Halsey: Referee standards have dropped to alarming levels

[aws]

2 minutes ago, Carra_is_legend said:

 

100% agree. The referees are over complicating things by thinking I am going to let the game flow, I am not going to book anyone easily in the first 10 or 15 mins or whatever but the result of that is injury like this. If they book for the right foul, regardless of whether its in the 1st min or 90th min then the injuries will reduce drastically.

Which is probably why Jurgen was so pissed off with the ref.  It’s not so much the individual mistakes but the abdication of control. 

[Pete]

They’re all shit

[The wanderer]

3 hours ago, Carra_is_legend said:

 

100% agree. The referees are over complicating things by thinking I am going to let the game flow, I am not going to book anyone easily in the first 10 or 15 mins or whatever but the result of that is injury like this. If they book for the right foul, regardless of whether its in the 1st min or 90th min then the injuries will reduce drastically.

Thats a change from the old method of an early booking to let the players know who is in charge.

[Carra_is_legend]

If Endo was deemed as offside then Varane should have been offside as well. He did exactly the same thing against Forest yesterday.

[Jose Jones]

9 minutes ago, Carra_is_legend said:

If Endo was deemed as offside then Varane should have been offside as well. He did exactly the same thing against Forest yesterday.

Howard Webb will probably say that they listened to people saying our goal shouldn’t have been disallowed so have changed the interpretation. 

[The wanderer]

2 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

Howard Webb will probably say that they listened to people saying our goal shouldn’t have been disallowed so have changed the interpretation. 

In fairness  Virgil’s shouldn’t have been disallowed . But they will excuse last nights call with some other obscure reason. Has anyone in the media mentioned it? 

[The wanderer]

28 minutes ago, The wanderer said:

In fairness  Virgil’s shouldn’t have been disallowed . But they will excuse last nights call with some other obscure reason. Has anyone in the media mentioned it? 

Just seen a pic it’s almost identical - fuckin joke

[Barrington Womble]

38 minutes ago, The wanderer said:

In fairness  Virgil’s shouldn’t have been disallowed . But they will excuse last nights call with some other obscure reason. Has anyone in the media mentioned it? 

 

It's just been on SSN, they didn't say much beyond there was a var review and varane wasn't classed as interfering while blocking from an offside position. 

[DaveT]

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2024/02/explained-why-man-united-winner-stood-but-virgil-van-dijk-offside-goal-didnt/
 

Not seen any footage myself, but this feels like another of those contortionist tricks, trying to rationalise away yet another glaring inconsistency….. involving the same ref, days apart. ‘Dropping zone’, wtf?!

[Carra_is_legend]

1 minute ago, DaveT said:

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2024/02/explained-why-man-united-winner-stood-but-virgil-van-dijk-offside-goal-didnt/
 

Not seen any footage myself, but this feels like another of those contortionist tricks, trying to rationalise away yet another glaring inconsistency….. involving the same ref, days apart. ‘Dropping zone’, wtf?!

 

Hahahaha so are they saying that since Fernandes rat dropped the free kick low (or just a shit freekick), its not a foul and therefore not offside? 

[Code]

But more importantly, how is a manc allowed to referee the mancs?

[DaveT]

1 minute ago, Code said:

But more importantly, how is a manc allowed to referee the mancs?

Guess who reffed City on Tuesday? That’s right, Anthony Taylor 

[DaveT]

2 minutes ago, Code said:

But more importantly, how is a manc allowed to referee the mancs?

Peter Bankes is a confessed Everton supporter. Guess how many times he’s reffed Everton or Liverpool? Correct - zero. (Which is as it should be). 

[Code]

Liverpool need to invest in a referee academy. 

[Barrington Womble]

33 minutes ago, Code said:

But more importantly, how is a manc allowed to referee the mancs?

It happens all the time. It's a fucking joke and I can't quite understand why the question doesn't get asked about

 

1. Why are there so many manc referees, what does the rest of the country not do to get their refs on the elite professional ladder?

2. Why there seems to be certain rules about geography applied to some regions and not others? 

[Carra_is_legend]

24 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

It happens all the time. It's a fucking joke and I can't quite understand why the question doesn't get asked about

 

1. Why are there so many manc referees, what does the rest of the country not do to get their refs on the elite professional ladder?

2. Why there seems to be certain rules about geography applied to some regions and not others? 

Exactly. It is astounding why this is not being questioned? No questions were raised when some of these twats went to Abu Dhabi either. 

 

It doesn't matter if a referee does not support any team in that region, there is a very high probability that a few of their family members do support them. I think someone said Tierney's brother is a City fan and yet he officiates in their games. Its fucking scandalous. Imagine the "advise" he will be having from his City supporting brother when he is the ref in our game v City.

[joe_fishfish]

I don’t really care about where an individual ref is from but when there’s fucking loads of them from one region and hardly any from other places it does kind of imply something is dodgy in the way they are selected. 

[Barrington Womble]

7 minutes ago, joe_fishfish said:

I don’t really care about where an individual ref is from but when there’s fucking loads of them from one region and hardly any from other places it does kind of imply something is dodgy in the way they are selected. 

It's fine if it doesn't matter where someone is from providing that is shared fairly through all teams and regions. Having different rules for different regions seems fucked up. 

[DaveT]

1 hour ago, Carra_is_legend said:

Exactly. It is astounding why this is not being questioned? No questions were raised when some of these twats went to Abu Dhabi either. 

 

It doesn't matter if a referee does not support any team in that region, there is a very high probability that a few of their family members do support them. I think someone said Tierney's brother is a City fan and yet he officiates in their games. Its fucking scandalous. Imagine the "advise" he will be having from his City supporting brother when he is the ref in our game v City.

In a normal world, a normal organisation would avoid this scenario if only for the sake of appearances. But Webb, and Riley before him, have the attitude of ‘we’re PGMOL, we do what we want’. There’s zero accountability. 

[The wanderer]

11 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

It's fine if it doesn't matter where someone is from providing that is shared fairly through all teams and regions. Having different rules for different regions seems fucked up. 

There are 23 EPL refs apparently. I reckon we have had maybe half ref our games . We seem to have a core of 6 or 7 that are pushed our way and 3 or 4 of them have manc connections.

[VladimirIlyich]

Bring back Clive Thomas and Trelford Mills! The latter is deceased but would probably still do a good job compared to today's clowns.

[Barrington Womble]

8 hours ago, The wanderer said:

There are 23 EPL refs apparently. I reckon we have had maybe half ref our games . We seem to have a core of 6 or 7 that are pushed our way and 3 or 4 of them have manc connections.

And if they're not ref, they're on VAR. 

[Anubis]

[No2]

18 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Jurgen won't be happy with the 9 o'clock start.

[an tha]

Amazing Coote as ref and Tierney on VAR.

 

They aren't even trying to hide it now.