Aston Villa (H) – Sat 11th Dec 2021 (3:00pm)

[Red Shift]

22 minutes ago, Turkish Delight said:

Villa played similar to last season but without as much attacking threat (probably due to us having better players on the pitch).

 

Gerrard set them up how Hodgson/Allardyce/Pulis/Bruce have consistently set teams up at Anfield down the years. Tough to play through and hoping to nick something off a set piece.

 

Unless he makes them more progressive in time then I don't want to see him in the Liverpool job any more than those. Love the fella but if he ever gets our job it needs to be because there's something in his teams that makes it look like he could replicate it here.

Gotta have the players to do that. He’s doing what he can with what he’s got. Don’t forget Klopp inherited a Title challenging squad, and got funds to improve it.

[m0e]

I see we've got yet aother case of a team being shit while playing against us having nothing to do with us.

 

Must be something in the Anfield air.

[aRdja]

9 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Gotta have the players to do that. He’s doing what he can with what he’s got. Don’t forget Klopp inherited a Title challenging squad, and got funds to improve it.

This a gag?

[Red Shift]

2 minutes ago, aRdja said:

This a gag?

Unless of course I’m under estimating the Suarez / Gerard contribution? Both players left before Klopp arrival.

[m0e]

17 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Gotta have the players to do that. He’s doing what he can with what he’s got. Don’t forget Klopp inherited a Title challenging squad, and got funds to improve it.

 

[aRdja]

3 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Unless of course I’m under estimating the Suarez / Gerard contribution? Both players left before Klopp arrival.

And Sterling too, therefore it was no longer a title challenging squad IMO.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The woman who normally sits next to me wasn't there today. She usually amuses me with how angry she gets at the referee; whoever it is, he's always the worst of the lot - biased and crap.

 

Thank fuck she wasn't there to see that today.

[Leyton388]

Stevie at full time today. 

 

 

[Code]

23 minutes ago, aRdja said:

This a gag?

This is the team Klopp inherited.

 

Finished 6th the season before and was in 10th when Rodgers got sacked.

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

35 minutes ago, Red Shift said:

Gotta have the players to do that. He’s doing what he can with what he’s got. Don’t forget Klopp inherited a Title challenging squad, and got funds to improve it.

 

[Harry Squatter]

 

 

[torahboy]

3 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

 

 

Pancake's aged.

[Harry Squatter]

9 minutes ago, torahboy said:

Pancake's aged.

It's Steven French

[TheHowieLama]

13 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

 

 

Good player the old man. Heck of a family 5 a side sitting around the Christmas table in that house.

[LFC 6 Times]

Gerrard managed a side today against the best team in the world, away from home in Anfield. His team gave us a cagey uncomfortable game, I wouldn’t draw too many conclusions from today’s game other than Mo Salah remains the best player in the world.

[Anubis]

1 minute ago, Harry Squatter said:

It's Steven French

Nah, Steven French would be hid, mostly submerged, in a pond in Sefton Park.

[Harry Squatter]

2 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Nah, Steven French would be hid, mostly submerged, in a pond in Sefton Park.

Letting out a primeval roar. Russ. 

[johnsusername]

People talking about Villa like they're some lower league fodder like Kidderminster Harriers or Marine with a brave back's to the wall job. 

[TheHowieLama]

Villa have 19 points off 16 games, they are a bit shit.

[dockers_strike]

1 hour ago, Turkish Delight said:

Villa played similar to last season but without as much attacking threat (probably due to us having better players on the pitch).

 

Gerrard set them up how Hodgson/Allardyce/Pulis/Bruce have consistently set teams up at Anfield down the years. Tough to play through and hoping to nick something off a set piece.

 

Unless he makes them more progressive in time then I don't want to see him in the Liverpool job any more than those. Love the fella but if he ever gets our job it needs to be because there's something in his teams that makes it look like he could replicate it here.

Absolutely bizarre reasoning.

 

He took over a team that had suffered 5 consecutive defeats under Smith plus, another 2 since the season started and in the 4 games he's been in charge off before today, had won 3 and lost 1, which was to city by 1 goal in 3.

 

But, he's expected to have the same players suddenly playing like they're a top, attacking team and come to the home of arguably the best team in Europe, if not the planet and go toe to toe because he's Steven Gerrard, who's big and fucking hard?!

 

[Turkish Delight]

1 hour ago, Red Shift said:

Gotta have the players to do that. He’s doing what he can with what he’s got. Don’t forget Klopp inherited a Title challenging squad, and got funds to improve it.

You also have to have a clear tactical plan to play that way and the knowledge to coach it as well as having the players.

 

Klopp inherited a team that was a bit better than this Villa one but miles off title challengers. He got the funds through his sales but he stamped his way of playing on it early.

 

There's been many managers who've stabilised teams through making them hard to beat and failed by taking the same style to bigger jobs.

[Turkish Delight]

3 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Absolutely bizarre reasoning.

 

He took over a team that had suffered 5 consecutive defeats under Smith plus, another 2 since the season started and in the 4 games he's been in charge off before today, had won 3 and lost 1, which was to city by 1 goal in 3.

 

But, he's expected to have the same players suddenly playing like they're a top, attacking team and come to the home of arguably the best team in Europe, if not the planet and go toe to toe because he's Steven Gerrard, who's big and fucking hard?!

 

I'm not saying he should have gone toe to toe but anyone trying to make out he's suddenly a top manager by playing that way is kidding themselves. It's a blueprint many have played before. Several of them took it to big jobs and failed for it.

 

Unless he can demonstrate he can manage a progressive attacking style elsewhere that can play further up the pitch (at Villa or somewhere else) then he should be nowhere near our job.

[dockers_strike]

Just now, Turkish Delight said:

I'm not saying he should have gone toe to toe but anyone trying to make out he's suddenly a top manager by playing that way is kidding themselves. It's a blueprint many have played before. Several of them took it to big jobs and failed for it.

 

Unless he can demonstrate he can manage a progressive attacking style elsewhere that can play further up the pitch (at Villa or somewhere else) then he should be nowhere near our job.

I dont see anyone making out he's a top manager except those saying if people think he's a top manager they're kidding themselves.

 

He's the makings of a very good manager, whether that's absolute tops or not, time will tell.

 

People comparing him to Klopp at this stage of his career are the ones doing the kidding. The comparison is closer to Klopp getting Mainz promoted to the Bundesliga not Klopp with Dortmund challenging Bayern's supremacy.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Whatever happens, this will always command respect.

 

 

[Turkish Delight]

4 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

I dont see anyone making out he's a top manager except those saying if people think he's a top manager they're kidding themselves.

 

He's the makings of a very good manager, whether that's absolute tops or not, time will tell.

 

People comparing him to Klopp at this stage of his career are the ones doing the kidding. The comparison is closer to Klopp getting Mainz promoted to the Bundesliga not Klopp with Dortmund challenging Bayern's supremacy.

He may or may not make a very good manager and time will tell. His tactical philosophy needs to have a clear identity that's aligned with something that would challenge in a competitive league before he's ready to make that leap in my opinion. That's very unclear right now.

 

When we recruit our next one it needs to be the best choice available. I think I'm just nervous that we'll make the sentimental choice because of the momentum behind it instead.