Man Utd (A) 20/10/19 - Premier League

[Oh Buoy]

8 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

A day on, Atkinson's performance rankles even more. It was Ferguson-era stuff - we were blown up whenever anything approaching contact was made, breaking up our rhythm all the time. Beyond blatant.

 

Doesn't excuse an awful performance by ourselves for 70 minutes, but it was a depressing return to the past in terms of officiating. Hope the club makes plenty of noise about it in the build-up to the return fixture.

I'd love to have the return of Penopool. 

[aws]

16 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

A day on, Atkinson's performance rankles even more. It was Ferguson-era stuff - we were blown up whenever anything approaching contact was made, breaking up our rhythm all the time. Beyond blatant.

 

Doesn't excuse an awful performance by ourselves for 70 minutes, but it was a depressing return to the past in terms of officiating. Hope the club makes plenty of noise about it in the build-up to the return fixture.

Agree with this. I noticed quite a few times that we were holding back from challenges fearing a free kick while they were able to fly in and win the 50/50 challenges riskfree. As they tired after 70 minutes we were able to take control as the free kicks dried up.  

[aws]

Isn't Shaq still injured? 

[Butch]

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

26 minutes ago, Istvan Kosma said:

not a clue, just thought klopp hates him

Yeah, Clyne should have started too.

[TheHowieLama]

Shaq still out with calf problem no?

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

9 minutes ago, Istvan Kosma said:

Ok.. I don't rate Origi is that ok with you? and I find the lack of games Shaq gets a bit odd too... but next time I'll ask for your permission... 

 

Nor was I aware he is still injured

Merely an attempt at humour obviously not that funny. Apologies.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

15 minutes ago, Istvan Kosma said:

It's ok I've had a shit morning. Angry head on, so anyway a point out of the shitness of Castle grayskull not too bad considering the performance we gave... 

I would have taken our points tally at the start of the season. Horrible horrible place to go, fucking mutants.

[Baltar]

Still annoyed by what happened yesterday but fuck it now, move on and win the next one. OT is just a shit place for us to go no matter how godawful United are playing. Just consider this one game a write-off and get back to normal for the next match and restart our winning sequence.

 

[Butch]

[INTORRESTING]

The ref was shit, but we all know they are shit and these things happen.  We get plenty going our way too.

 

The issues in that game were mostly psychological in my opinion. Utd and Everton are absolutely shite and we should be getting 12 points in these games.  However, years and years of derby matches tell us that form means nothing.

 

Utd had a plan and a large chunk of the press  say it worked.  I am not so sure it did to the extent these people are banging on about it.  Trent and Robbo had untold crosses, Ox was wasteful a couple of times (good overall though), bobby and Gini should have done better - it looked like we froze - I am not sure if that is down to the occassion/tiredness or a mixture of both.  However, good cameos from Ox, Lallana and Keita will hopefully allow the likes of Robbo, Henderson to have a rest.

 

We can't win them all, I think we would have lost this one in the past and a point at OT isn't a bad reset.  I am glad the winning run stat can be put to bed - stats spanning seasons are shite and should be binned off.  I felt we had a few resets last year that didn't affect us (losses in the cups) and let's hope this one becomes a positive.   

 

Teams are starting to think that even if we go behind, we will draw or win.   We need other teams to know they have already lost  - that's what the great Taggart sides had and what we had in the 70s and 80s.  We are not too far off that and the improvement is quite remarkable.

 

Let's make sure we kill them at our place!

 

 

[Anubis]

2 hours ago, rb14 said:

They and their supporters will be fucking rocking. 

On the contrary, I turned it on at full time and their fans had emptied quicker than a bucket with no bottom, and all you could hear was YNWA ringing around OT.

[TheHowieLama]

13 minutes ago, INTORRESTING said:

Trent and Robbo had untold crosses

If there is anyplace we can improve it is here -- most of these were absolute cack. I know both have been great but the majority yesterday that didn't hit the first man were just aimless/hopeful. If we could add the type of chances City creates time after time -- the cut back played on the ground - it would help.

