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Summer 2013 Transfer Thread


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Ok fuck off Marko

 

Lets get back to talking about transfers

 

As i have been saying for months on here, Suarez should be sold. People on here who had Suarez pyjama's and posters on their walls went ape shit

 

These foreign players have no loyalty....you should have learned that after Torres

 

Anyway his value is at its highest, he wont be scoring 30+ goals next year (in my opinion) and has 3 years on his contract

 

50+ million and we would be mental not to sell him and by 2-3 top players with the money.

 

I dont think its got anything to do with being foreign, more like a club in our position can only use the " give us one more year, we are building " argument so long before any player thinks that they may be wasting their career.

 

I disagree about that Suarez should be sold, but you are entitled to your opinion and i'm not going to call you a mong for it.

 

For clarity - If Suarez wants to go, fine, let him go and get a good price for him - but, if the club was showing signs of competing at the highest level, we may not have this problem as often as we do.

 

I don't think we are any closer to winning the league than we were in 2009 ( and there are lots of reason for that ) The players might think that too, what are we doing to convince them otherwise??

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Why ? Because I happen to hold a slightly different point of view to some others on here and don't see why I should be abused for it? The thread goes down hill when some people would rather call others " mongs" instead of actually debating a point of view.

 

I make no apology for having a different point of view, please try to change my view rather than just calling me a mong

 

But you are a mong , and you weren't debating in a fashion that befits this great forum - you were moaning and bleating, like a little .......mong.

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I think the problem is that your basic premise e.g. we are signing crap like Pearce is wrong, and your methodology is suspect as analysis is based on specific signings and ignores others which would render the premise suspect!

 

Stating that the earth is wrong isn't a different opinion it is wrong! Stating Luis is leaving because we are signing shite like Pearce is not a different opinion, it is wrong.

 

I replied to you earlier around specific signings - it is actually you who is taking the leap of faith and using being " linked " to good players as a badge of honour.

 

I think you are being naïve to think that top quality players, who are wanted by more successful clubs ( presently anyway ) do not look at the signings made by their club, who finished 7th, before looking at their own future.

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I dont think its got anything to do with being foreign, more like a club in our position can only use the " give us one more year, we are building " argument so long before any player thinks that they may be wasting their career.

 

I disagree about that Suarez should be sold, but you are entitled to your opinion and i'm not going to call you a mong for it.

 

For clarity - If Suarez wants to go, fine, let him go and get a good price for him - but, if the club was showing signs of competing at the highest level, we may not have this problem as often as we do.

 

I don't think we are any closer to winning the league than we were in 2009 ( and there are lots of reason for that ) The players might think that too, what are we doing to convince them otherwise??

 

It is has everything to do with being foreign and not from Liverpool, thats why Carragher stayed here is whole career and other players do the same.

 

Anyway i dont really care about that, he can go if he wants to.

 

Personally i would have sold him even if he didnt want to go, but only for 50 million+

 

The reason i've been saying that is because we need a team not an individual, and we need quality in other places and selling him for 50 million would allow us to move forward as a club and it gives us the chance to make the whole squad stronger

 

Plenty of players in the world can score goals, and we shouldnt cry our eyes out thinking Suarez is the only one.

 

In Rodgers system, we create plenty of chances and there are plenty of players in the world capable of putting them away

 

I always thought Suarez was damn greedy at times too

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But you are a mong , and you weren't debating in a fashion that befits this great forum - you were moaning and bleating, like a little .......mong.

 

what, like having the cheek to have a different opinion - How you can debate with someone who just posts "mong"

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I replied to you earlier around specific signings - it is actually you who is taking the leap of faith and using being " linked " to good players as a badge of honour.

 

I think you are being naïve to think that top quality players, who are wanted by more successful clubs ( presently anyway ) do not look at the signings made by their club, who finished 7th, before looking at their own future.

 

The transfer window hasn't fucking opened yet, so instead of soiling your pants about Alex Pearce (who we aren't signing btw) why don't you just shut the fuck up and wait and see what happens.

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what, like having the cheek to have a different opinion - How you can debate with someone who just posts "mong"

 

Saying "no wonder Suarez is leaving if we're only signing Alex Pearce and Kolo Toure" is not having an opinion, it's called being a fucking retard.

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When fifa 13 first came out the first thing I did was sell Suarez for £50m and buy Higuain and Huntelaar, worked a treat so we should probably do that.

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It is has everything to do with being foreign and not from Liverpool, thats why Carragher stayed here is whole career and other players do the same.

 

Anyway i dont really care about that, he can go if he wants to.

 

Personally i would have sold him even if he didnt want to go, but only for 50 million+

 

The reason i've been saying that is because we need a team not an individual, and we need quality in other places and selling him for 50 million would allow us to move forward as a club and it gives us the chance to make the whole squad stronger

 

Plenty of players in the world can score goals, and we shouldnt cry our eyes out thinking Suarez is the only one.

 

In Rodgers system, we create plenty of chances and there are plenty of players in the world capable of putting them away

 

I always thought Suarez was damn greedy at times too

 

you may be right, and only time will tell whether we do, or are allowed to invest the money wisely ( i.e whether Rodgers gets his hands on all of the money and buys the right players )

 

I'm just of the opinion that any team that finishes 7th. with Suarez will be weaker without him. It is easier to sell top players and continue successfully from a position of strength, as we have in the past. We don't have that now.

