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Transgender stuff - what's going on?


Gym Beglin
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12 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

She’s an absolute nutcase and was rightly removed from the piece.  Removing her from the piece made absolutely no difference to it.  
 

Although the rape and death threats continue for everyone else on the other side of the debate.  No comment on that?  

I'm not forging a one person crusade, though obviously any death threats from either extreme are obviously out of order.

 

It's a shame really we have to deal with the extreme's in the first place.

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6 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

I'm not forging a one person crusade, though obviously any death threats from either extreme are obviously out of order.

 

It's a shame really we have to deal with the extreme's in the first place.

Would you say pressuring gay women to have sex with trans men is extreme? Or campaigning for the removal of the requirement to tell a woman that you are a biological man and not a women? 

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1 hour ago, CapeRed said:

I do believe ,and cannot say it is true, that you can reduce the size with a surgery technique known as shaving. Few guys in Thailand using that guideline discovered meat and 2 veg later in the evening.

Good grief, a mate of mine who used to be on here and a frequent visitor to Thailand said something about the little finger? This was after noticing a particular woman behind the bar, though she did have legs like Mark Hughes. 

Thanks for that, I'll bin that guideline. 

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4 minutes ago, Pidge said:

Link?

 

https://osr.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/publication/assessment-of-compliance-with-the-code-of-practice-for-statistics-2021-census-in-england-and-wales/

 

It's one of 7 requirements that are holding it up, blaming trans people is a headline maker though.

 

Requirement 1 - ONS needs to clearly communicate how 2021 Census data may be impacted by COVID-19 and how it plans to address any unmet user needs.

 

Requirement 2 -  transparent, accessible and timely information on how it will provide UK population estimates for 2021 and UK Census data.

 

Requirement 3 - ONS should be open and transparent in publishing its plans to evaluate and mitigate any risk to data given the change in the sex question guidance during live Census collection operations.

 

Requirement 4 - ONS should ensure finalised documentation on quality, information and judgements on suitable data sources, and methods and their application are complete.

 

Requirement 5 - In order to ensure the relevance of data and statistics to users, ONS needs to continue to develop and enhance its user engagement activities, connecting with a broad range of users and embracing challenge.

 

Requirement 6 - ONS needs to continue its efforts to deliver timely, accessible and flexible Census outputs – while ensuring sufficient data quality and supporting appropriate use of the data – mitigating any risks to further delay to the release of Census data and statistics.

 

Requirement 7 - To best support Census data users, ONS needs to continue to improve its webpage navigation for current materials. ONS’s plans for a separate website or webpages for Census outputs themselves will require sufficient consideration of its navigation and accessibility. 

 

 

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The only real concern with Requirement 3 is that 

 

"ONS made a change to its guidance for the Census sex question during live Census collection operations and while it told us that it expects this to have minimal impact on the Census data, ONS needs to publish suitable evidence to support this."

 

 

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35 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

The only real concern with Requirement 3 is that 

 

"ONS made a change to its guidance for the Census sex question during live Census collection operations and while it told us that it expects this to have minimal impact on the Census data, ONS needs to publish suitable evidence to support this."

 

 

Yes, the only minor concern that the data on sex, which will drive policy, spending and forms the backbone of the census may be wrong.   Nothing to worry about at all. 

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TRAs have been outside JK Rowlings house and posted the pictures.  They are now crying because apparently they are the victims after doxxing her.  
 

All in the week when the head of stonewall couldn’t tell us what she’d done wrong and that people couldn’t change sex. 

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9 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

All in the week when the head of stonewall couldn’t tell us what she’d done wrong and that people couldn’t change sex. 

Sounded to me like she was trying to be diplomatic whereas the interviewer wanted to hear an accusation of transphobia. She also said that people couldn't change biological sex, that cis and trans bodies were not the same, but that sexual characteristics could be changed. I can't see a problem with this.

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4 minutes ago, mars said:

Sounded to me like she was trying to be diplomatic whereas the interviewer wanted to hear an accusation of transphobia. She also said that people couldn't change biological sex, that cis and trans bodies were not the same, but that sexual characteristics could be changed. I can't see a problem with this.

I’m with you, it was reasonable.  But about a million miles away from the received wisdom on the TRA side.  I also thought she was lying when she said she wasn’t close to the argument.  
 

Nothing on the doxxing though?  

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