I've got a massive pile of ironing piled up.

TIMING! 

[TheHowieLama]

A Texas study found that unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to die of COVID-19 than the fully vaccinated throughout most of September, providing further evidence backing the vaccines. 

The research, published by the Texas Department of State Health Services on Monday, determined that 81.3 percent of COVID-19-related deaths between Sept. 4 and Oct. 1 occurred among unvaccinated people.