[Jenson]

Still gutted over Ox's overhit pass to Trent in the last minute of injury time. If he'd got it right Trent had an easy square ball across for Bobby/Sadio to tap in the winner. Frustrating doesn't come close to describing yesterday's game.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

3 minutes ago, Jenson said:

Still gutted over Ox's overhit pass to Trent in the last minute of injury time. If he'd got it right Trent had an easy square ball across for Bobby/Sadio to tap in the winner. Frustrating doesn't come close to describing yesterday's game.

 

Yep, I thought we were going to grab a late winner. Also the ball that dropped to big Virg at the back post, it was just slightly behind him, otherwise he had a clear shot on goal or the chance to drive it back into the mix. I was literally shocked that Atkinson let us take that last corner. 

[El Rojo]

If we'd gotten a penalty in injury time yesterday, Atkinson would have blown up just as our taker made contact.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 minute ago, El Rojo said:

If we'd gotten a penalty in injury time yesterday, Atkinson would have blown up just as our taker made contact.

 

No chance, it wouldn't have got past VAR. 

[Grinch]

One injury turned our team to utter shit which was entirely predictable since everyone with working eyes knows Origi doesn't fit. 

[3 Stacks]

1 minute ago, Grinch said:

One injury turned our team to utter shit which was entirely predictable since everyone with working eyes knows Origi doesn't fit. 

Salah has been awful at Old Trafford. He's made absolutely no difference there and he wouldn't have yesterday either unless he could have by himself stopped 3/4's of the starting eleven from shitting themselves on the ball.

[TheHowieLama]

Ridiculous how Atkinson handled the two James situations - the first stopping play for what was obviously not a head injury - the second letting play continue after what was certainly a head injury.

Also, no question the lad was concussed again -- so twice in two weeks they have let him play on.

[3 Stacks]

James is absolute vermin. Just launches himself into people and pretends it's the defender's fault when he gets ragdolled. Does this every game I've seen him in. And then the commentators pretend he's Hazard or Messi drawing fouls. Mind bottling.  

[RobbieOR]

27 minutes ago, Grinch said:

One injury turned our team to utter shit which was entirely predictable since everyone with working eyes knows Origi doesn't fit. 

 

Anyone with working eyes has seen that the same player who came in won us games last year and the backups have provided depth over the past 18 months too

[magicrat]

The Mancs crumbled after we levelled and just a pity we didn't have another 5 or 10 minutes to finish the job.

Yes we were poor and let the crowd and the occasion unsettle us but for all the noise about Utd Alisson had little to do of any note . They got a fortuitous break with their goal and roared on by the rabid dogs ran for their lives. Seen it many times where the underdogs grab a lead and double their effort to defend it. We had some decent chances which went begging despite our poor display. VAR has been kind to us so far this season and it was unfortunate we got the shitty end of the stick yesterday against our fiercest rivals. Fuck it anyway we were bound to drop points at some point.

[El Rojo]

From a City fan on Twitter:

 

'Liverpool have dropped points in 9 of the last 47 games (19%). Atkinson has reffed them 9 times in that time, dropping points 4 times (44.4%). City have dropped points in 15 of the last 85 games (17.64%). Atkinson has reffed us [CITY] 7 times, dropping points 4 times (57.14%). '

 

From the Echo:

 

'According to the referee, United didn’t commit any fouls between the 22nd and 72nd minutes.'

[KMD7]

13 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

From a City fan on Twitter:

 

'Liverpool have dropped points in 9 of the last 47 games (19%). Atkinson has reffed them 9 times in that time, dropping points 4 times (44.4%). City have dropped points in 15 of the last 85 games (17.64%). Atkinson has reffed us [CITY] 7 times, dropping points 4 times (57.14%). '

 

From the Echo:

 

'According to the referee, United didn’t commit any fouls between the 22nd and 72nd minutes.'

Damning stats those