 

We are a club that needs to build, but its hard to build when you keep on losing your better players. It just starts the cycle again

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This is the type of thing I'd like to see happen:

 

OK let's say we get £50 million for Suarez, £15 million for Carroll, £3 million for Spearing, £2 million for Coates, £10 million for Reina and £20 million which we usually get from the owners each summer. That's £100 million, without mentioning Skrtel who appears to be off and maybe Downing.

 

I'd try to get:

 

- Ter Stegen to replace Reina for £15 million.

- Wanayma to compete with Lucas for £15 million.

- Draxler to play wide (or Mertens) for £17 million.

- Aspas for £7 million.

- Papadopoulosfor £12 million.

- Benteke (as I doubt Chelsea would sell Lukaku to us) for £20 million.

- Carlos Alberto for £10 million (doubt he'd cost that much, just being conservative).

- Toure obviously signed for free.

 

The above is an example, but shows that there are plenty of other alternatives. But I think we'd be a much stronger squad and a better team as whole.

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Saying "no wonder Suarez is leaving if we're only signing Alex Pearce and Kolo Toure" is not having an opinion, it's called being a fucking retard.

 

So a world class player shouldn't expect their club, who says that they are in the business of winning trophies to sign players of a comparable quality in order to progress towards winning the trophies. We have signed one ( in my opinion ) Coutinho ( potentially anyway ) who may be good enough.

 

But that's ok - you are entitled to your opinion

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I replied to you earlier around specific signings - it is actually you who is taking the leap of faith and using being " linked " to good players as a badge of honour.

 

I think you are being naïve to think that top quality players, who are wanted by more successful clubs ( presently anyway ) do not look at the signings made by their club, who finished 7th, before looking at their own future.

 

This is your post earlier!

 

He's a tit isn't he. Put aside that we might be buying this shite( and no wonder Suarez wants out ) but can you imagine any CEO worth his salt to allow himself to be photographed with a potential signing? It should all be secret but not with this fame hungry cunt.

 

So Suarez says to Rodgers

" who are we buying boss "

Well - Kolo Toure - cheap free transfer

Aspas - relagation side so cheap buyout clause

Alex Pearce - out of contract and cheap

 

No wonder his head is in fucking Madrid

 

So again, you clearly stated we are buying Pearce despite him not signing and only being linked. My point was that you ignored other players that were linked, not at any stage did I say they were signing - I clearly pointed out the flaw in your original statement was that you picked players linked who suited your negative perspective and ignored others.

 

Which you are still doing by stating as negative the argument that good players will come. The two posts above seem to be saying - we are linked with/buying shite which is why Luis is leaving, but we won't get anyone good anyway cos we are not good enough.

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I'd love higuian not just because he's amazing but because when I typed his name in just then my ipad turned it to highlander.

 

He wouldn't join us we lack the ambition and ability to pay him trillions of pounds a week, if a deal could be done with Suarez for higuian and he'd be happy then I'd be for it in a heart beat.

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Rather have michu than benteke, the belgian Emile Heskey

 

I agree with you actually.

 

Michu can play as a number 9 or number 10.

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So a world class player shouldn't expect their club, who says that they are in the business of winning trophies to sign players of a comparable quality in order to progress towards winning the trophies. We have signed one ( in my opinion ) Coutinho ( potentially anyway ) who may be good enough.

 

But that's ok - you are entitled to your opinion

 

The transfer window isn't even open yet, the season has been over for less than a fortnight. Don't let that stop you cutting your wrists though, no seriously.

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This is your post earlier!

 

 

 

So again, you clearly stated we are buying Pearce despite him not signing and only being linked. My point was that you ignored other players that were linked, not at any stage did I say they were signing - I clearly pointed out the flaw in your original statement was that you picked players linked who suited your negative perspective and ignored others.

 

Which you are still doing by stating as negative the argument that good players will come. The two posts above seem to be saying - we are linked with/buying shite which is why Luis is leaving, but we won't get anyone good anyway cos we are not good enough.

 

You conveniently chose to ignore my reply to your " leap of faith" post. Like ive said, you are entitled to have an opinion different to mine.

 

My perspective is that to finish higher than 7th, we need better players as over a 38 game season, the League doesn't lie. We may well sign all the good players you mention, we may well not - We may even sign Pearce, however it will be harder to progress if we sell our best player(s)

 

I'm sure players look at ambition of clubs, we have an opportunity with 4 of the teams who finished above us having new managers to take the bull by the horns.

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Higuain is one of those players that's been around for years, and despite watching Madrid a hundred times in recent years I can't ever recall him really standing out, which is ridiculous considering his scoring record.

 

For such a high profile player, I doubt I'd recognise him in the street.

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I think Sturridge is a better option for us than Higuain! Our problem is goals from the wide areas, two player's who can score more than 10 from the wide areas and a number 10 who can do the same are what we need. Not sure a goal scorer is.

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The transfer window isn't even open yet, the season has been over for less than a fortnight. Don't let that stop you cutting your wrists though, no seriously.

 

Tell you what....I'll wait for you to let me know when it is acceptable to debate comings and goings at LFC.

 

Now run along, don't forget now

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